The late charging call against Clark, looked bogus, smelled bogus; refs seeing things?

[uihawk82]

If you remember it was maybe around 3-4 minutes left in 4th qtr. Clark driving down right edge of lane and the defender was off to her left side and moving with her. There is no way the defender had position and was not at all established. Clark did not seem to extend her left arm and push her but the camera angle made that hard to see.

Is Clark getting some subconscious officaitating against her at times? Do refs think she is doing something but not? Seemed like a really bad call out in the open floor.

 

[Chuck C]

If you remember it was maybe around 3-4 minutes left in 4th qtr. Clark driving down right edge of lane and the defender was off to her left side and moving with her. There is no way the defender had position and was not at all established. Clark did not seem to extend her left arm and push her but the camera angle made that hard to see.

Is Clark getting some subconscious officaitating against her at times? Do refs think she is doing something but not? Seemed like a really bad call out in the open floor.

I think it was a make up call. That one didn’t look like a charge, but she had a couple others earlier where she pushed off and could have been called.

 

[BrewHawk]

I think it was a make up call. That one didn’t look like a charge, but she a couple others earlier where she pushed off and could have been called.

Yeah, she gave a pretty hard elbow/shoulder to #1 that sent her flying.

 

[HerkysDad]

Clark is being seen as too good to be true, so she has to be cheating.

 

[BioHawk]

Her arm was up, but there wasn't contact. I'm willing to go along with the, "Clark got away with some contact earlier so it balances out in the end" explanation. Anytime your elbows are up when you come close to contact there is a risk of some bs call like that happening.

 

[millah_22]

If you remember it was maybe around 3-4 minutes left in 4th qtr. Clark driving down right edge of lane and the defender was off to her left side and moving with her. There is no way the defender had position and was not at all established. Clark did not seem to extend her left arm and push her but the camera angle made that hard to see.

Is Clark getting some subconscious officaitating against her at times? Do refs think she is doing something but not? Seemed like a really bad call out in the open floor.

the one where the defender tripped and fell down?

 

[millah_22]

Yeah, she gave a pretty hard elbow/shoulder to #1 that sent her flying.

the one where #1 didn't have her feet set and still ran into Clark?

 

[millah_22]

Clark is being seen as too good to be true, so she has to be cheating.

She's also v strong and plays pretty aggressive. She's hard to keep up with, which is going to make out of position flops look like fouls.

 

[BrewHawk]

the one where #1 didn't have her feet set and still ran into Clark?

No, the one where Clark initiated contact.

 

[CaboKP]

I felt the 2nd illegal screen charging was a worse call against Sharon Goodman.

 

[Franisdaman]

I think it was a make up call. That one didn’t look like a charge, but she had a couple others earlier where she pushed off and could have been called.

Virginia Tech was not happy about this call

 

[millah_22]

Virginia Tech was not happy about this call

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No, the one where Clark initiated contact.

Yeah I was talking about this one. So is clark just supposed to stop driving even though #1 is not set and completely out of position? Not Clarks fault.

 

[Franisdaman]

8 seconds into this video you will see VT's bench losing their minds. Guess they were looking for an offensive foul there, too.

Makes one wonder; are opposing coaches going to get into the refs heads, where it works, and the refs start calling CC for this?

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[BrewHawk]

Yeah I was talking about this one. So is clark just supposed to stop driving even though #1 is not set and completely out of position? Not Clarks fault.

It was a cheap shot by Clark.

 

[LinusPF]

As with any superstar, most 50/50 calls are going her way.

And I'm OK with that.

 

[ichawk24]

Clark gets more than her share of calls. She didn't get this one. Oh well.

Most egregious call of the night was early on when Gabbie got called for a foul while avoiding a screen.

 

[oldhawk56]

As with any superstar, most 50/50 calls are going her way.

And I'm OK with that.

What they gave to Caitlin, they took from Stulke and Goodman.
Clark has the ball in her hands 90% of the time and she is always the fastest player.
All they can do is try to even out the calls?

 

[Chuck C]

Virginia Tech was not happy about this call

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A little bit of soccer acting by number 1 there.

 

[LinusPF]

What they gave to Caitlin, they took from Stulke and Goodman.
Clark has the ball in her hands 90% of the time and she is always the fastest player.
All they can do is try to even out the calls?

