He is on pace for 2816 yards 32 TDs and 4 interceptions and a 58% completion percentage with a YPA of 7.7 as a true sophomore who so far hasn't had the benefit of a good running game and whose OL has been a work in progress. Basically the only thing he hasn't done is hit a few deep balls. Really not much to complain about. Of course, there are always people that will complain about anything and everything. Also, he may be the best QB in the Big Ten West.
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Barrett may have been injured, but he played 11 games as a sophomore.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jt-barrett-1/gamelog/
Unreal. So he overthrew a couple in his first year starting and also fumbled a couple times. We also came back on the road at ISU and well PSU nobody could ever put on Stanley. Also we have had a very weak running game which is critical to a new QB and also some OL issues which are totally unexpected. I give Nate a solid A.
Uh, he has overthrew almost every long attempt, probably in the range of 8-10 passes. Absolutely no one is saying he sucks, he just needs to work on the long ball and put a little less powder in the canon. I would give him a B+ so far. He has all the tools to be something special that is for sure.
Fair points Kurt. I totally agree on the long passes. I just think people (not u) are being way over critical as we are talking about a true sophomore with a fairly anemic running game and OL issues. Hopefully he can get your B plus to an A!!
They didn't pull Stanley's redshirt last season. He was named the number 2 guy before the season started. The second team guy gets more work with the regular players in practice. If Stanley had redshirted last season, he would have been the scout team QB last year instead of studying on Iowa's offense. Its doubtful he would be the starter this year. Obviously the staff saw something they liked in him last year, and to this point, I see no reason to find fault with their assessment. Mansell looks like a solid prospect, and maybe we get Duggan or someone even better in the next couple of years. Stanley (soph), along with the 10 true freshmen who have played this season show recruits that they can win early playing time at Iowa. Hasn't that been one of the complaints from KF detractors for years that he doesn't play the young kids??????
The kid is trying to throw a pass 40-50 yards down field, trying to hit a target that's running full speed away from him, all in the span of 3-4 seconds in time. This isn't easy to do with no defenders on the field. now add 4-5 guys coming your way with bad intentions, guys running across your face and guys grabbing at your jersey and nipping at your heels... now go make the perfect pass 150 feet away that falls perfectly into your receivers arms...
Sure NS has had a few moments of youth, but he's gotten us in an out of the huddle, lined up, made some good calls, thrown some passes that you can't teach, like the TD pass to Easley vs Penn State after the int.
So far he gets an A from me..if he keeps up this td/int ratio he's going to take iowa football on a pretty fun journey. Don't stop believing.
Sure NS has had a few moments of youth, but he's gotten us in an out of the huddle, lined up, made some good calls, thrown some passes that you can't teach, like the TD pass to Easley vs Penn State after the int.
So far he gets an A from me..if he keeps up this td/int ratio he's going to take iowa football on a pretty fun journey. Don't stop believing.
And people will complain when he "regresses" next year, throwing 10 INTs, because the coaches want and allow him to take more risks commensurate with his experience.
to add to this last seasons offense was the Davis offense, but at the time nobody knew that Davis was going to retire
I have never noticed a receiver 'quit' on a route. I'll let all of you enlighten me on what I missed.
Wow, we must have negative yards rushing as substandard, subpar, and below average as we are. I haven't checked our record, but I'm assuming we are 0-6? You must be the 'guru' of this page as I'm sure the coaches are talking about 'training wheels', lol.
But, but, but our serviceable back up was a 4*. Dang,I’m conflicted. We’re the click bait sites wrong, or is the 3* yougin with oodles of TDS and only 2 picks just good.
Dolts.
Not at all. Just given Iowa's track record with blocking .... our "standard" just happens to be very high. I'm frankly very excited about the future upside of the Iowa O ... however, from what I've been observing from the team, the group is still a ways off from achieving the level of play that it is capable of developing toward. I believe that if the players really focus on the "little picture" and truly embrace the "improve every week" mantra ... I think that they really could exceed my expectations.
