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The fed has done so much damage

Wow, Aegon_Targaryen really owned this thread.
What are you smoking? He got destroyed.

He had no idea that the depth of recessions after the Fed got way shallower. Fact is that economic losses after the Fed have been far less. He was flat-out wrong when he claimed that most economists accurately predicted the crash. Fact is that most didn't see it coming. All he could come up with were a few people who made general statements of the crash and happened to get close.

Are some of you really this stupid?
 
What are you smoking? He got destroyed.

He had no idea that the depth of recessions after the Fed got way shallower. Fact is that economic losses after the Fed have been far less. He was flat-out wrong when he claimed that most economists accurately predicted the crash. Fact is that most didn't see it coming. All he could come up with were a few people who made general statements of the crash and happened to get close.

Are some of you really this stupid?
Words of a sore loser.
 
He doesn't understand this. He doesn't understand that when thousands of predictions are thrown out there everyday, a few are bound to be true. Few remember all the bad predictions. People generally only remember the few good ones, even if it means ignoring all the failed ones made by the same exact predictors.

Also notice that all of his examples are reliant are generalizations, both in terms of time and content. Practically nobody nailed the exact week the market would collapse. Most, even the ones who he considers as nailing it, only came within a year or two. If you give a 2-3 year window for something to become true, it drastically increases the likelihood of it actually happening. What it doesn't do is make your prediction accurate.

Or take a look at the content of the prediction regardless of time. Same rules follow. Practically nobody was able to predict the precise order in which the market would collapse. There were all dependent on the more general statement that it was housing or bank related. Well no shit. That encompasses a fairly large portion of the stock market. Anybody can say with a high degree of certainly that sometime down the road, another collapse will happen that involves our nation's largest banks. It's not really a profound statement. Same thing with housing. When you see home values rising through the roof, it doesn't take a genius to predict that it might be a bubble.

But if someone came along and said that it would all crash in October on 2008, then you have something.

A few people, who probably made a lot of other predictions that year that failed, do not make something accurately predictable.
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What are you smoking? He got destroyed.

He had no idea that the depth of recessions after the Fed got way shallower. Fact is that economic losses after the Fed have been far less. He was flat-out wrong when he claimed that most economists accurately predicted the crash. Fact is that most didn't see it coming. All he could come up with were a few people who made general statements of the crash and happened to get close.

Are some of you really this stupid?
I never said most by the way, another delusion on your part.
 
I'm still laughing how he put people out there who made this prediction in the 90s without giving an exact year when it would happen.
Words of a sore loser.
Dude. You seriously argued this exact crap. And you got destroyed. For chrissake you had no idea that the recessions before the Fed averaged losses around 20-30% while now they average less than 5%. You're doing the same exact thing me and gordo are complaining about. Throw a bunch of wild statements out there. Ignore the ones you didn't get true. And act like "King" for the pitiful ones you happened to get right. It's straight up juvenile.
 
He doesn't understand this. He doesn't understand that when thousands of predictions are thrown out there everyday, a few are bound to be true. Few remember all the bad predictions. People generally only remember the few good ones, even if it means ignoring all the failed ones made by the same exact predictors.

Also notice that all of his examples are reliant are generalizations, both in terms of time and content. Practically nobody nailed the exact week the market would collapse. Most, even the ones who he considers as nailing it, only came within a year or two. If you give a 2-3 year window for something to become true, it drastically increases the likelihood of it actually happening. What it doesn't do is make your prediction accurate.

Or take a look at the content of the prediction regardless of time. Same rules follow. Practically nobody was able to predict the precise order in which the market would collapse. There were all dependent on the more general statement that it was housing or bank related. Well no shit. That encompasses a fairly large portion of the stock market. Anybody can say with a high degree of certainly that sometime down the road, another collapse will happen that involves our nation's largest banks. It's not really a profound statement. Same thing with housing. When you see home values rising through the roof, it doesn't take a genius to predict that it might be a bubble.

But if someone came along and said that it would all crash in October on 2008, then you have something.

A few people, who probably made a lot of other predictions that year that failed, do not make something accurately predictable.
None of these words went anywhere, you simply denied the truth over and over. No wonder you've failed at life.
 
Denial is an ugly thing. Don't be like Huey, admit you were wrong.

I am not wrong. You didn't read what I said. Roubini is one of my favorite economists to read, his pessimism keeps me grounded. But he has never had a positive thought on the economy. I never said no one predicted this, I said many did but unfortunately many always predict gloom.
 
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I'm still laughing how he put people out there who made this prediction in the 90s without giving an exact year when it would happen.

Dude. You seriously argued this exact crap. And you got destroyed. For chrissake you had no idea that the recessions before the Fed averaged losses around 20-30% while now they average less than 5%. You're doing the same exact thing me and gordo are complaining about. Throw a bunch of wild statements out there. Ignore the ones you didn't get true. And act like "King" for the pitiful ones you happened to get right. It's straight up juvenile.
More words of a loser,..you're acting like a fighter who got knocked out, and still claims he won the fight.
 
I am not wrong. You didn't read what I said. Roubini is one of my favorite economists to read, his pessimism keeps me grounded. But he has never had a positive thought on the economy. I never said no one predicted this, I said many did but unfortunately many always predict gloom.
Do they also explain what the root cause would be? Because everyone in these videos did. They very explicitly stated it would stem from a housing bubble.
 
The great thing about predicting doom is that you can never be wrong, just early.
Especially when you correctly predict what the cause would be, despite so many telling you that you're wrong. Did you even watch the videos?
 
I am not worried about the future in the long run. T will be fine because we all have no choice but to live in the economy. Highs and lows happen.

I do wonder if the fed is out of bullets this time around. They really can't drop interest rates much lower since we are so close to zero now. I ask the experts here, does America have to just Ride this one all the way out without any help in the form of cheap money as a stimulant?
Pretty much, yup. What other choice is there?
 
Do they also explain what the root cause would be? Because everyone in these videos did. They very explicitly stated it would stem from a housing bubble.

Yes, subprime mortgages that were incorrectly rated AAA.

Especially when you correctly predict what the cause would be, despite so many telling you that you're wrong. Did you even watch the videos?

Yes, i was speaking in general terms about how predicting gloom is easier.

Peter schiff is a smart guy but he is alway negative, people invested in his mutual fund since inception in 2010 have lost 30% because he is always negative.
 
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Actually, a Democrat, one Andrew Jackson warned everyone of the dangers of a "national bank" and its ability to manipulate the economy and enrich the wealthy.
If you want to rant and rave and point fingers...start at the beginning of this discussion.

However, I disagree with a lot of Jackson's anti-Fed rants but I agree with him about the damnation of the banking industry.
 
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