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the loss is the biggest upset in the last 30 years

Yep...down right the most embarrassing loss ever. The basketball team will be the butt of jokes on the national stage just like the football team's offense this past season. Not a good time to be a Hawkeye.
 
I think people might finally realize how important Conner is to this team. His leadership, defense and passing was sorely missed today. This can be a very good team with all their pieces, but when you are missing Kris and Conner both, you better be hitting some shots and turning up the defense. They definitely need to keep their key players healthy to be competitive.
 
I think people might finally realize how important Conner is to this team. His leadership, defense and passing was sorely missed today. This can be a very good team with all their pieces, but when you are missing Kris and Conner both, you better be hitting some shots and turning up the defense. They definitely need to keep their key players healthy to be competitive.
It wasn't all that long ago that many people on this board claimed CMac wasn't a D1 player and should never play. His toughness and leadership could have made all the difference today.
 
It wasn't all that long ago that many people on this board claimed CMac wasn't a D1 player and should never play. His toughness and leadership could have made all the difference today.
So Iowa loses one backup guard and suddenly we can't expect to compete with a bottom 10 (out of over THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY) team at home? Is that what you're actually arguing?

Look, upsets happen. But if you're a borderline Top 25 team and you can't overcome one injury to a backup to avoid suffering arguably the most humiliating regular season loss in the history of college basketball, then that is an utter and complete indictment of the entire staff and its recruiting, coaching, development, rotation, and scholarship distribution.

Arguing that we need a healthy Connor (and/or Kris) to compete with the likes of Purdue, Duke, etc...is one thing. But arguing that without them we shouldn't be surprised or upset at the most embarrassing loss imaginable against a historically bad opponent at home is disingenuous at best, and an outright willful, black-and-gold-tinged disregard for reality at worst.
 
this team is soft. if ya have a bad shooting nite that is understandable. But defense should never have a nite off.. Their off-ball help and blocking out is grade school level.
definitely they have looked confused on D this season. Not just bad D, but confused D. Fran needs to find an assistant that teaches D. Seriously.
 
Not of Iowa, for all of college basketball. Let that sink in.

Yep...down right the most embarrassing loss ever. The basketball team will be the butt of jokes on the national stage just like the football team's offense this past season. Not a good time to be a Hawkeye.


I know everyone is focusing on the the first underdog of 30 or more points winning in the past 30 seasons.

However, you really should read the article because just 3 years ago, Duke was a 27.5 pt favorite and LOST. Whatever happened to their bum of a coach? And yeah, everybody remembers that game and Duke is still the butt of jokes. Not.

Oh, and look, Kentucky appears on this list, too.

Biggest Upsets in Last 30 Seasons:

DATE..............TEAM...........SPREAD......OPP.

Wed.................E. Illinois...........31.5............Iowa
Nov. 2019.......S.F. Austin........27.5............Duke
Dec. 2019.......Charl. So...........26.0...........Mizzou
Nov. 2007.......Gar.-Webb........26.0...........UK



 
To give up 90 points to a team averaging 69 for the season is horrible. This teams record WAS 3 wins, 9 losses. The only guy who played hard and smart was Rebraca. The rest of them should be ashamed to put on the uniform. It was among the worst losses I have seen an Iowa team in watching Iowa Hawkeye sports for 60 years. And I've seen some bad, bad, games. Lickliter never even did this.
Listening to Jess (Homer Boy) Settles, our players are so good, play such great defense, are so smart, you would have thought we won by 50 points. What a joke. He should be embarrassed by the way he kisses ass all games long.
 
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I know everyone is focusing on the the first underdog of 30 or more points winning in the past 30 seasons.

However, you really should read the article because just 3 years ago, Duke was a 27.5 pt favorite and LOST. Whatever happened to their bum of a coach? And yeah, everybody remembers that game and Duke is still the butt of jokes. Not.

Oh, and look, Kentucky appears on this list, too.

Biggest Upsets in Last 30 Seasons:

DATE..............TEAM...........SPREAD......OPP.

Wed.................E. Illinois...........31.5............Iowa
Nov. 2019.......S.F. Austin........27.5............Duke
Dec. 2019.......Charl. So...........26.0...........Mizzou
Nov. 2007.......Gar.-Webb........26.0...........UK



Well there ya go, this is one way Iowa’s program actually does measure up to Duke and Kentucky.

