Sports bettors....have you ever had your bets "limited" by an online sportsbook?

[HawkeyesAndCubs1023]

Background:

• I started betting sports online in 2021 in one of the legal states where there are 17-18 online sportsbook apps.
• My wife and I agreed to an amount for a starting bankroll. I took advantage of all sign-on promos to build the bankroll.
• I studied professional handicappers, and have since become a paying member of 4 different handicapping services for a wide range of bets (college football sides/totals, basketball (college/NBA) sides/totals, NBA/NFL player props, MLB strikeout props, and then NASCAR/Formula 1.
• For every dollar spent on a handicapping membership, I have made $6.40.
• I follow an extremely disciplined approach where I bet to win 1-1.5 units (1% of bankroll) on each recommended play.
• I work from home exclusively now, so it's very easy to get bets in when they are posted.
• I do not watch the games I bet on ... which almost makes it akin to the stock market.
• I have been profitable each month.

The problem:

• A number of sportsbooks (DraftKings and MGM being the worst offenders) have begun limiting the amount that I can wager on almost all markets, often times just 5-10% of a unit. They are always vague in their explanations.

Have any of you dealt with this? If so, have you been able to get the book(s) to remove the limit? I can still get most bets in on Caesar's (terrible mobile app) and FanDuel, but this is starting to eat into my profit margin, while making some bets almost impossible.

It seems to me like the sportsbooks don't want to say the quite part out loud, which is that they have zero interest in winning bettors, but instead want the degenerates who will lose far more than they win. Because the sharp bettor isn't breaking any rules and can't be kicked off of the site, they resort to these tactics.

It will be interesting to see how this market evolves. My guess is that the book has less of an advantage than they have enjoyed in the Vegas casinos over the years, as online betting allows bettors/handicappers with advanced degrees to crunch numbers at a computer and win 58-60% of the time.

 

[Derekd3408]

Background:

• I started betting sports online in 2021 in one of the legal states where there are 17-18 online sportsbook apps.
• My wife and I agreed to an amount for a starting bankroll. I took advantage of all sign-on promos to build the bankroll.
• I studied professional handicappers, and have since become a paying member of 4 different handicapping services for a wide range of bets (college football sides/totals, basketball (college/NBA) sides/totals, NBA/NFL player props, MLB strikeout props, and then NASCAR/Formula 1.
• For every dollar spent on a handicapping membership, I have made $6.40.
• I follow an extremely disciplined approach where I bet to win 1-1.5 units (1% of bankroll) on each recommended play.
• I work from home exclusively now, so it's very easy to get bets in when they are posted.
• I do not watch the games I bet on ... which almost makes it akin to the stock market.
• I have been profitable each month.

The problem:

• A number of sportsbooks (DraftKings and MGM being the worst offenders) have begun limiting the amount that I can wager on almost all markets, often times just 5-10% of a unit. They are always vague in their explanations.

Have any of you dealt with this? If so, have you been able to get the book(s) to remove the limit? I can still get most bets in on Caesar's (terrible mobile app) and FanDuel, but this is starting to eat into my profit margin, while making some bets almost impossible.

It seems to me like the sportsbooks don't want to say the quite part out loud, which is that they have zero interest in winning bettors, but instead want the degenerates who will lose far more than they win. Because the sharp bettor isn't breaking any rules and can't be kicked off of the site, they resort to these tactics.

It will be interesting to see how this market evolves. My guess is that the book has less of an advantage than they have enjoyed in the Vegas casinos over the years, as online betting allows bettors/handicappers with advanced degrees to crunch numbers at a computer and win 58-60% of the time.

How much are you betting and what type of bets are they limiting you on? Promotional bets almost always have a $50-100 limit on them. I've never had an issue making large bets with FanDual.

 

[HawkeyesAndCubs1023]

How much are you betting and what type of bets are they limiting you on? Promotional bets almost always have a $50-100 limit on them. I've never had an issue making large bets with FanDual.

I'm generally betting between $200-$400 per bet.

FanDuel an Caesar's give me no trouble. Wynn doesn't limit either, but they have very limited markets.

DraftKings, MGM, and Barstool have severely limited me.

 

[mnole03]

I imagine they get the handicap membership information and can quickly suss out who is betting based on it.

 

[Derekd3408]

I'm generally betting between $200-$400 per bet.

FanDuel an Caesar's give me no trouble. Wynn doesn't limit either, but they have very limited markets.

DraftKings, MGM, and Barstool have severely limited me.

