Stop calling us racists!!

[Obviously Oblivious]

Are we really discussing an adult’s rights to enter into a legal marriage? WTF is wrong with this country? After Dobbs, why should I be surprised anymore? There’s a vocal minority in this country that needs to be pummeled incessantly.

 

[thewop]

Because the current status quo is the "popular"/non-racist position everywhere. Why would you want to change that?

This isn't a simple academic exercise. Opening it back up to the states means that some states will likely put in place laws against it. If there was no movement to do that there wouldn't be any movement to get rid of the decision in the first place.

And historically this is what "states rights" has been used to do. It's not like the Loving v. Virginia happened by accident. It happened because a inter-racial couple wanted to be together and get married and Virginia using laws similar to many southern state's laws at the time sought to criminally punish them for it.

If you want to undo that decision you want to undo it for a reason. And if you want to undo that decision you also believe that it never should have been decided that way and that the southern states should have been allowed to just continue to criminally punish any inter-racial couples from marrying.

Your argument is good, and I can't even say I disagree with any specific point, however... Why should it be up to me or anyone else besides that state to decide how they want to treat marriage?

The point is moot, because there is no movement to ban it, and any attempt to would be taken down swiftly.

I'm a fan of letting the people, and the market decide though. Imagine how companies would remove investments from states, or how suddenly they'd lose access to federal funding because of discrimination, etc. if they actually passed something like that...

 

[torbee]

I'm a fan of letting the people, and the market decide though.

Would you apply this same argument to slavery?

And if no, why not?

 

[fsu1jreed]

trump has emboldened his followers to come out of the woods and into the mainstream.

He showed you can be a piece of shit with no shame

 

[fsu1jreed]

Would you apply this same argument to slavery?

And if no, why not?

Or child labor

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Your argument is good, and I can't even say I disagree with any specific point, however... Why should it be up to me or anyone else besides that state to decide how they want to treat marriage?

The point is moot, because there is no movement to ban it, and any attempt to would be taken down swiftly.

I'm a fan of letting the people, and the market decide though. Imagine how companies would remove investments from states, or how suddenly they'd lose access to federal funding because of discrimination, etc. if they actually passed something like that...

Because it's understood to be a basic right for any adult to be able to marry any other non-related adult.

This affects real people's lives.