Stormy Daniels 2.0

[THE_DEVIL]

 

[lucas80]

Kind of blows his narrative that she's lying if he's trying to buy her silence. I don't know why he is bothering. Nothing alienates his base.

 

[HawkBall23]

No wonder he's done this a few times in his life ....

 

[Sullivan]

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MSNBC realizes the interview went poorly, and now they are attempting to create another distraction.

 

[The Tradition]

As I've said many times before, people enter into confidentiality agreements with other people ALL THE FREAKING TIME. It's a completely normal thing.

 

[95Hawk]

As a devout Christian, I completely side with the Orange Dude and his sexual interludes with an adult film star.

I’m sure my MAGA bros join me in this.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

As I've said many times before, people enter into confidentiality agreements with other people ALL THE FREAKING TIME. It's a completely normal thing.

It is not normal for a guy running for POTUS to be paying off sex workers. Maybe in your family. But not mine.

 

[Huey Grey]

As I've said many times before, people enter into confidentiality agreements with other people ALL THE FREAKING TIME. It's a completely normal thing.

Sure is. Why I have at least half a dozen confidentiality agreements with pornstars right now to keep them from telling my wife that I cheated on her and that's why she now has herpes. Completely normal stuff.

 

[The Tradition]

It is not normal for a guy running for POTUS to be paying off sex workers. Maybe in your family. But not mine.

I personally draft dozens of separation agreements containing "shut the fvck up" clauses every year. It's business.

 

[Huey Grey]

I personally draft dozens of separation agreements containing "shut the fvck up" clauses every year. It's business.

We have now entered the peak Trad phase of this thread.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I personally draft dozens of separation agreements containing "shut the fvck up" clauses every year. It's business.

You probably should not be doing that as you are not an attorney. Lucky you haven't got screwed (yet). I bet a competent attorney would blow up your NDAs.

 

[The Tradition]

You probably should not be doing that as you are not an attorney. Lucky you haven't got screwed (yet). I bet a competent attorney would blow up your NDAs.

The boilerplate was created by attorneys and if there's anything weird about a particular agreement it's reviewed by attorneys.

But it's usually BAU.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I'm not trying to be a dick Trad, just saying unless you are ready to retire, your company is not going to fall on the sword for you.

 

[95Hawk]

We have now entered the peak Trad phase of this thread.

I respect a guy who has earned a Marriott elite status to effectively deflect how f’d up his support of the Orange Turd is.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

But it's usually BAU.

That is when shit hits the fan.

 

[The Tradition]

I'm not trying to be a dick Trad, just saying unless you are ready to retire, your company is not going to fall on the sword for you.

Huh? My name and signature isn't on any of these agreements. I just draft them. If there's some sort of personal liability, that's not on me.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Huh? My name and signature isn't on any of these agreements. I just draft them. If there's some sort of personal liability, that's not on me.

How naive.

 

[Scott559]

I personally draft dozens of separation agreements containing "shut the fvck up" clauses every year. It's business.

When did you get your Law degree?

 

[The Tradition]

How naive.

Explain.

I don't fire anybody (except my direct reports, which rarely happens). The agreements I write are for other VP-level folks to present upon separation, because they are the managers who are firing people.

You're "naive" comment is analogous to a legal secretary being held accountable for something the lawyer signed.

And even that's not a good analogy because I'm drafting it instead of an hourly employee because of confidentiality concerns.

 

[Huey Grey]

Explain.

I don't fire anybody (except my direct reports, which rarely happens). The agreements I write are for other VP-level folks to present upon separation, because they are the managers who are firing people.

You're "naive" comment is analogous to a legal secretary being held accountable for something the lawyer signed.

And even that's not a good analogy because I'm drafting it instead of an hourly employee because of confidentiality concerns.

You just said that the only time attorneys review these agreements is if there's weirdness going on. Which means that you're spearheading tons of these things with no legal review, no?

 

[The Tradition]

You just said that the only time attorneys review these agreements is if there's weirdness going on. Which means that you're spearheading tons of these things with no legal review, no?

Of course we don't have a lawyer review every run-of-the-mill separation situation. That would be idiotic.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Of course we don't have a lawyer review every run-of-the-mill separation situation. That would be idiotic.

No, that would be smart business.

 

[CRazzle]

 

[alaskanseminole]

Sure is. Why I have at least half a dozen confidentiality agreements with pornstars right now to keep them from telling my wife that I cheated on her and that's why she now has herpes. Completely normal stuff.