Think about it this way ... last year Iowa had two 1000 yard rushers and averaged around 172 rushing yards per game. Two years ago ... a year where we finished the regular season undefeated, we averaged around 182 rushing yards per game. This year, we are averaging only 139 yards per game. Right now that might not seem like a big difference, but given that Iowa still has to play some strong run defenses through the season ... that number really could continue to drift lower depending on how much improvement is demonstrated by the squad.
Then either you haven't watched closely enough or don't know what it means to "quit on a route". I won't name the receiver but he's done it twice.
Good illustration as to the youth in the offense. Little AW leaves big shoes to fill, as does the Meerkat but a almost everyone else returns. Don't forget the O tackles are freshmen, the center a junior and a starting guard is a junior. That's returning a lot of good players next year.
What is stupid is not understanding that since Nate Stanley did not redshirt last year, he will exhaust his eligibility if he starts for 3 years. There would be no option of an "extra year" unless we can get the NCAA to change its rules.
Part of the reason Stanley's TD total thru 6 games stands out is because opponents have decided to game plan to stop Iowa's run and force a young QB to beat them with a mostly unproven receiver group. Passing TD's up and rushing TD's way down so far in 2017. Is that sustainable in the 2nd half of the season against overall tougher opponents? I expect a more balanced # of TD's the rest of the way.
I would agree with that, but also think the o-line plays into that equation as well. We've been shuffling players up front all season long and the continuity that we are used to seeing just isn't there. Hoping Boone can come back after the bye and our 5 up front will be him, Jackson, Daniels, Welsh and Wirfs which I think would be our best lineup with Render and Reynolds serving as backups when needed. I believe we'll see an improved running game and more TDs on the ground when that group is on the field and gets rolling.
he did pass for TD's vs PSU. as a team Iowa has 16 passing TD's. last season they also had Daniels who had 10 TD'to go with Wadley 10 TD's and as a team they ended up with 21 as Mitchell had 1.
Daniels and Mitchell are both gone, this year Wadley has 4 rushing TD's and IKM has 2 and Butler has been out with a injury taking a valuable piece to the run game out of the picture.
Wadley also has 3 receiving TD's in 6 games vs the 3 he had is 13 games, Wadley has 483 yards rushing and 258 yards receiving thru 6 games vs the 315 yards receiving thru 13 games last season. giving him 741 total yard vs the 1396 yards he had last season.
Butler only had 36 carries before he was hurt. Stanley is very good QB and he is only going to get better.
I think he has played great.
WRs are below average and line hasnt played great and he has still played well. The one thing he needs to work on....knowing when to take off and get 5-8 yards.
He doesnt have to be a huge running threat but enough to pick up random first downs and non-negative plays.
WRs are below average and line hasnt played great and he has still played well. The one thing he needs to work on....knowing when to take off and get 5-8 yards.
He doesnt have to be a huge running threat but enough to pick up random first downs and non-negative plays.
so you have already judge these FR as being below avg, great judgement there COACH
Not the FR the unit as a whole right now.
I dont think you will find much disagreement with that statement.
Stanley is the starting QB at Iowa for the next 2 1/2 years, barring any unforeseen circumstances. Wiegers is a great backup to Stanley as well. Iowa is fortunate to have these two on the roster.
Nate is the best QB Iowa has had in a while. As a true Sophomore his TD - INT ratio is 7.5-1, and that's with playing some very good defenses. So he makes good decisions with the ball. He's tied for 8th in the country in TD passes; which tells me his arm can get us in the end zone. That's something we've had a lot of trouble doing for a while now. He's also had a number of dropped passes this year.
Stanley has a real NFL arm. No offense to all the QB's we've had the past two decades, who I love, but Stanley's arm is the best in the KF era hands down. Having that kind of arm isn't something you can teach. You either have that gift or you don't, and Stanley has it.
One thing I think that's underappreciated about Stanley is that he does have an ability to escape pressure. Not in the way most college QB's do by running away from it, but in the way you see good NFL QB's escape pressure. If you don't wrap Stanley up, he's going to get away. He isn't going down with an arm tackle like most QB's.
The list of positives about Stanley goes on and on. For some reason, fans are focusing on his deep ball accuracy; which will come with time. It's not like he's overthrowing receivers by 10 yards. He is literally within a yard or two of the receiver being able to make a play or it being a perfect strike on the majority of his deep ball overthrows.
