Start Freeman

[Mohawkeye]

We’ve seen enough. Definitely one of the top 5 players and the best interior defender by far. I don’t care whether you bench Patrick or Payton. I think Harding needs more minutes too, our offense runs better with him and he hasn’t proven to be a huge defensive liability.

Just a shit showing by our starters.

 

[RocknRollface]

The starting front line makes no sense given how many other better combinations are possible.

The most obvious starter on the entire team is Freeman.

 

[goodbyebobby]

The most obvious starter to sit is Patrick.

 

[Steamboat529529]

The most obvious starter to sit is Patrick.

Id say he’s the least obvious for obvious reasons. 🤦‍♂️

 

[RocknRollface]

The most obvious starter to sit is Patrick.

Obviously but that's not an option.

Maybe the new lady AD can intervene?

I don't think Fran would take it as well as Kirk.

 

[goodbyebobby]

Id say he’s the least obvious for obvious reasons. 🤦‍♂️

Lol, due to his last name? He's pretty much worthless on both ends of the court.

 

[kceasthawk]

The starting front line makes no sense given how many other better combinations are possible.

The most obvious starter on the entire team is Freeman.

Yea, they really got bubkas from Pmac today. He was almost invisible. You could certainly see Perkins, not that it was fun to watch. He had another of THOSE games again today.....

 

[goodbyebobby]

Obviously but that's not an option.

Maybe the new lady AD can intervene?

I don't think Fran would take it as well as Kirk.

Why is not an option? Dembele is a better option based on his frame alone, or Freeman.

Either are better options.

 

[RocknRollface]

Yea, they really got bubkas from Pmac today. He was almost invisible. You could certainly see Perkins, not that it was fun to watch. He had another of THOSE games again today.....

Honestly Perkins probably shouldn't be starting either until he accepts what the limits of his offensive game really are and realizes his best way to help is to play better defense.

 

[RocknRollface]

Why is not an option? Dembele is a better option based on his frame alone, or Freeman.

Either are better options.

Was my point not obvious?

This seems like year 10 of Frans family members getting too much pt.

 

[kceasthawk]

Honestly Perkins probably shouldn't be starting either until he accepts what the limits of his offensive game really are and realizes his best way to help is to play better defense.

Agreed. Saucy T is probably the most consistently, inconsistent player on the team if there is such a thing..

 

[Steamboat529529]

Lol, due to his last name? He's pretty much worthless on both ends of the court.

Due to being the son of the head coach, yes.

 

[goodbyebobby]

Due to being the son of the head coach, yes.

BFD

 

[intrepodor]

The most obvious starter to sit is Patrick.

Patrick won't sit unless Fran sits

 

[goodbyebobby]

Was my point not obvious?

This seems like year 10 of Frans family members getting too much pt.

Was my point not obvious? He's useless, sorry.

Nothing personal, Fran and family, but he brings zero to the team.

 

[intrepodor]

Obviously but that's not an option.

Maybe the new lady AD can intervene?

I don't think Fran would take it as well as Kirk.

How red would Frans face get?

 

[RocknRollface]

How red would Frans face get?

Just thinking about it makes me laugh.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

Agreed. Saucy T is probably the most consistently, inconsistent player on the team if there is such a thing..

His defensive alignment today was middle school level.

 

[RocknRollface]

Was my point not obvious? He's useless, sorry.

Nothing personal, Fran and family, but he brings zero to the team.

Yes it was.

Everyone gets that but Fran.

 

[Franisdaman]

Start Brock and Owen. So much upside on both ends.

 

[CadeHawk]

The most obvious starter to sit is Patrick.

Watching the game with a lot of family and in-laws today. At the same time three of us all said about the same thing. We all either said Patrick has not improved at all from his freshman year or has gotten worse.

He has not developed at all or taken the next step.

 

[HawkLogic]

Freeman is pretty good and should start at center.

PMAC is a minus defender and minus rebounder---pretty obvious he shouldn't be a starter.

 

[Heathen Raider]

The most obvious starter to sit is Patrick.