I thought all three 'moving screen??' calls against Hannah and Sharon were bad.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

Virginia Tech was not happy about this call

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not legal guarding position, tough call no doubt but you have to stay in front.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

8 seconds into this video you will see VT's bench losing their minds. Guess they were looking for an offensive foul there, too.

Makes one wonder; are opposing coaches going to get into the refs heads, where it works, and the refs start calling CC for this?

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that was the travel. they were right

 

[Hendy hawk]

I think it was a make up call. That one didn’t look like a charge, but she had a couple others earlier where she pushed off and could have been called.

Are they allowed to do makeup calls?

 

[HawkeyeGenius]

Opposing coaches know they can't stop Clark. Only hope is to whine and try to get a few early cheap fouls to get her off the floor.

 

[Franisdaman]

that was the travel. they were right

gotcha; I was wondering if they were upset about a forearm

 

[Franisdaman]

Are they allowed to do makeup calls?

some of these gals wear too much makeup, imo

and what's up with the fake eyelashes?

 

[kceasthawk]

some of these gals wear too much makeup, imo

and what's up with the fake eyelashes?

Made fashionable by Reese, so I'm sure we'll see a lot more now..... That and players wearing princess crowns after the game.......

 

[TheGuy9]

Yeah I was talking about this one. So is clark just supposed to stop driving even though #1 is not set and completely out of position? Not Clarks fault.

Yes. It's called body control. She threw an elbow in her back to initiate an advantage. It's no different than a player with the ball at half court pushing a player out of the way at the start of a drive with their arm. The defender almost certainly wouldn't be set at that point and would definitely be out of position (to the side because you aren't going to push a player out of the way if they are straight up on you) but it's called because an advantage is gained.

 

[MitchLL]

CC is in the stratosphere with players like LeBron, Curry, Jordan, and others.
Right or wrong, she'll get calls in her favor >50% of the time.

She's earned that status.

Just the way it is with superstars.

 

[HawkFan1986]

the one where the defender tripped and fell down?

Nope but that was also a bogus moving screen called on #40. Looked like Clark crossed up her defender and her defender fell. They blew the whistle and I don’t think the screen was even close to being set.

Officiating in bball is hard and the officials in women’s college ball are atrocious.

 

[UpstreamHawkeye]

Made fashionable by Reese, so I'm sure we'll see a lot more now..... That and players wearing princess crowns after the game.......

Is rolled up shorts still in fashion?

 

[kceasthawk]

Is rolled up shorts still in fashion?

Without question, Reese has game, so not to diminish her skill, BUT, her personna is more about what you SEE, (whats my hair look like, my eyelashes, etc.. etc..) with Clark its more about whats on the inside. As Kate Martin said recently, "her fire burns hot enough, to stoke our whole team".

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Virginia Tech was not happy about this call

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What would the correct call be there? Can't be a charge can it? Maybe a no call?

 

[Lone Clone]

If you remember it was maybe around 3-4 minutes left in 4th qtr. Clark driving down right edge of lane and the defender was off to her left side and moving with her. There is no way the defender had position and was not at all established. Clark did not seem to extend her left arm and push her but the camera angle made that hard to see.

Is Clark getting some subconscious officaitating against her at times? Do refs think she is doing something but not? Seemed like a really bad call out in the open floor.

1. I didn't watch the game (ISU men were playing at the same time);
2. Great win for Iowa;
3.I am continually amazed at how great a player Clark is;
4. With halfway decent officials, Iowa would be national champion.

Having said that, I will observe that contrary to the idea she is getting bad treatment from officials, I would imagine she gets especially good treatment more often. Superstars usually do. For the same reason heavily favored teams tend to get better officiating than underdogs. It isn't a conscious thing. It's a matter of expectations.

 

[bulletproof90]

LSU got great benefit in the championship game in their approach to defending Clark, which was to launch their bodies ten feet in the air on any contact from Clark.

I'm afraid other teams are gonna continue to do this against her, unless refs really crack down on what's becoming a big flopping problem.

 

[FrankBurns00]

Yes. It's called body control. She threw an elbow in her back to initiate an advantage. It's no different than a player with the ball at half court pushing a player out of the way at the start of a drive with their arm. The defender almost certainly wouldn't be set at that point and would definitely be out of position (to the side because you aren't going to push a player out of the way if they are straight up on you) but it's called because an advantage is gained.

ummmm no. That is just simply incorrect. a defender can not run in front of the offensive player with their back to facing them. Doesn't matter who initiates the contact, that is a typical casual fans misconception.