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The Navy’s new, futuristic destroyer Zumwalt is finally at sea. A lot is on the line.

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This is the largest destroyer ever built for the U.S. Navy
The Zumwalt is a $4 billion dollar stealth destroyer that is now out on sea trials. The ship was built at the Bath Iron Works in Maine. (United States Navy)
The Navy’s futuristic destroyer USS Zumwalt traveled down the Kennebec River in Maine on Monday, maneuvering toward the Atlantic Ocean. It’s a path that many vessels have taken after being built at the Bath Iron Works shipyard, but it also signals the start of something significant: sea trials that will begin to reveal the unusually designed ship’s abilities afloat.

The long anticipated 610-foot-long, 15,480-ton destroyer has an unconventional pyramid-shaped hull that slopes out at the bottom with a stealthy “tumblehome” design, rather than sloping in like most warships. That should make it harder to find on radar, but also has long raised questions about how stable it will be when facing tough seas.

The vessel cost more than $4 billion to design and build, and is the first in a $12.3 billion, three-ship class named after Adm. Elmo Zumwalt, who served as chief of naval operations during the latter years of the Vietnam War. It also includes a new all-electric power design in which the ship’s gas-turbine engines power generators, rather than propellers, providing it with electrical energy that could be used to power high-tech weapons never before seen at sea. The propellers are powered from the electricity through electromagnets, conserving energy for other tasks.

[Hull-aballoo: New Navy destroyer’s seaworthiness questioned]

As this story notes, the Zumwalt class was originally supposed to include 32 ships. As its cost grew, however, some senior Navy officials tried to kill the program. Instead, it was shrunk to three ships: The USS Zumwalt, the USS Michael Monsoor (named after a Navy SEAL who was killed in Iraq and earned the Medal of Honor) and the USS Lyndon B. Johnson (named after the 36th U.S. president). Navy officials were considering cancelling the third ship, according to several reports this fall.

The Zumwalt, christened last year, also is to be a test-bed for one of the Navy’s most futuristic weapons, an electromagnetic rail gun under development by the Office of Naval Research. It uses electromagnetic pulses to launch projectiles at Mach 7, or seven times the speed of sound, at targets up to 110 miles away. It is commanded by Navy Capt. James Kirk, who shares his name with the famous “Star Trek” captain.

Both the Associated Press and the Navy released images of the first Zumwalt heading to sea for the first time. Check them out here:

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The first Zumwalt-class destroyer, the PCU Zumwalt, leaves the Kennebec River, in Maine on Monday, Dec. 7, 2015. The futuristic ship is headed out to sea for the first time to undergo sea trials. (AP Photo/Robert F. Bukaty)
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The first Zumwalt-class destroyer, the largest ever built for the U.S. Navy, heads down the Kennebec River after leaving Bath Iron Works, Monday, Dec. 7, 2015, in Bath, Maine. The ship is headed out to sea for the first time to undergo sea trials. (AP Photo/Robert F. Bukaty)
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The future USS Zumwalt is underway for the first time conducting at-sea tests and trials on the Kennebeck River. The multimission ship will provide independent forward presence and deterrence, support special operations forces, and operate as an integral part of joint and combined expeditionary forces. (U.S. Navy photo /Released)
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The future USS Zumwalt is underway for the first time conducting at-sea tests and trials on the Kennebeck River on Dec. 7. (Photo by U.S. Navy/General Dynamics Bath Iron Works via Getty Images)

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So if the rail gun works, it effectively is the modern version of a battleship, right? 600 footer...

The Navy sure has a lot on the line recently...rail gun, EMALS launching on the Gerald Ford. Big dollar tech that has to work and we really don't know for certain it will work.
 
So if the rail gun works, it effectively is the modern version of a battleship, right? 600 footer...

The Navy sure has a lot on the line recently...rail gun, EMALS launching on the Gerald Ford. Big dollar tech that has to work and we really don't know for certain it will work.

The rail gun is basically in sea trials with the Zumwalt. But if it doesn't work they'll just replace the turret with a standard cannon.

EMALS is a fairly straightforward system, and should be more reliable than a steam catapult. Small chance of Iceman and Maverick getting caught up there alone again.
 
It looks like something I would have built with my legos when I was 5. Hope it works well.
 
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4 billion... probably 40 billion. For a f*cking boat that kills people better than before. Yay! I guess we'll need 400 of them for the huge naval battles we'll be having... with no one.

The South China Sea nations called, saying that China is building islands out of coral reefs (nothing basically) in disputed territorial waters to steal their resources of oil and natural gas - that can only be protected by naval assets.

Another example is there's a reason why India has aircraft carriers (and China is bringing on online too), and a bunch of other nations we wouldn't think need them that have them. It's because there are potentially valid threats to commerce and sovereignty out there, and these countries need protection naval forces can provide.
 
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I am no tree hugger but oil and gas isn't going to be a big deal in 20 years.

Waste of money
 
For us, you might be right. For China though...wasn't it recently reported that their carbon emissions were being reported much less than what is really happening (meaning, they are still burning up coal/gas etc big time)?

That's a huge country that they simply will not be able to get off oil and gas quickly, maybe ever.
 
The South China Sea nations called, saying that China is building islands out of coral reefs (nothing basically) in disputed territorial waters to steal their resources of oil and natural gas - that can only be protected by naval assets.

Another example is there's a reason why India has aircraft carriers (and China is bringing on online too), and a bunch of other nations we wouldn't think need them that have them. It's because there are potentially valid threats to commerce and sovereignty out there, and these countries need protection naval forces can provide.
Yeah... the second those ships start shooting at each other...
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The South China Sea nations called, saying that China is building islands out of coral reefs (nothing basically) in disputed territorial waters to steal their resources of oil and natural gas - that can only be protected by naval assets.

Another example is there's a reason why India has aircraft carriers (and China is bringing on online too), and a bunch of other nations we wouldn't think need them that have them. It's because there are potentially valid threats to commerce and sovereignty out there, and these countries need protection naval forces can provide.
That sounds good, lets encourage other countries to do this. Maybe this is really a sales call and we could get our $4 billion back?
 
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The South China Sea nations called, saying that China is building islands out of coral reefs (nothing basically) in disputed territorial waters to steal their resources of oil and natural gas - that can only be protected by naval assets.

Another example is there's a reason why India has aircraft carriers (and China is bringing on online too), and a bunch of other nations we wouldn't think need them that have them. It's because there are potentially valid threats to commerce and sovereignty out there, and these countries need protection naval forces can provide.
Any comment Ciggy like is automatically a bad post.
No, this is needed to kill more people, nothing more.
 
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Since we probably only need one thread about new destroyers in the US Navy, I saw a story on CNN today about people worked up over a new littoral destroyer named after Andrew Jackson. Just let it go. He was a president. Yes he wasn't a model of social justice, but it isn't like they named it the Bull Conner.
 
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