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The left, the real facists.

There's that whataboutism that we all know and love.

What about CNN, MSN, NBC, CNBC?

The difference between the media outlets you listed and Fox News is that one of them is far more radical and preaches hate. Spoiler alert: It's Fox News.
Nobody preaches hate more than MSNBC with Joy Reid and the bunch running wild.
 
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There's that whataboutism that we all know and love.

What about CNN, MSN, NBC, CNBC?

The difference between the media outlets you listed and Fox News is that one of them is far more radical and preaches hate. Spoiler alert: It's Fox News.
The difference is that Fox News reports things that mainstream media doesn’t. I’m not a fan of Fox News but I know what the other outlets provide. If you truly believe that than I have some free land for you.
 
Yes, because CNN, MSN, NBC, CNBC and all talk show hosts play it right down the middle. Do you really want to compare media outlets? Dems have three chambers and the media and you want to talk about Fox News?
Wait a minute, Fox tells us they are an entertainment channel, station when they are called into court. Not a News outlet.
 
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The Left the Right or better put the Democrat and Republican party have been hijacked by children parading as competent adults. They want "their stuff" and people to think "their way" and they are both now willing to use the might of the federal govt to get it.

America is in a death spiral. Put your head down and go get what you can while you can, the next few years is going to be a struggle for soooooo many.
It also seems like both parties tend to do/say things for the sole purpose of getting likes and shares on social media anymore
 
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There's that whataboutism that we all know and love.

What about CNN, MSN, NBC, CNBC?

The difference between the media outlets you listed and Fox News is that one of them is far more radical and preaches hate. Spoiler alert: It's Fox News.
And the others say things like Kanye West are what happens when Negros can’t read. Or black conservatives are white supremacists. The list goes on and on.
 
i don't particularly like Joy Reid, but I am in 43 minutes tonight and I don't see her spewing hate.

Seriously, if you want hate, turn on Tucker.
 
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Yeah, that's fair. I just find it ironic that the GOP's propaganda machine (Fox News) is out here complaining about students not flying a "Support the Blue" flag, meanwhile a large percentage of their viewers probably have Confederate flags and Trump flags flying high and proud.

So you bringing a Fox News article about some college students refusing to fly a STB flag is comical. That's all I'm saying.
What does that have to do with any of this..?
 
Yeah, that's fair. I just find it ironic that the GOP's propaganda machine (Fox News) is out here complaining about students not flying a "Support the Blue" flag, meanwhile a large percentage of their viewers probably have Confederate flags and Trump flags flying high and proud.

So you bringing a Fox News article about some college students refusing to fly a STB flag is comical. That's all I'm saying.
Um...you've not made a point. The right is arguing that anyone can fly whatever flag they like. The left is arguing that only flags supporting left wing ideals are OK.
 
i don't particularly like Joy Reid, but I am in 43 minutes tonight and I don't see her spewing hate.

Seriously, if you want hate, turn on Tucker.
The fact that you’re 40 minutes into Joy Reid and still watching is telling.

Joy, Rachel, Hannity, Carlson, Watters, Ingram……. All scum and dividers. Those two knuckleheads on CNN before they got booted too.
 
The fact that you’re 40 minutes into Joy Reid and still watching is telling.

Joy, Rachel, Hannity, Carlson, Watters, Ingram……. All scum and dividers. Those two knuckleheads on CNN before they got booted too.

Not really. I am a firm believer in listening to all sides of crazy.
 
Not really. I am a firm believer in listening to all sides of crazy.
Well, we differ there. I can’t stand all that crazy. Too stressful getting pissed at their nonsense.

When I’m flipping through the channels and one of them is on, I react like it’s a campaign ad and get to the next channel as fast as I can, no matter what that channel is.
 
Well, we differ there. I can’t stand all that crazy. Too stressful getting pissed at their nonsense.

