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*****The official 2024 Presidential election day and results thread*****

This has been one of the "nice" parts of the Trump era, sort of the racial desegregation-ish of the two main parties.

I think you are right, and it has massive consequences. Not saying clearly one way or another, but we could be seeing quite a realignment.
 
Looks like negativity beats positivity. But let's be honest, even if she did run ad after ad about rape and coups it probably wouldn't have mattered. The nation seems to be on a collision course to reelect Trump.
The nation will survive, we are bigger than a president. This is about the border and rejecting social progressive issues,
 
A few thoughts from a Harris/Walz voter:

1. The Democratic Party won't run a woman for a very, very long time. In fact, I'm willing to wager the first woman President will be a Republican.

2. The Dem's never go in for the kill. Ever. With all of the crazy sh*t Trump has said, the only ad they continually ran highlighting this was him saying "I'm rich as hell."

3. Operation Everyone Vote worked perfectly, but not for the Dems.
 
Yep. But it looks like his inroads with Latino and AA are real in Georgia, so it will be massive raw count for Harris, but we'll see if she holds Biden's margins.
Puerto Ricans voted for him overwhelmingly in CFL, even after the trash island comment. The fact that Black and Latino men hesitate to vote for a woman is something that the dems don't want to come to terms with.
 
It’s depressing. Rapist. Meh. Felon. Meh. Hung with a pedophile. Meh. Bankrupted 6 businesses. Meh. Deteriorating old man. Meh. Threatens media. Meh. Proud to take away women’s rights. Meh. Adds billions to the debt. Meh. Wonders if we could inject disinfectant to kill covid. Meh. Considers using the military on Americans. Meh. Steals top secret documents. Meh. Thinks he can just ignore the Constitution. Meh.

What is wrong with this country? It’s got an illness.
Meh.
 
It’s depressing. Rapist. Meh. Felon. Meh. Hung with a pedophile. Meh. Bankrupted 6 businesses. Meh. Deteriorating old man. Meh. Threatens media. Meh. Proud to take away women’s rights. Meh. Adds billions to the debt. Meh. Wonders if we could inject disinfectant to kill covid. Meh. Considers using the military on Americans. Meh. Steals top secret documents. Meh. Thinks he can just ignore the Constitution. Meh.

What is wrong with this country? It’s got an illness.
I agree, but people like me have tried to tell you libs how the average person thinks. You guys refuse to listen and Democrats refuse to change.

Right now, Donald Trump is in a better position to win this election. Democrats have two choices: 1. Continue to label all people who don’t think like them “stupid.” 2. Figure out how Donald Trump is conning average people and learn how to play the game.

Most people are stupid and don’t pay attention. Democrats don’t know how to reach them; Republicans do.
 
It’s depressing. Rapist. Meh. Felon. Meh. Hung with a pedophile. Meh. Bankrupted 6 businesses. Meh. Deteriorating old man. Meh. Threatens media. Meh. Proud to take away women’s rights. Meh. Adds billions to the debt. Meh. Wonders if we could inject disinfectant to kill covid. Meh. Considers using the military on Americans. Meh. Steals top secret documents. Meh. Thinks he can just ignore the Constitution. Meh.

What is wrong with this country? It’s got an illness.
Maybe we should talk about how the Democrats can’t field a better alternative?
 
What we now know is that Selzer is a massive fraud. She could have posted the details of her poll so she could realistically point to them afterwards to justify how she could have been so off. But she kept the internals proprietary so now all we are left to believe is that her poll this year was a big load of horse crap. She clearly was trying to gain favor, clicks, or invitations to the elite cocktail parties and not conducting a poll that had any accuracy whatsoever.
 
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Looks like negativity beats positivity. But let's be honest, even if she did run ad after ad about rape and coups it probably wouldn't have mattered. The nation seems to be on a collision course to reelect Trump.

No. We were on a collision course for different leadership than we have gotten the past four years.

This election is an explicit condemnation of the Biden-Harris Administration.
 
A few thoughts from a Harris/Walz voter:

1. The Democratic Party won't run a woman for a very, very long time. In fact, I'm willing to wager the first woman President will be a Republican.

2. The Dem's never go in for the kill. Ever. With all of the crazy sh*t Trump has said, the only ad they continually ran highlighting this was him saying "I'm rich as hell."

