Not of Iowa, for all of college basketball. Let that sink in.
Wow.90,000 games over 30 years….and Iowa is the biggest upset….of course. I guess I’m mad again…
It wasn't all that long ago that many people on this board claimed CMac wasn't a D1 player and should never play. His toughness and leadership could have made all the difference today.I think people might finally realize how important Conner is to this team. His leadership, defense and passing was sorely missed today. This can be a very good team with all their pieces, but when you are missing Kris and Conner both, you better be hitting some shots and turning up the defense. They definitely need to keep their key players healthy to be competitive.
Purdue looking to tell you to hold their beerNot of Iowa, for all of college basketball. Let that sink in.
Saw SportsCenter tweeted that out.Not of Iowa, for all of college basketball. Let that sink in.
Not so muchPurdue looking to tell you to hold their beer
So Iowa loses one backup guard and suddenly we can't expect to compete with a bottom 10 (out of over THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY) team at home? Is that what you're actually arguing?It wasn't all that long ago that many people on this board claimed CMac wasn't a D1 player and should never play. His toughness and leadership could have made all the difference today.
frans teams are always soft it seemsthis team is soft. if ya have a bad shooting nite that is understandable. But defense should never have a nite off.. Their off-ball help and blocking out is grade school level.
definitely they have looked confused on D this season. Not just bad D, but confused D. Fran needs to find an assistant that teaches D. Seriously.this team is soft. if ya have a bad shooting nite that is understandable. But defense should never have a nite off.. Their off-ball help and blocking out is grade school level.
Not of Iowa, for all of college basketball. Let that sink in.
Yep...down right the most embarrassing loss ever. The basketball team will be the butt of jokes on the national stage just like the football team's offense this past season. Not a good time to be a Hawkeye.
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E. Illinois shocks Iowa as 31.5-point underdog
Eastern Illinois became the first underdog of 30 or more points to win outright in the past 30 seasons, stunning Iowa 92-83 on Wednesday as a 31.5-point underdog.www.espn.com
Barely edging out Duke (by 4 points)90,000 games over 30 years….and Iowa is the biggest upset….of course. I guess I’m mad again…
Well there ya go, this is one way Iowa’s program actually does measure up to Duke and Kentucky.I know everyone is focusing on the the first underdog of 30 or more points winning in the past 30 seasons.
However, you really should read the article because just 3 years ago, Duke was a 27.5 pt favorite and LOST. Whatever happened to their bum of a coach? And yeah, everybody remembers that game and Duke is still the butt of jokes. Not.
Oh, and look, Kentucky appears on this list, too.
Biggest Upsets in Last 30 Seasons:
DATE..............TEAM...........SPREAD......OPP.
Wed.................E. Illinois...........31.5............Iowa
Nov. 2019.......S.F. Austin........27.5............Duke
Dec. 2019.......Charl. So...........26.0...........Mizzou
Nov. 2007.......Gar.-Webb........26.0...........UK
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E. Illinois shocks Iowa as 31.5-point underdog
Eastern Illinois became the first underdog of 30 or more points to win outright in the past 30 seasons, stunning Iowa 92-83 on Wednesday as a 31.5-point underdog.www.espn.com
They are always soft because he babies his players and does not challenge them out of comfort zones. Look at PMAC he continues to think he is a guard and throws some terrible shots, but nothing changes. JMOfrans teams are always soft it seems
That Stephen F Austin team was 28-3 and finished top 100 Ken Pom.I know everyone is focusing on the the first underdog of 30 or more points winning in the past 30 seasons.
However, you really should read the article because just 3 years ago, Duke was a 27.5 pt favorite and LOST. Whatever happened to their bum of a coach? And yeah, everybody remembers that game and Duke is still the butt of jokes. Not.
Oh, and look, Kentucky appears on this list, too.
Biggest Upsets in Last 30 Seasons:
DATE..............TEAM...........SPREAD......OPP.
Wed.................E. Illinois...........31.5............Iowa
Nov. 2019.......S.F. Austin........27.5............Duke
Dec. 2019.......Charl. So...........26.0...........Mizzou
Nov. 2007.......Gar.-Webb........26.0...........UK
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E. Illinois shocks Iowa as 31.5-point underdog
Eastern Illinois became the first underdog of 30 or more points to win outright in the past 30 seasons, stunning Iowa 92-83 on Wednesday as a 31.5-point underdog.www.espn.com
No, I'm not arguing that we can't expect to compete without CMac or that we shouldn't be surprised or upset about the loss. Not in the least. The only very small point I was making is that CMac is the toughest guy on the team, and likely would have made the difference in avoiding this embarrassing loss. There was no leadership or toughness on floor against EIU. Perkins, Ulis, and Rebraca should take a long look in the mirror.So Iowa loses one backup guard and suddenly we can't expect to compete with a bottom 10 (out of over THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY) team at home? Is that what you're actually arguing?
Look, upsets happen. But if you're a borderline Top 25 team and you can't overcome one injury to a backup to avoid suffering arguably the most humiliating regular season loss in the history of college basketball, then that is an utter and complete indictment of the entire staff and its recruiting, coaching, development, rotation, and scholarship distribution.
