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The Rapture

Nov 28, 2010
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This is like the red witch in GoT. If you saw the smoke baby, you would believe right? If all the religious folk disappeared, wouldn't rational skeptics believe? And if we did, wouldn't we be saved?
 
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This is like the red witch in GoT. If you saw the smoke baby, you would believe right? If all the religious folk disappeared, wouldn't rational skeptics believe? And if we did, wouldn't we be saved?
Well, you might believe but did you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior?

Knowing that there's some truth behind the myth doesn't mean that particular God or religion is the best one. Let's have a look at the other candidates.

Auditions. Platforms. Maybe some debates.

I mean what can each god do for me?

And let's not forget Lucifer. He's had some bad PR, but is it true?
 
Well, you might believe but did you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior?

Knowing that there's some truth behind the myth doesn't mean that particular God or religion is the best one. Let's have a look at the other candidates.

Auditions. Platforms. Maybe some debates.

I mean what can each god do for me?

And let's not forget Lucifer. He's had some bad PR, but is it true?
Well if all the followers of one religion were gone and everyone else was left I would declare them the winner.

As for the auditions, platforms, and debates we are currently in that state.
 
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Well, you might believe but did you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior?

Knowing that there's some truth behind the myth doesn't mean that particular God or religion is the best one. Let's have a look at the other candidates.

Auditions. Platforms. Maybe some debates.

I mean what can each god do for me?

And let's not forget Lucifer. He's had some bad PR, but is it true?
To my limited knowledge Christianity is the only religion that has a rapture doctrine. So if I knew or thought the rapture happened, I would not only believe Christianity was basically true, but that the evangelical Protestants had it right.

As this would be the first time I witnesses any god like activity, i would not be inclined to wait around for Thor to make me a counter offer. I'd just accept JC and proceed on those grounds. I'm hazy on all the details but after the rapture isn't their limited time left, say a few years before we all burn anyway? We can't have too long a debate.
 
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To my limited knowledge Christianity is the only religion that has a rapture doctrine. So if I knew or thought the rapture happened, I would not only believe Christianity was basically true, but that the evangelical Protestants had it right.

As this would be the first time I witnesses any god like activity, i would not be inclined to wait around for Thor to make me a counter offer. I'd just accept JC and proceed on those grounds. I'm hazy on all the details but after the rapture isn't their limited time left, say a few years before we all burn anyway? We can't have too long a debate.
Would you change your lifestyle, too? I'm no expert but the evangelists, on average, seem to be the most aggressive homophobes. So if they are right...?
 
Would you change your lifestyle, too? I'm no expert but the evangelists, on average, seem to be the most aggressive homophobes. So if they are right...?
Sure. If I had what I thought was proof that the bible was true, I'd make all sorts of changes. Probably starting with reading the bible. Presumably there would be lots of copies going unused.
 
I just looked up the HBO series The Leftovers. Apparently it's returning some time. But they are relocating it to Texas (?!) and adding a black family, one of whom is a felon. Of course.
 
Did you like it? I failed to fall in love.
It was borderline, but I stuck with it and didn't regret it.

If I had discovered they weren't continuing it, it wouldn't have bothered me too much. But there are a lot of shows like that these days. Good enough to keep my interest while they're on, but too few episodes per season and too much time between seasons to keep me caring. Even a show as good as Game of Thrones is pushing the limit with only 10 shows per season. While it's on, I could easily watch 2 episodes each Sunday, and if they never skipped a week, I think I'd still feel that way.

OTOH, I'm sort of glad True Detective had a lot of time between seasons. It will make it easier to take that it's not the same cast. There will be comparisons anyway, but at least they won't be fresh comparisons. The first season will be hard to follow.
 
To my limited knowledge Christianity is the only religion that has a rapture doctrine. So if I knew or thought the rapture happened, I would not only believe Christianity was basically true, but that the evangelical Protestants had it right.

As this would be the first time I witnesses any god like activity, i would not be inclined to wait around for Thor to make me a counter offer. I'd just accept JC and proceed on those grounds. I'm hazy on all the details but after the rapture isn't their limited time left, say a few years before we all burn anyway? We can't have too long a debate.

I'm not so sure. I would be thinking that just because rapture works doesn't necessarily mean it's a good deal for the raptured.
 