3. Operation Everyone Vote worked perfectly, but not for the Dems.
I thought Nikki Haley would have won if she was the candidate. The news media and ads did talk about him being a felon and causing insurrection. There’s no third party for where most of us fall, so many sided with the border issues and anti progressive social issues
 
What we now know is that Selzer is a massive fraud. She could have posted the details of her poll so she could realistically point to them afterwards to justify how she could have been so off. But she kept the internals proprietary so now all we are left to believe is that her poll this year was a big load of horse crap. She clearly was trying to gain favor, clicks, invitation to the elite cocktail parties and not conducting a poll that had any accuracy whatsoever.

Or she just messed up. Doesn’t have to be a conspiracy.
 
I agree, but people like me have tried to tell you libs how the average person thinks. You guys refuse to listen and Democrats refuse to change.

Right now, Donald Trump is in a better position to win this election. Democrats have two choices: 1. Continue to label all people who don’t think like them “stupid.” 2. Figure out how Donald Trump is conning average people and learn how to play the game.

Most people are stupid and don’t pay attention. Democrats don’t know how to reach them; Republicans do.
If Dems have to play the conning game, which looks abundantly clear they will, then what exactly is the point?
 
A few thoughts from a Harris/Walz voter:

1. The Democratic Party won't run a woman for a very, very long time. In fact, I'm willing to wager the first woman President will be a Republican.

2. The Dem's never go in for the kill. Ever. With all of the crazy sh*t Trump has said, the only ad they continually ran highlighting this was him saying "I'm rich as hell."

3. Operation Everyone Vote worked perfectly, but not for the Dems.
Disagree. Harris is just a shitty candidate. There's a reason she went nowhere in the dem primaries in 2020
 
If you got car needing an AGM battery I’d advise pulling the trigger on that soon. 20% of 245 is still almost $50. Admittedly I don’t know how high the prices will raise, but at the tim it won’t matter.
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And that is a problem with Democratic messaging. All the crazy shit Trump has said and not one TV ad highlighting any of it. I saw ad after ad after ad showing Kamala being interviewed and saying how every transgender prisoner should get taxpayer surgery. That shit is very effective. The only ad highlighting something Trump said was his “I’m rich as hell.”

Oh, and Iowa just went to Trump.
You’re kidding…right? The media went on ad naseum about his trials, etc.
 
Trump probably wins this. What I don't understand is how his fundraising dried up with the exception of billionaires, his rallies became broken down ghost towns, and he never even bothered to put together a real ground game, but somehow won?
That's the most delusional post that I've seen in a long, long time. Congrats.
 
Trump probably wins this. What I don't understand is how his fundraising dried up with the exception of billionaires, his rallies became broken down ghost towns, and he never even bothered to put together a real ground game, but somehow won?
Actual grass roots vs democrat astroturf. You still don't realize you are the party of the elitist billionaires... wake up, Huey.
 
And that is a problem with Democratic messaging. All the crazy shit Trump has said and not one TV ad highlighting any of it. I saw ad after ad after ad showing Kamala being interviewed and saying how every transgender prisoner should get taxpayer surgery. That shit is very effective. The only ad highlighting something Trump said was his “I’m rich as hell.”

Oh, and Iowa just went to Trump.
Exactly. An ad that only displays his Truth Social posts would even be effective.
 
Trump probably wins this. What I don't understand is how his fundraising dried up with the exception of billionaires, his rallies became broken down ghost towns, and he never even bothered to put together a real ground game, but somehow won?
What I don’t understand is why did so many people give Kamala any money. Talk about a huge waste. By the way I loved the live look in at her party earlier and it was just a bunch of non white people with most of them dancing.
 
Or she just messed up. Doesn’t have to be a conspiracy.
Right now, the most accurate Iowa pollster in history, I am to believe, was off by 12%. That isnt messing up.

As I said, had she released her internals, she could then easily justify how such a mistake was made. Since she did not, and she was so far off, one has to suspect it was intentional.

She sure got her moment in the limelight that's for certain.
 
Trump probably wins this. What I don't understand is how his fundraising dried up with the exception of billionaires, his rallies became broken down ghost towns, and he never even bothered to put together a real ground game, but somehow won?
Because he didn't need to because democrats can't reach the middle class non sophisticated voters
 
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