Arguing that we need a healthy Connor (and/or Kris) to compete with the likes of Purdue, Duke, etc...is one thing. But arguing that without them we shouldn't be surprised or upset at the most embarrassing loss imaginable against a historically bad opponent at home is disingenuous at best, and an outright willful, black-and-gold-tinged disregard for reality at worst.
Amen. Iowa should never lose a game to a team like this. EVER.So Iowa loses one backup guard and suddenly we can't expect to compete with a bottom 10 (out of over THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY) team at home? Is that what you're actually arguing?
Look, upsets happen. But if you're a borderline Top 25 team and you can't overcome one injury to a backup to avoid suffering arguably the most humiliating regular season loss in the history of college basketball, then that is an utter and complete indictment of the entire staff and its recruiting, coaching, development, rotation, and scholarship distribution.
Arguing that we need a healthy Connor (and/or Kris) to compete with the likes of Purdue, Duke, etc...is one thing. But arguing that without them we shouldn't be surprised or upset at the most embarrassing loss imaginable against a historically bad opponent at home is disingenuous at best, and an outright willful, black-and-gold-tinged disregard for reality at worst.
K. Cool. 😁 And totally agree, Connor brings a certain mental toughness....that (as we both acknowledge) Iowa should NEVER EVER EVER need to beat EIU.No, I'm not arguing that we can't expect to compete without CMac or that we shouldn't be surprised or upset about the loss. Not in the least. The only very small point I was making is that CMac is the toughest guy on the team, and likely would have made the difference in avoiding this embarrassing loss. There was no leadership or toughness on floor against EIU. Perkins, Ulis, and Rebraca should take a long look in the mirror.
He played 41 mins and had a great game in the Wisconsin loss but wasn't much of a factor in the Duke and TCU losses. He's a much better player this year but by no means a savior. Hawks need Kris back asapI think people might finally realize how important Conner is to this team. His leadership, defense and passing was sorely missed today. This can be a very good team with all their pieces, but when you are missing Kris and Conner both, you better be hitting some shots and turning up the defense. They definitely need to keep their key players healthy to be competitive.
If it were Fran that missed game and Connor that played/Coached IOWA wins big….I think people might finally realize how important Conner is to this team. His leadership, defense and passing was sorely missed today. This can be a very good team with all their pieces, but when you are missing Kris and Conner both, you better be hitting some shots and turning up the defense. They definitely need to keep their key players healthy to be competitive.
This is very well summarized….So Iowa loses one backup guard and suddenly we can't expect to compete with a bottom 10 (out of over THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY) team at home? Is that what you're actually arguing?
Look, upsets happen. But if you're a borderline Top 25 team and you can't overcome one injury to a backup to avoid suffering arguably the most humiliating regular season loss in the history of college basketball, then that is an utter and complete indictment of the entire staff and its recruiting, coaching, development, rotation, and scholarship distribution.
Arguing that we need a healthy Connor (and/or Kris) to compete with the likes of Purdue, Duke, etc...is one thing. But arguing that without them we shouldn't be surprised or upset at the most embarrassing loss imaginable against a historically bad opponent at home is disingenuous at best, and an outright willful, black-and-gold-tinged disregard for reality at worst.
Absolutely not true. This is based on point spreads which is a gambling line. Has nothing to do with if it is the worst college basketball upset in the last 30 years. Heck it's not the worst loss in the last 3 rears. Stephen F Austin beat Duke in 2019 at Duke ending a 150 game winning streak against non-con teams at home, Going into the game, the odds had SFA at 85/1, or +8500. These were the highest odds over a five-year period for what ended up being a winning team in a game of NCAA Basketball. Iowa's loss was not even close to this.Not of Iowa, for all of college basketball. Let that sink in.
I think iowa needs to become fanatical on the defensive end of the court. Otherwise iowa has a decently high ceiling this year, maybe like sweet sixteen type if everything falls right. But they also have a ridiculously low floor where you lose to the likes of Richmond and Eastern Illinois.Wow. Time for all you naysayers to find another team to cheer for. I know a lot of you will say fans have a right to complain, but fan is short for fanatic and the meaning of fanatic is "a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal"
It doesn't say a thing about the right to p*ss and moan about everything. That's more like being a curmudgeon so good luck to you and your new team.
Yes they were. Iowa was a 31.5 point favorite going into the Eastern Illinois game. Duke was a 28.5 favorite against SFA. People should do a little research before posting.Absolutely not true. This is based on point spreads which is a gambling line. Has nothing to do with if it is the worst college basketball upset in the last 30 years. Heck it's not the worst loss in the last 3 rears. Stephen F Austin beat Duke in 2019 at Duke ending a 150 game winning streak against non-con teams at home, Going into the game, the odds had SFA at 85/1, or +8500. These were the highest odds over a five-year period for what ended up being a winning team in a game of NCAA Basketball. Iowa's loss was not even close to this.
People should do a little research before believing the first thing they read.