Like dressing up a turd into a turd sandwich :)
 
I know everyone is focusing on the the first underdog of 30 or more points winning in the past 30 seasons.

However, you really should read the article because just 3 years ago, Duke was a 27.5 pt favorite and LOST. Whatever happened to their bum of a coach? And yeah, everybody remembers that game and Duke is still the butt of jokes. Not.

Oh, and look, Kentucky appears on this list, too.

Biggest Upsets in Last 30 Seasons:

DATE..............TEAM...........SPREAD......OPP.

Wed.................E. Illinois...........31.5............Iowa
Nov. 2019.......S.F. Austin........27.5............Duke
Dec. 2019.......Charl. So...........26.0...........Mizzou
Nov. 2007.......Gar.-Webb........26.0...........UK



That Stephen F Austin team was 28-3 and finished top 100 Ken Pom.
Had Iowa lost to a team in the top 150 your comparison would be more applicable.
They lost to a team that was not even in the top 350.


Apples and oranges
 
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So Iowa loses one backup guard and suddenly we can't expect to compete with a bottom 10 (out of over THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY) team at home? Is that what you're actually arguing?

Look, upsets happen. But if you're a borderline Top 25 team and you can't overcome one injury to a backup to avoid suffering arguably the most humiliating regular season loss in the history of college basketball, then that is an utter and complete indictment of the entire staff and its recruiting, coaching, development, rotation, and scholarship distribution.

Arguing that we need a healthy Connor (and/or Kris) to compete with the likes of Purdue, Duke, etc...is one thing. But arguing that without them we shouldn't be surprised or upset at the most embarrassing loss imaginable against a historically bad opponent at home is disingenuous at best, and an outright willful, black-and-gold-tinged disregard for reality at worst.
No, I'm not arguing that we can't expect to compete without CMac or that we shouldn't be surprised or upset about the loss. Not in the least. The only very small point I was making is that CMac is the toughest guy on the team, and likely would have made the difference in avoiding this embarrassing loss. There was no leadership or toughness on floor against EIU. Perkins, Ulis, and Rebraca should take a long look in the mirror.
 
So Iowa loses one backup guard and suddenly we can't expect to compete with a bottom 10 (out of over THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY) team at home? Is that what you're actually arguing?

Look, upsets happen. But if you're a borderline Top 25 team and you can't overcome one injury to a backup to avoid suffering arguably the most humiliating regular season loss in the history of college basketball, then that is an utter and complete indictment of the entire staff and its recruiting, coaching, development, rotation, and scholarship distribution.

Arguing that we need a healthy Connor (and/or Kris) to compete with the likes of Purdue, Duke, etc...is one thing. But arguing that without them we shouldn't be surprised or upset at the most embarrassing loss imaginable against a historically bad opponent at home is disingenuous at best, and an outright willful, black-and-gold-tinged disregard for reality at worst.
Amen. Iowa should never lose a game to a team like this. EVER.

This loss was shades of Lickliter's last year, to the likes of Duquesne. Completely inexcusable.
 
I saw a story that said there have been 559 games in which one team was favored by 30 or more points. The record for the dogs was 1-558. Congratulations to Eastern Illinois for exposing our weaknesses. 92 points scored against Iowa is truly obscene.
 
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No, I'm not arguing that we can't expect to compete without CMac or that we shouldn't be surprised or upset about the loss. Not in the least. The only very small point I was making is that CMac is the toughest guy on the team, and likely would have made the difference in avoiding this embarrassing loss. There was no leadership or toughness on floor against EIU. Perkins, Ulis, and Rebraca should take a long look in the mirror.
K. Cool. 😁 And totally agree, Connor brings a certain mental toughness....that (as we both acknowledge) Iowa should NEVER EVER EVER need to beat EIU.
 
I think people might finally realize how important Conner is to this team. His leadership, defense and passing was sorely missed today. This can be a very good team with all their pieces, but when you are missing Kris and Conner both, you better be hitting some shots and turning up the defense. They definitely need to keep their key players healthy to be competitive.
He played 41 mins and had a great game in the Wisconsin loss but wasn't much of a factor in the Duke and TCU losses. He's a much better player this year but by no means a savior. Hawks need Kris back asap
 
This loss basically means we have to win two games to make up for it. If iowa would have won against eastern Illinois, then I think 10 and 10 in the big ten gets you in for sure. But now I wouldn’t even feel comfortable going 11 and 9, if some of those wins aren’t against Purdue or other top teams.
 