Never happen , He always gives His Kids too many minutes , Keagan sat , Freeman will sit.

 

[Buffalo43]

I honestly don't think Fran is utilizing Pmacs size get him on the block he is no help playing outside in

 

[Bulldogs1974]

I honestly don't think Fran is utilizing Pmacs size get him on the block he is no help playing outside in

He’s not strong enough and never done it. He’s always played outside. He’s a d1 coaches kid

 

[BrewHawk]

Pat was open on the baseline, but wasn't ready to catch a really nice pass, then looked annoyed that whoever it was threw him the ball.

 

[Franisdaman]

one of his impressive moves

 

[Heathen Raider]

I honestly don't think Fran is utilizing Pmacs size get him on the block he is no help playing outside in

He isn't strong enough to be anything on the block

 

[shanksit44]

He isn't strong enough to be anything on the block

Nor does he want anything to do with it.

 

[your_master5]

He isn't strong enough to be anything on the block

That new arm tat didn't increase his strength??!!

 

[CookyMonster]

I would've been more excited for the season if pmac wasn't on the roster. His dad is the cause for his anxiety. He plays too much and receives criticism because he gets token minutes other guys at his level wouldn't get. In return, we bitch about him, he reads it and feels bad about himself.

 

[blubberhawk]

We’ve seen enough. Definitely one of the top 5 players and the best interior defender by far. I don’t care whether you bench Patrick or Payton. I think Harding needs more minutes too, our offense runs better with him and he hasn’t proven to be a huge defensive liability.

Just a shit showing by our starters.

go with the 4 freshman/1 sophomore and sub in the rest. Play for a big season next year. Moline kids look for real. Let's go with them now.

 

[Hawkfan_08]

Agreed. Saucy T is probably the most consistently, inconsistent player on the team if there is such a thing..

I've said that exact statement for the last 3 years.

 

[ButtersHawk]

Pmac is weird to me. I get all the hate Connor got over the years but he only shot when wide open. Played solid D and was a good passer. I honestly don't know what Pat does well on a consistent basis.

 

[GunnerHawk]

Freeman is pretty good and should start at center.

PMAC is a minus defender and minus rebounder---pretty obvious he shouldn't be a starter.

Yep, he is a defensive liability and has never rebounded.

My starters are:

Freeman (center) - need his inside game
Krikke (PF) - need his scoring
Harding - better floor general and he and Freeman are in sync
Perkins - defense and penetrator
Sandfort - outside scoring (when he's on, look out)

Bowen, PMac and Demble next three in

 

[Steve Waite]

Yep, he is a defensive liability and has never rebounded.

My starters are:

Freeman (center) - need his inside game
Krikke (PF) - need his scoring
Harding - better floor general and he and Freeman are in sync
Perkins - defense and penetrator
Sandfort - outside scoring (when he's on, look out)
Bowen, PMac and Demble next three in

Replace Perkins with Dix that’s your best 5 players. Dembele and Pryce off the bench.
Perkins and Bowen get scrub minutes. PMac to the ymca league!

 

[HawkLogic]

He’s not strong enough and never done it. He’s always played outside. He’s a d1 coaches kid

It goes back to PMAC's AAU team when Dad's connections got him a roster spot on a loaded team. PMAC played outside on that AAU team...PMAC is probably a nice/sensitive, nice kid, but at 6'9 needed to have a game inside the paint and be willing to mix it up. CMAC had the physical edge in his game, but he lacked offensive talent. Neither would have started if their Father wasn't coach.

 

[Mohawkeye]

It goes back to PMAC's AAU team when Dad's connections got him a roster spot on a loaded team. PMAC played outside on that AAU team...PMAC is probably a nice/sensitive, nice kid, but at 6'9 needed to have a game inside the paint and be willing to mix it up. CMAC had the physical edge in his game, but he lacked offensive talent. Neither would have started if their Father wasn't coach.

I think PMac had actually improved a lot in 4 years and his shot selection is much better. But his father is doing him a disservice by continuing to play him at the 3. That’s just an impossible defend for him.