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Tax revenue could drop by 10 percent amid turmoil at IRS

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Senior tax officials are bracing for a sharp drop in revenue collected this spring, as an increasing number of individuals and businesses spurn filing their taxes or attempt to skip paying balances owed to the Internal Revenue Service, according to three people with knowledge of tax projections.

Treasury Department and IRS officials are predicting a decrease of more than 10 percent in tax receipts by the April 15 deadline compared with 2024, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share nonpublic data. That would amount to more than $500 billion in lost federal revenue; the IRS collected $5.1 trillion last year. For context, the U.S. government spent $825 billion on the Defense Department in fiscal 2024.

“The idea of doing that in one year, it’s hard to grapple with how meaningful of a shift that represents,” said Natasha Sarin, president of the Yale Budget Lab and a senior Biden administration tax official.
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The prediction, officials say, is directly tied to changing taxpayer behavior and President Donald Trump’s rapid demolition of parts of the IRS. Senior tax agency officials issued detailed warnings about those outcomes to the incoming Trump administration before the president took office, according to records obtained by The Washington Post.
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The IRS publishes weekly filing season reports that show the number of returns received and how officials are processing refunds. Those reports show the IRS has received 1.7 percent fewer returns this year compared with the same point in the 2024 filing season.
 
Yeah knew this shit was going to happen.

 
I fear that some federal employees will intentionally slow walk tax return payments these next four years.
 
Yeah knew this shit was going to happen.


IIRC, beefing up the IRS to catch tax cheats had an ROI of 8:1 or 10:1

Cutting the IRS was bound to have at least that, or a far worse outcome.
Most "flyover country" MAGAs have simple 1040 form taxes w/o many places to hide income - the richest and the upper middle class (which represents a small fraction of the middle class) skip out on taxes with far more frequency. But, they've convinced the masses to vote against their own interests, so those affluent folks can all escape their tax liabilities.
 
It’s both, you moran

Again:

The LAST time we had a budget surplus was Clinton.
Tax revenues were >20% GDP
Today, with Trump's and Bush's tax cuts, they are 16% GDP (and likely to fall below that)

We can balance the budget like the Clinton years; but we have to stop electing people who won't allow it because they leave the biggest tax cheats free to escape their tax liabilities. And those folks spend many billions to keep the system the way it is, and vilify immigrants and gays and anyone else to pit people against one another and laugh all the way to the bank.
 
Returns are for people not good at understanding their tax situation. People using their returns like a savings account are likely short on financial literacy.
The goal should be to adjust your withholding yearly to basically end up at zero return/zero owed.

Not sure why anyone would want the federal government to be a savings account for their own money every year.
 
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The goal should be to adjust your withholding yearly to basically end up at zero return/zero owed.

Not sure why anyone would want the federal government to be a savings account for their own money every year.
Ideally you owe 10% of total tax with your return, paying in the least amount of tax throughout the year without triggering an underpayment penalty.
 
The goal should be to adjust your withholding yearly to basically end up at zero return/zero owed.

Not sure why anyone would want the federal government to be a savings account for their own money every year.
I have a phobia with this one. True story. I was an E2 in the military and something got messed up with my withholding and I owed something like $800 my first full year in. I simply didn’t have it. My job required a security clearance and they suspended that because I couldn’t pay the IRS on April 15th. Since then, I’ve always tried to set it up to get about a grand back. I just can’t handle the uncertainty of owing to the irs.
 
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