That is a joke. PSU/Iowa No 1
When Flo uses a flawed methodology for preseason individual rankings, they'll end up with a flawed preseason team ranking as well. I think a little more intuition and investigative reporting could be used to gauge the potential of stud freshmen. There aren't more than 15-20 stud freshmen that warrant a closer scrutiny in preseason so that the rankings are more believable. That number does not seem overwhelming to me when you have a couple months to prepare the rankings and do this for a living 24/7.
You think that PSU being ranked 6th is evidence of PSU bias by Flo? And that it is all an elaborate plan for Flo to praise the almighty Cael when the team does better than 6th? Take off the tinfoil hat and step away from the keyboard.
I understand what you are saying, but it doesn't require a great deal of subjectivity to know that a Marinelli or a Kemdog or a Suriano will be in the mix come March. Maybe not top 2, but point scorers and maybe more. For that matter, subjectivity was used last year to rank Gulibon #1 preseason. So subjectivity goes both ways, but that word seems to only be uttered when supporting one's position.
It will be fun. I mostly agree, right now with Dayhawks original. IMO Boyd-Brooks will be THE swing match of the dual. Can see Heil opening up and getting a major. Should be great wrestling all around!
I agree, the individual rankings are just rankings based on each wrestlers results at the college level. CP states all the time that he thinks this guy or that guy will move up quickly but he can't move them up until they have results. Its really not any different than wrestlestats or SHP. The team rankings are just plug and chug from the individual rankings. After one month they will be drastically different. If you listened to the podcast he has clearly stated this multiple times including eating crow over comments about WIN team rankings. He did state that WIN clearly made mistakes on individuals.
So Lee and Hall will rightfully be unranked because someone said you can't rank freshmen? Even though many say they could already AA as high school kids?
Exactly. Rankings are purely based on college folk results.
Correct, they have wrestled zero college matches, and have zero quality college wins.
Oh, I do indeed. I just think it's quaint when people use past practice without any regard to exceptions or new practices. It's how mistakes are repeated over and over again. If you know something is likely incorrect, change it. Simple concept. It isn't like they are batting a 1,000 on those with histories, so why not take your best shot?
Because it gets people to start doing exactly what everyone is doing-reading their article, and talking about it. The only one that matters will come out early March, right after conference tourneys.
I would say that one doesn't even really matter, it doesn't affect seeds. It might align with them, but it is just for reading and discussing.
the final coaches ranking is one of the seeding criteria;
by then they will be really close to the coaches ranking, after everything plays out through the season. It is going to be a fun one!
they can be the same thing. It's semantics that separates them. In reality, they are the same. Ranking a guy #1 says that you project them to be #1 at the end of the year. If that is not true, then why do it? Who cares that you rank a guy #1 in October. I want the best assessment as to who the best is by end of year.