Nate is the best QB Iowa has had in a while. As a true Sophomore his TD - INT ratio is 7.5-1, and that's with playing some very good defenses. So he makes good decisions with the ball. He's tied for 8th in the country in TD passes; which tells me his arm can get us in the end zone. That's something we've had a lot of trouble doing for a while now. He's also had a number of dropped passes this year.
Stanley has a real NFL arm. No offense to all the QB's we've had the past two decades, who I love, but Stanley's arm is the best in the KF era hands down. Having that kind of arm isn't something you can teach. You either have that gift or you don't, and Stanley has it.
One thing I think that's underappreciated about Stanley is that he does have an ability to escape pressure. Not in the way most college QB's do by running away from it, but in the way you see good NFL QB's escape pressure. If you don't wrap Stanley up, he's going to get away. He isn't going down with an arm tackle like most QB's.
The list of positives about Stanley goes on and on. For some reason, fans are focusing on his deep ball accuracy; which will come with time. It's not like he's overthrowing receivers by 10 yards. He is literally within a yard or two of the receiver being able to make a play or it being a perfect strike on the majority of his deep ball overthrows.
Nobody has said that. But we do want him to hit a pass longer than 16 yards. Seems like a sophomore in college should be able to do that.
He has several times, but more frequently would nice.
It is the only thing keeping him from having Heisman like numbers in his first year as a starter. He has been significantly better than anyone could have hoped...
I swear, if some of you had lived 2000 years ago, you’d of said something like this. “You know, Jesus, you really should do something about that hair.”
Yes. Guys who played 80 percent of their games in partly cloudy weather
(it's still to take one example of 40 years ago, it was bascially a different sport back then)
You may have been sarcastic - but you were still suggesting that I was being overly critical. I simply countered that I'm not really the one who created the standard from which Iowa's blocking is measured ... rather it's an internal thing.
As for my comment about training wheels ... it's clearly evident that O'Keefe is helping Stanley develop ... where the emphasis is more on managing the game and working within the framework of the O. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's great that Stanley has been focusing on keeping his eyes downfield and continuing to work through his progressions. However, as he gains more experience ... he'll be able to make his pre-snap and post-snap reads more quickly ... and he'll have a better grip on what will work and what will not work. Consequently, he'll be better able to get us into the "right play" and he'll also be more able to improvise if the need arises.
When Beathard was in his 2nd year on campus ... folks would "ooh and aah" about his long ball. However, against Wisconsin he had to come in and play due to an injury to Rudock. In that game, he threw way too many long balls ... and failed miserably to connect on most of them. Needless to say, his completion percentage that year was terrible.
Folks now "ooh and aah" about Stanley's big arm ... but now complain about him missing on long-ball opportunities. Some of this concern is fair ... because you have to be able to hit on at least some of those opportunities in order to keep Ds honest. However, as Ferentz often repeats ... hitting on the long ball is more of a "practice thing" rather than an ability thing. Should we be surprised at there being issues as it relates to connecting on the long ball?
I would argue that we shouldn't be surprised for the following reasons ....
- Stanley split reps with Wiegers before the season ... thus, while that pushed forward both of their respective developments ... it obviously could impact the chemistry/timing between the WRs and QBs.
- VandeBerg is Iowa's most experienced receiving threat ... but still missed all of the spring and was limited (to some degree) during fall camp. That will obviously impact the timing he'd have with Stanley.
- Iowa's most promising long-ball threat, ISM, has only been on campus since this summer. Thus, not only has ISM seen limited work with Stanley prior to the season .... he's a young guy who's also still learning the O.
- As many fans have pointed out - some of the long balls still may have been catchable the target would lay-out for the football.
He currently has a pass efficiency rating of 149.3, the highest rating in the last 14 years for an Iowa QB, outside of Stanzi's Senior year. He's currently ranked 34th in the country, and only 11 in front of him are the same year or younger, and only 2 have actually thrown more passes. For those really concerned with Stanley, I suggest they go watch some other teams around the country throw some passes. I even watched Rodgers overthrow a few receivers last weekend too. Brady threw a pick as well, overthrowing Hogan.
Now, as for the Dline having some issues, that's definitely open for discussion.
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