i swear many of you are showing the lack of respect to opponent that the team did Wed. night...

bad loss, hell yeah. but my goodness we all up in arms over one game. Yeah, it will hurt come March, but I've seen #1 Ranked Teams and even a #4 ranked Iowa team lose a game to sub divisional schools

1982 #1 UVa and 3 time National POTY Ralph Sampson to NAIA Chaminade
1988 #4 Iowa to UC Riverside a Div II School (Roy, Eddie, B.J. - yeah that Iowa team)

yeah, i'm getting old.

all it takes is an off night and the opponent getting hot which is exactly what we saw. Should it happen? No, does it happen... yeah...

That's why you play the games.
 
Yes, you just showed it has happened. But 1982 and 1988 are over 34 years ago. So it hasn't happened in a loooong damn time. Most of the people on this website weren't born the last time it happened. It is a big deal and shouldn't be blown off as no big deal. I still remember both the games you mentioned and they are still a stain on both programs.

All it takes is for Division 1 scholarship players to not take the opposing team seriously and the coach falling asleep at the helm and it can happen. Damn few coaches have let it EVER happen.
 
I think people might finally realize how important Conner is to this team. His leadership, defense and passing was sorely missed today. This can be a very good team with all their pieces, but when you are missing Kris and Conner both, you better be hitting some shots and turning up the defense. They definitely need to keep their key players healthy to be competitive.
If it were Fran that missed game and Connor that played/Coached IOWA wins big….
 
So Iowa loses one backup guard and suddenly we can't expect to compete with a bottom 10 (out of over THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY) team at home? Is that what you're actually arguing?

Look, upsets happen. But if you're a borderline Top 25 team and you can't overcome one injury to a backup to avoid suffering arguably the most humiliating regular season loss in the history of college basketball, then that is an utter and complete indictment of the entire staff and its recruiting, coaching, development, rotation, and scholarship distribution.

Arguing that we need a healthy Connor (and/or Kris) to compete with the likes of Purdue, Duke, etc...is one thing. But arguing that without them we shouldn't be surprised or upset at the most embarrassing loss imaginable against a historically bad opponent at home is disingenuous at best, and an outright willful, black-and-gold-tinged disregard for reality at worst.
This is very well summarized….

”disregard for reality….”
 
Wow. Time for all you naysayers to find another team to cheer for. I know a lot of you will say fans have a right to complain, but fan is short for fanatic and the meaning of fanatic is "a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal"
It doesn't say a thing about the right to p*ss and moan about everything. That's more like being a curmudgeon so good luck to you and your new team.
 
Not of Iowa, for all of college basketball. Let that sink in.
Absolutely not true. This is based on point spreads which is a gambling line. Has nothing to do with if it is the worst college basketball upset in the last 30 years. Heck it's not the worst loss in the last 3 rears. Stephen F Austin beat Duke in 2019 at Duke ending a 150 game winning streak against non-con teams at home, Going into the game, the odds had SFA at 85/1, or +8500. These were the highest odds over a five-year period for what ended up being a winning team in a game of NCAA Basketball. Iowa's loss was not even close to this.
People should do a little research before believing the first thing they read.
 
Wow. Time for all you naysayers to find another team to cheer for. I know a lot of you will say fans have a right to complain, but fan is short for fanatic and the meaning of fanatic is "a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal"
It doesn't say a thing about the right to p*ss and moan about everything. That's more like being a curmudgeon so good luck to you and your new team.
I think iowa needs to become fanatical on the defensive end of the court. Otherwise iowa has a decently high ceiling this year, maybe like sweet sixteen type if everything falls right. But they also have a ridiculously low floor where you lose to the likes of Richmond and Eastern Illinois.
 
Absolutely not true. This is based on point spreads which is a gambling line. Has nothing to do with if it is the worst college basketball upset in the last 30 years. Heck it's not the worst loss in the last 3 rears. Stephen F Austin beat Duke in 2019 at Duke ending a 150 game winning streak against non-con teams at home, Going into the game, the odds had SFA at 85/1, or +8500. These were the highest odds over a five-year period for what ended up being a winning team in a game of NCAA Basketball. Iowa's loss was not even close to this.
People should do a little research before believing the first thing they read.
Yes they were. Iowa was a 31.5 point favorite going into the Eastern Illinois game. Duke was a 28.5 favorite against SFA. People should do a little research before posting.
 
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