Same here.

 

[Scott559]

Of course we don't have a lawyer review every run-of-the-mill separation situation. That would be idiotic.

Seems to me a company having an HR guy “drafting” NDA’s is idiotic.

 

[The Tradition]

No, that would be smart business.

No, it would not.

 

[Huey Grey]

Of course we don't have a lawyer review every run-of-the-mill separation situation. That would be idiotic.

So you're drafting tons of NDAs with no review? Sure seems like this would be ripe to blow up in your face if anyone seriously fought it.

 

[The Tradition]

Seems to me a company having an HR guy “drafting” NDA’s is idiotic.

You would be wrong.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Seems to me a company having an HR guy “drafting” NDA’s is idiotic.

A crapload of liability there. It only takes one class action to bring down an entire company.

Trad: "we'll it is a standard boilerplate form that we use"

Cross-examination: "are you aware that the case law and/or code has changed"

Trad: "Its BAU".

 

[SI_NYC]

As a devout Christian, I completely side with the Orange Dude and his sexual interludes with an adult film star.

I’m sure my MAGA bros join me in this.

Trump has normalized being a POS human. MAGA doesn’t care. They rejoice in what a shitty person Trump is.

 

[Huey Grey]

You would be wrong.

I don't know dude. If my work told me that my new job was to draft NDAs with no supervising attorney, I would probably pass.

 

[globalhawk]

You would be wrong.

That you are in HR. We already knew that.

 

[alaskanseminole]

He’s doing it [the NDA] for her, obviously! No one wants a respected porn star’s personal business plastered all over social media. Just thinking of others first, like the good Samaritan he is.

 

[The Tradition]

So you're drafting tons of NDAs with no review? Sure seems like this would be ripe to blow up in your face if anyone seriously fought it.

It's a simple agreement. You are accepting this money in exchange for keeping everything about this agreement, including the agreement itself, confidential, with the exception of participating in legal interrogatories, regulatory investigations, serving as a witness, blah, blah, blah.

If you breach this agreement, we have the right to request a court injunction and claw the money back.

I've delt with all kinds of lawyers over the course of my career, and our template is reviewed by them. No need to have them review the same thing over and over again.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I don't know dude. If my work told me that my new job was to draft NDAs with no supervising attorney, I would probably pass.

Exactly. Out of his lane.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

It's a simple agreement. You are accepting this money in exchange for keeping everything about this agreement, including the agreement itself, confidential, with the exception of participating in legal interrogatories, regulatory investigations, serving as a witness, blah, blah, blah.

If you breach this agreement, we have the right to request a court injunction and claw the money back.

I've delt with all kinds of lawyers over the course of my career, and our template is reviewed by them. No need to have them review the same thing over and over again.

You don't understand labor law.....surprisingly. If there is any sort of coercion / duress / undue influence / threats of retribution / sexism/ racism / transgender/ etc.....


.....you are screwed Trad.

 

[The Tradition]

A crapload of liability there. It only takes one class action to bring down an entire company.

Trad: "we'll it is a standard boilerplate form that we use"

Cross-examination: "are you aware that the case law and/or code has changed"

Trad: "Its BAU".

LOL! We had a lawyer come after us demanding $200K for a manager who got fired because FMLA ran out, and the lawyer had "case law" stating that leave as an ADA accommodation could be "reasonable" for an entire year.

Well, not if we're talking about a stand-alone manager position that isn't easily replaced. The "case law" had to do with positions with many incumbents so "covering" the absence wasn't an "undue hardship" (that lawyer failed to consider that qualifier).

This lawyer is now begging for $20K and we're countering with nothing (and of course, we have lawyers on this case).

Long story short: I keep up with "case law," you jackass. You don't have to be a lawyer to do that, and even the lawyers don't do that correctly.

 

[Huey Grey]

Didn't the NLRB ban NDAs for severance?

 

[The Tradition]

You don't understand labor law.....surprisingly. If there is any sort of coercion / duress / undue influence / threats of retribution / sexism/ racism / transgender/ etc.....


.....you are screwed Trad.

Dude, why would you think I don't understand all that?

 

[The Tradition]

Didn't the NLRB ban NDAs?

The National Labor Relations Board controls union activities. The stuff I'm talking about is firing managers, and they're not eligible to be in a union.