Thats strange. I've used Barstool and DK and never had issues placing $1000+ bets. I haven't used either one in a while thought so maybe this is something new?

 

[HawkeyesAndCubs1023]

I imagine they get the handicap membership information and can quickly suss out who is betting based on it.

The groups that I am a part of do not provide this information. The books would have to be mining the data pretty heavily to see correlations of the same bets between different user accounts.

This is part of why I've tried to keep my betting pretty diverse in terms of different sports and types of bets. It didn't work unfortunately.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

I assume they will when I eventually hit that 16 game NFL parlay.

 

[gusto79]

I assume they will when I eventually hit that 16 game NFL parlay.

I saw something a few weeks ago about some guy hitting a big parlay, the sportsbook posting it on social media, and then they limited the guy. Pretty shitty to use it as marketing to make people think they'll win big on parlays, then limiting you if you actually do.

 

[NDallasRuss]

I certainly don't bet big enough, or win often enough, to have the books worry about me, but I have seen different instances (and based on twitter activity others notice it also) when in-game betting locks during a specific game. Like if the uncertainty is so high, or the betting gets so lop-sided, that they just lock the game from the in-game betting and keep it locked for the rest of the game. That's all I've got!

 

[onlyTheObvious]

I only bet a few dollars a week on football to make it interesting.

I really suck at college football. I would do a 4 team parlay on the heavy favorites moneyline and sure enough somebody would shut the bed every week.

Teasers were invented by the devil.

 

[CJ Beat Hard]

Do you post your bets in our degen thread?

 

[torbee]

Do you post your bets in our degen thread?

Yeah, or let's just turn this into a daily thread where you share your bets!

Always happy to trail someone smarter than me.

 

[hydro2.0]

Yeah, or let's just turn this into a daily thread where you share your bets!

Always happy to trail someone smarter than me.

Agreed I am in a slump. If homeboy is really making this ROI I want in

 

[torbee]

HELP US POORS @HawkeyesAndCubs1023 !!!!!

 

[ICWestfan]

I'm generally betting between $200-$400 per bet.

FanDuel an Caesar's give me no trouble. Wynn doesn't limit either, but they have very limited markets.

DraftKings, MGM, and Barstool have severely limited me.

They're restricting you on +100 to +150 bets? I can maybe see it if you are wagering 20K to 40K, but even then the books are pretty liberal in what they allow. That said most of these books will limit a player if they have proven success (you aren't breaking the bank, but....).

My advice is to move along or if you don't like the treatment reach out to them for a detailed explanation. SPeak to someone other than then the chat bot dude.

 

[hawkeyez]

No, but I've heard similar stories. Take a look at Circa. They're supposedly the best for not limiting sharps.

 

[Greenway4Prez]

That bet amount does not warrant being limited.

Could you split your bet up amongst the different books you use? (Even though this would be a pain in the arse).

 

[An Iowa fan]

I have never heard of anybody being limited on wagers using their app by any book.
I have not but maybe I don’t win enough.

 

[ICWestfan]

That bet amount does not warrant being limited.

Could you split your bet up amongst the different books you use? (Even though this would be a pain in the arse).

Yes he can. Always be shopping.

 

[MR BEEBS]

From what I have read, books will limit you if you are hitting a bunch of soft lines or alternate spreads. They also limit people who are winning consistently. MGM and Barstool are two of the biggest offenders. I have heard horror stories from PointsBet approving bets for less than the intended amount, and not letting you review before the bet gets placed. I don’t bet enough to get limited… yet.

 

[An Iowa fan]

From what I have read, books will limit you if you are hitting a bunch of soft lines or alternate spreads. They also limit people who are winning consistently. MGM and Barstool are two of the biggest offenders. I have heard horror stories from PointsBet approving bets for less than the intended amount, and not letting you review before the bet gets placed. I don’t bet enough to get limited… yet.

I only use the Caesars app. I really don’t want to be checking different apps. If I don’t like the line Caesars post , I don’t bet.

 

[unoHawkeye]

I wish… I lost my ass this weekend!

 

[DogBoyRy]

Background:

• I started betting sports online in 2021 in one of the legal states where there are 17-18 online sportsbook apps.
• My wife and I agreed to an amount for a starting bankroll. I took advantage of all sign-on promos to build the bankroll.
• I studied professional handicappers, and have since become a paying member of 4 different handicapping services for a wide range of bets (college football sides/totals, basketball (college/NBA) sides/totals, NBA/NFL player props, MLB strikeout props, and then NASCAR/Formula 1.
• For every dollar spent on a handicapping membership, I have made $6.40.
• I follow an extremely disciplined approach where I bet to win 1-1.5 units (1% of bankroll) on each recommended play.
• I work from home exclusively now, so it's very easy to get bets in when they are posted.
• I do not watch the games I bet on ... which almost makes it akin to the stock market.
• I have been profitable each month.

