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Supreme Court upholds TikTok ban-or-sale law set to start Sunday

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The Supreme Court on Friday refused to block a federal law that would effectively ban TikTok in the United States as early as this weekend if the wildly popular video-sharing app does not divest from Chinese ownership.

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The justices’ order was a blow for TikTok, prohibiting its operation in the lead-up to Monday’s inauguration of President-elect Donald Trump, who has promised to “save” the app.

Trump had asked the Supreme Court to delay implementation of the law to give him an opportunity to act once he returns to the White House. With the court declining that option and no sale of the app seemingly imminent, the ban is now poised to take effect on the eve of Trump’s inauguration.

The ban-or-sale law was passed in April with bipartisan support and signed by President Joe Biden in response to national security concerns about the Chinese government’s potential influence over the platform.

With the Sunday deadline approaching, the Supreme Court scheduled a special session last week to hear a First Amendment challenge from the company and TikTok creators. They said the government’s national security concerns do not justify an unprecedented, sweeping restriction on the speech of 170 million Americans who use the app for news, entertainment and self-expression.
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At oral argument, a majority of justices appeared inclined to uphold the law, which requires TikTok’s China-based parent company, ByteDance, to sell the platform. They credited Congress’s concern about the Chinese government covertly using the app to collect vast amounts of sensitive data about millions of American users and potentially exploiting that information to blackmail young Americans or turn them into spies.

“That seems like a huge concern for the future of the country,” said Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh during the nearly three-hour argument.

Several justices from across the ideological spectrum also emphasized that foreign entities do not have First Amendment rights and that the site could continue to operate in a similar manner but under different, non-Chinese ownership.


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While Trump has pledged to rescue the app from the ban-or-sale law, how he plans to do so remains unclear. The Washington Post reported Wednesday that the president-elect is exploring unorthodox ways to aid the platform, including issuing an executive order once he takes office that would suspend enforcement of the law for 60 to 90 days. But Trump said earlier this week that until the Supreme Court weighed in, “nobody knows” TikTok’s fate.

Still, Trump has repeatedly given TikTok’s allies cause for hope, including inviting the company’s CEO, Shou Zi Chew, to attend his swearing-in ceremony as an honored guest on the dais. Chew is also slated to attend at least two other celebrations for Trump ahead of his inauguration Monday, including a reception for the incoming Cabinet and a dinner for Vice President-elect JD Vance this weekend.

Under the TikTok law, known as the Protecting Americans From Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, app-store giants such as Google and Apple and internet-hosting services could face massive fines if they continue to carry TikTok on their products beyond the Sunday deadline for divestment. Infractions could cost companies $5,000 for each user that continues to access TikTok, which could add up to billions of dollars in penalties.
While the law is aimed at forcing app stores and internet hosting services to stop carrying TikTok, executives inside the company have discussed pulling the app offline for U.S. users on Sunday to highlight how disruptive a ban would be, according to a person familiar with their thinking who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share internal plans. The Information first reported on the possibility, but the person familiar with the discussions said no final decision had been made.

TikTok lawyer Noel Francisco said during oral argument that his understanding was the platform would “go dark” on Sunday if the court did not delay the law and the White House did not delay implementation.

TikTok has not publicly commented on its plans. TikTok employees in the United States were sent an email Tuesday saying the company was “planning for various scenarios” and that its offices would remain open “even if this situation hasn’t been resolved before the January 19 deadline.”
Even a temporary ban could lead to a major user exodus from which it would be difficult for the company to recover, according to TikTok. Even though the app would likely remain on the devices of users in the event of a ban, it could become inoperable, or their lack of access to updates could degrade their use of the site. TikTok’s website could also cease to function on internet browsers.

This week, ahead of the court’s decision, many users calling themselves “TikTok refugees” began shifting to competing video apps including the Chinese-owned RedNote and ByteDance-owned Lemon8. ByteDance could still stave off a TikTok ban by selling the app, but the company has insisted it does not plan to do so, and the Chinese government has said it opposes divestiture.
 
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I know this is because china. But, I wouldn’t mind if they started banning other forms of social media.
That crap doesn’t do anything of value. Just gives mind numbing entertainment and makes some the dumbest people famous.
 
Wow. 9-0 on the outcome.

By my read 7-1/2 to 1-12 as to intermediate scrutiny being applicable due to the law being content neutral.

And once you got to that, hard to imagine, given the detail in the legislative findings and choices, they wouldn't defer to congress on natsec matters.

As usual, Gorsuch an interesting read in his concurrence.
 
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it's a sad day for people who like funny videos and boobs

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They credited Congress’s concern about the Chinese government covertly using the app to collect vast amounts of sensitive data about millions of American users and potentially exploiting that information to blackmail young Americans or turn them into spies.

Wait, what? This is what they are scared of?

Several justices from across the ideological spectrum also emphasized that foreign entities do not have First Amendment rights and that the site could continue to operate in a similar manner but under different, non-Chinese ownership.

Oh, so Mark Cuban can buy it and use it in the same manner...to steal data and make...American spies?
 
They credited Congress’s concern about the Chinese government covertly using the app to collect vast amounts of sensitive data about millions of American users and potentially exploiting that information to blackmail young Americans or turn them into spies.

Wait, what? This is what they are scared of?

Several justices from across the ideological spectrum also emphasized that foreign entities do not have First Amendment rights and that the site could continue to operate in a similar manner but under different, non-Chinese ownership.

Oh, so Mark Cuban can buy it and use it in the same manner...to steal data and make...American spies?
1. That's just one of a number of things identified.
2. Whether you, i, or the court think that's silly, unlikely, or otherwise, doesn't really matter that much. once congress acted on that sort of 'legislative finding' there realistically wasn't much the court could do about it. More article i deference, as i've noted elsewhere. Particularly given that they apparently didn't want to get into the classified information relating to 'actual' chinese activity that the G submitted as part of the briefing.
 
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1. That's just one of a number of things identified.
2. Whether you, i, or the court think that's silly, unlikely, or otherwise, doesn't really matter that much. once congress acted on that sort of 'legislative finding' there realistically wasn't much the court could do about it. More article i deference, as i've noted elsewhere. Particularly given that they apparently didn't want to get into the classified information relating to 'actual' chinese activity that the G submitted as part of the briefing.
To point 2, right? once congress passed the law, what is SC gonna do but defer to their “intelligence”
 
To point 2, right? once congress passed the law, what is SC gonna do but defer to their “intelligence”
they do stupid things all the time, every day. But they were elected to do them, and it's basically bedrock legal principles that so-called 'legislative facts' like that don't get questioned by courts. And it's not like the executive branch was shy about this either - the administration rejected various negotiation proposals to address the concerns as being insufficient.

it's sort of interesting - At a gut level, i share some of your skepticism, but the natsec reporter that I really trust (JJ Green) had a piece on this the other day, and i was actually really surprised at how seriously his report suggested that the intel community professionals take this threat.
 
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