Special teams this year are the best in Ferenz era
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Easy to cover punts that fly 30 yards in the air.
Or 2003, 2004, or any year with kaeding, Baker, Donahue. LeVar is cranking it up to compensate for a talent deficiency at punter. Past years some things were covered up because of talent at punter
More fakes than I can ever remember under KF. Punting has been well below average. One of the punters is even on scholarship. Nowhere near the best special teams under KF.
"Special teams this year are the best in Ferenz era."
That is a pretty bold statement, and I think some things are going well, but what are you really basing it on, kick coverage (two successful fake punts)? DogBoyRy already mentioned that punt coverage looks good on a 30 yard punt... (Please go back and look at Iowa's punts against PSU).
I think Our special teams were much better when we had Nate Kaeding kicking field goals... and Bob Sanders as a gunner on punts...
That is a pretty bold statement, and I think some things are going well, but what are you really basing it on, kick coverage (two successful fake punts)? DogBoyRy already mentioned that punt coverage looks good on a 30 yard punt... (Please go back and look at Iowa's punts against PSU).
I think Our special teams were much better when we had Nate Kaeding kicking field goals... and Bob Sanders as a gunner on punts...
Uhh, no.
Kick and punt coverage has been good.
Punting has been terrible.
Punt return hasn't been good, including some inexplicable fair catches well inside the 10.
And kick return is nothing to write home about.
A mixed bag of good, average, and poor performance. Sort of like the team as a whole.
Kick and punt coverage has been good.
Punting has been terrible.
Punt return hasn't been good, including some inexplicable fair catches well inside the 10.
And kick return is nothing to write home about.
A mixed bag of good, average, and poor performance. Sort of like the team as a whole.
Didn't KF bring in a coach, I mean consultant from the NFL that is a special teams guru? If I am not mistaken, he will be possibly be the 10th coach once that position is available.
I believe this gentleman and Coach Woods should be given credit for the special teams success with coverage and the fakes so far this season.
I believe this gentleman and Coach Woods should be given credit for the special teams success with coverage and the fakes so far this season.
I liked the call. You could tell we were going to do what we did the rest of the game all the way. Go for it there to start the game, you just got an onside kick (if I remember correctly), and you make this, you have all the momentum in the world and maybe Ill shuts down early. Don't convert, give them the ball five yards further than a touchback, and the defense is fine.
I would say kick off coverage has been outstanding. Punt coverage has been pretty good.
Punting itself, as been discussed at length, hasn't been great.
Kicking game has been really good.
Punting itself, as been discussed at length, hasn't been great.
Kicking game has been really good.
Yep special teams and defense have showed up . . . like they do most years under KF. Of course most years the offense plays like its in a Pop Warner league. That's the weak link and hopefully Brian had an epiphany after MSU and realized his father doesn't know jack about offense. When BF becomes head coach he will instantly be better than his dad if he demands more innovation from the offense.
They brought in a coach to act as an advisor for special teams, he has had a huge impact like Reid did with the linebackers when he was here. No way Woods is doing this let alone on his own.
Not really. We have a really solid kicker who has been solid on fgs and deep kicks. Punter stinks. No return game at this point that I have seen. We did do a great job twice catching Illinois napping on the fake punt and onside kick. We used to block kicks before....not so much any more.
I disagree.
With half the 2017 season complete, the starting kicker and punter stats are very comparable to the 2002 guys, as of now (which is what your statement implies). See below.
Is it likely that our 2017 guys finish the season maintaining this average? Well, that's anyone's guess. I'm an optimist, so I say yes.
2002 stats:
Nate Kaeding (kicker): PAT att/made = 57/58 (98%), FG att/made 21/24 (87.5%), long 55
I can't find his touchback percentages from college, but in the NFL in 2005, Nate averaged 61.5 yds/KO. Like Miguel, he was trying to kick most of them high and deep, most of his career, including college.
Nate won the Lou Groza award for the nation's best kicker that year
David Bradley (punter): 53 punts av 39.5 y/p, long 54
2017 stats:
Miguel Recinos (kicker): PAT = 20/20 (100%), FG 5/6 (83%), long 44, KO Touchbacks = 18/33 (54.5%), av 63.8 yds/KO
Colten Rastetter (punter): 25 punts av 39.7 y/p, long 53
(for this first link to work right, copy the first two lines as one selection, then paste into your browser)
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...xperience=&tabSeq=1&qualified=false&Submit=Go
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/david-bradley-player-stats
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/nate-kaeding-1.html
http://www.footballdb.com/college-football/players/miguel-recinos-recin0001
http://www.footballdb.com/college-football/players/colten-rastetter-raste0001
Kickoff distance = Great
Kickoff return = Average
Punting average = Bad
Punt Return = Below Average
Kickoff/Punt Coverage = Good
http://www.bigten.org/library/stats/fb-confldrs.html
Kickoff return = Average
Punting average = Bad
Punt Return = Below Average
Kickoff/Punt Coverage = Good
http://www.bigten.org/library/stats/fb-confldrs.html
I think the original post may have been influenced by the success of Riverboat Kirk in the IL game.
I have been very surprised and pleased with our placekicking. Lost field position in the punting game is something we're not used to, but it's an expectation this year. Our return game has this casual fan calling not fumbling a success. I have no delusions of breaking a big return.
I have been very surprised and pleased with our placekicking. Lost field position in the punting game is something we're not used to, but it's an expectation this year. Our return game has this casual fan calling not fumbling a success. I have no delusions of breaking a big return.
On kickoffs Kaeding wasn't trying to kick deep into the end zone for the touchback. He was excellent at kicking it off very high and having it land right around the goal line, forcing the return guy to bring it out against return coverage that was already way downfield and getting into the guy's face.
Ok. I guess a decade of playing in the league with lots of special teams snaps, and now a nice run as a D1 coach = no way could Woods do this.
Coaching is collaborative, with lots of voices going into game planning. However, Woods got the promotion to ST coordinator for a reason.
my suggestion, use your eye balls! our 53 yd punt this year traveled what, mayby 25 in the air?
The special teams' consultant (along with coach Woods) appear to have the special teams better prepared (and opposition scouted) than at any time during the KF era.
Execution (particularly punting execution) could be better...but a coach can only put guys in a position to succeed.
Sound better?
Execution (particularly punting execution) could be better...but a coach can only put guys in a position to succeed.
Sound better?
This. STs were a weapon that year. This year's have strengths and weaknesses. I wouldn't say they're bad overall, but don't give me anything like the confidence of that year.
Remember when we all cringed every time David Baker trotted out to punt? Kid sure did develop.
I have watched every single punt Colten has made, in person. Your response clearly reveals your ignorance, as that particular punt most certainly traveled more than 25 yards in the air. While, much to my regret, I can't find a recording of his 53 yard punt in the PSU game, I can assure you that it traveled at least 45 yards in the air. Perhaps @Blair Sanderson or @TomKakert could find a video of said punt.
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