The problem:

• A number of sportsbooks (DraftKings and MGM being the worst offenders) have begun limiting the amount that I can wager on almost all markets, often times just 5-10% of a unit. They are always vague in their explanations.

Have any of you dealt with this? If so, have you been able to get the book(s) to remove the limit? I can still get most bets in on Caesar's (terrible mobile app) and FanDuel, but this is starting to eat into my profit margin, while making some bets almost impossible.

It seems to me like the sportsbooks don't want to say the quite part out loud, which is that they have zero interest in winning bettors, but instead want the degenerates who will lose far more than they win. Because the sharp bettor isn't breaking any rules and can't be kicked off of the site, they resort to these tactics.

It will be interesting to see how this market evolves. My guess is that the book has less of an advantage than they have enjoyed in the Vegas casinos over the years, as online betting allows bettors/handicappers with advanced degrees to crunch numbers at a computer and win 58-60% of the time.

Yes but they always end up clearing.

 

[HawkeyesAndCubs1023]

I only use the Caesars app. I really don’t want to be checking different apps. If I don’t like the line Caesars post , I don’t bet.

Caesars is good in terms of the number of markets they have available, but their mobile app is extremely clunky (perhaps intentionally), and when big money comes in on a line, they will juice the line within 60-90 seconds.

 

[torbee]

Caesars is good in terms of the number of markets they have available, but their mobile app is extremely clunky (perhaps intentionally), and when big money comes in on a line, they will juice the line within 60-90 seconds.

So what’s looking good tonight?

 

[seminoledq]

That bet amount does not warrant being limited.

Could you split your bet up amongst the different books you use? (Even though this would be a pain in the arse).

I agree with this. Even if you are winning at a 60% clip, betting $200-400/game is not worth limiting to someone. That's nothing to these sportsbooks. They're concerned with dimes, not dollars. I could see hem suspending an account though if they may suspect you are passing on knowledge to much larger betters.

 

[An Iowa fan]

Caesars is good in terms of the number of markets they have available, but their mobile app is extremely clunky (perhaps intentionally), and when big money comes in on a line, they will juice the line within 60-90 seconds.

I don’t know if the Caesars app is clunky or not because it is the only one I have used.
Caesars can move their lines anytime they want. They are like any business, they want to make money. A sportsbook basically puts out lines on “every” event but we don’t have to bet on every one. We can pick and choose. I don’t have a problem with a book moving a line to even the betting sides.

 

[Bank of Hawk]

These sites have enough data to easily categorize players and make business decisions based on that data.

 

[HawkeyesAndCubs1023]

I don’t know if the Caesars app is clunky or not because it is the only one I have used.
Caesars can move their lines anytime they want. They are like any business, they want to make money. A sportsbook basically puts out lines on “every” event but we don’t have to bet on every one. We can pick and choose. I don’t have a problem with a book moving a line to even the betting sides.

I have no problem with it either.

But I also seek out books who are a bit slower to juice the lines in response to taking big money on a certain side.

 

[AlisonNorth80y]

Hey, I'm new on this forum, but I wanted to chime in on your post. It's frustrating to hear that some online sportsbooks are limiting your bets, especially when you're following a disciplined approach and making a profit each month. I've heard of this happening to other sharp bettors as well, and it does seem like the sportsbooks are more interested in catering to the degenerates who will inevitably lose more than they win. Have you tried using 4rabet? I've personally had a great experience with their app and they offer a wide range of sports to bet on. Plus, they have some pretty sweet bonuses for new users. It's interesting to think about how the online betting market will evolve in the future. With advanced technology and data analysis, it's becoming easier for bettors to make informed decisions and win more often. Hopefully, the sportsbooks will eventually recognize the value in catering to sharp bettors like us.

 

[torbee]

Hey, I'm new on this forum, but I wanted to chime in on your post. It's frustrating to hear that some online sportsbooks are limiting your bets, especially when you're following a disciplined approach and making a profit each month. I've heard of this happening to other sharp bettors as well, and it does seem like the sportsbooks are more interested in catering to the degenerates who will inevitably lose more than they win.