When I’m flipping through the channels and one of them is on, I react like it’s a campaign ad and get to the next channel as fast as I can, no matter what that channel is.

I hear ya, for some reason i self inflict pain on myself. Wife tells to quit reading the news. My response is always "that is what got us here". Glutton for punishment, but I think my beliefs are coming to a benefit. Oldest girl came to me and said, 'how messed up is a our criminal justice system"

- Damn, I was proud
 
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For the left, BLM flags are fine LBGTQ^%WE flags are fine, but not flags supporting the police, the military or first responders.

Is this the same Trinity University that graduated one Tucker Carlson....THAT left-wing liberal arts school? Probably how FOX News got the scoop on this story?
 
Controlling speech to only allow specific messaging.

Constituted a ministry of truth.

various social justice manipulations

Here’s a book:



Here’s another:

Controlling speech? How?

I'm sorry if I'm not taking the opinion from a dude that thinks Nazis were socialist and not fascist. Try linking an actual independent source.. I've read the road to serfdom (when I was studying Austrian economics) and I'm struggling to see how that applies here - because he thinks pure, unregulated capitalism is a good thing?

He argues against a centrally planned economy and how it could lead to a loss of freedom, but who the hell is advocating for that? On the other side, are you one of those that believes the "Patriot Act" was actually patriotic?
 
Controlling speech? How?

I'm sorry if I'm not taking the opinion from a dude that thinks Nazis were socialist and not fascist. Try linking an actual independent source.. I've read the road to serfdom (when I was studying Austrian economics) and I'm struggling to see how that applies here - because he thinks pure, unregulated capitalism is a good thing?

He argues against a centrally planned economy and how it could lead to a loss of freedom, but who the hell is advocating for that? On the other side, are you one of those that believes the "Patriot Act" was actually patriotic?
No. I think the patriot act has yielded overreach of gov.


More recently, there are reports that dhs has been meeting monthly with social media companies. And, the ny post hunter Biden story is pretty disturbing from a gov interference in free speech perspective.

I think the distinction between fascism and socialism is tenuous. This is consistent with Hayek’s arguments relative to the benefits of economic freedoms and the pitfalls of not having it. As far as the workers party (Nazis), Hitler definitely used socialist rhetoric to sell his version of crazy.
 
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No. I think the patriot act has yielded overreach of gov.

I think the distinction between fascism and socialism is tenuous. This is consistent with Hayek’s arguments relative to the benefits of economic freedoms and the pitfalls of not having it.
There are similarities of course, but there are many distinct differences as well - the same as comparing any economic or political ideologies.
 
No. I think the patriot act has yielded overreach of gov.


More recently, there are reports that dhs has been meeting monthly with social media companies. And, the ny post hunter Biden story is pretty disturbing from a gov interference in free speech perspective.

I think the distinction between fascism and socialism is tenuous. This is consistent with Hayek’s arguments relative to the benefits of economic freedoms and the pitfalls of not having it. As far as the workers party (Nazis), Hitler definitely used socialist rhetoric to sell his version of crazy.
Must have edited while I was responding - yes he used rhetoric to sell Nazism to the working class but abandoned it before he took power. The old bait & switch technique.
 
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Must have edited while I was responding - yes he used rhetoric to sell Nazism to the working class but abandoned it before he took power. The old bait & switch technique.
Still used it after he took power. Bottom line. Socialism requires strong central control. Fascism requires strong central control. People try to make a distinction with nationalism. Historically, the socialists/communists killed more than the Nazis.China, Soviet Russia and North Korea are/were heavily nationalistic. In my opinion, functionally there is almost no difference between fascism and socialism/communism. None. There is however a big difference with classical liberalism. Hence hayek’s dedication to the socialists on the left and right. People like up argue haves and have nots, and their social brand versus the other. This shit is irrelevant. Give up control and you’e f’d. Period. You can laugh at this. But you guys are f’ing stupid. Your problem, not mine.
 
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