What if they held a Rapture and all the evangelists were left behind. Would they re-evaluate?


Me thinks you had to change the question because natural decided to convert due to the rapture. Money says he wouldn't be alone by a large margin, and people like the OP would be fools to admit they weren't wrong.

Btw, after the rapture you should probably figure it out as it doesn't turn out well for non believers.
 
I'm not so sure. I would be thinking that just because rapture works doesn't necessarily mean it's a good deal for the raptured.
That's intriguing. So do you think Yahweh is some sort of soul eater? Maybe Satan is sort of like Promethius trying to help humanity and getting punished for the effort. If I can, I'll let you know when I meet him.
 
I'm not so sure. I would be thinking that just because rapture works doesn't necessarily mean it's a good deal for the raptured.
Good point. Just because people are gone doesn't mean it was God that did it or, if He did, that God is a good guy. Even the argument that it was necessarily the God of the New Testament isn't proved.

Among alternatives are that God and Lucifer are taking turns. Kind of like picking players for 2 teams in the schoolyard.

If that's the case - if they are picking teams - you have to wonder what the "game" is. Why would Satan pick "players" with a nasty streak, while God picks subservient nice guys? What sort of game makes those "skills" of comparable value?

Maybe it's like basketball and God is picking the best outside shooters while Lucifer is picking the top talent in the paint.
 
Good point. Just because people are gone doesn't mean it was God that did it or, if He did, that God is a good guy. Even the argument that it was necessarily the God of the New Testament isn't proved.

Among alternatives are that God and Lucifer are taking turns. Kind of like picking players for 2 teams in the schoolyard.

If that's the case - if they are picking teams - you have to wonder what the "game" is. Why would Satan pick "players" with a nasty streak, while God picks subservient nice guys? What sort of game makes those "skills" of comparable value?

Maybe it's like basketball and God is picking the best outside shooters while Lucifer is picking the top talent in the paint.


Wow, so if millions of people with the same beliefs disappeared after a couple thousand years of telling you it would happen you would come to the above conclusion
 
Wow, so if millions of people with the same beliefs disappeared after a couple thousand years of telling you it would happen you would come to the above conclusion
If all the people who disappeared were white, would you assume that God doesn't like blacks - as the racists have been telling us for centuries?
 
If all the people who disappeared were white, would you assume that God doesn't like blacks - as the racists have been telling us for centuries?


If it was all whites, who had been saying the same things for thousands of years. Yes I would most definitely think they were on to something and not make up song donations where Lucifer and God we're picking teams.... clown
 
Wow, so if millions of people with the same beliefs disappeared after a couple thousand years of telling you it would happen you would come to the above conclusion
This may be a minor point, but rapture theology is only about ~500 years old and people have only been popularly talking about it for ~150 years.
 
This may be a minor point, but rapture theology is only about ~500 years old and people have only been popularly talking about it for ~150 years.


Really, Jesus didn't tell the disciples he would be back after the resurrection?
 
Really, Jesus didn't tell the disciples he would be back after the resurrection?
That's the second coming, not the rapture. The rapture is before the second coming (or simultaneous) where the living good people (and the dead good people) get spared the tribulation and raised up bodily into the air to meet God and go to heaven. The idea has dubious biblical roots. But if it happened, it would sure inform my worldview.
 
That's the second coming, not the rapture. The rapture is before the second coming (or simultaneous) where the living good people (and the dead good people) get spared the tribulation and raised up bodily into the air to meet God and go to heaven. The idea has dubious biblical roots. But if it happened, it would sure inform my worldview.

You got me, two different events however Jesus is the one who according to the bible actually will collect Christians and meet them in the air. This is whenever God decides. Then yes Jesus will return with those who were raptured and his angels and other heavenly creatures?

Anyway, he's not just coming to hang out. You're right as you would rethink what you thought about religion (especially that particular religion). Remember we're not talking about hundreds, but tens of hundreds of millions of people who would've disappeared. Bodies missing from graves.... You would be a fool to recognize it as anything else but an event of Judeo Christian biblical proportions.
 
The End of the World is called Judgment Day. This is
when Christ will return to judge the world. Those who
have faith in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior will
go to eternal life in heaven. Those who have rejected
Christ will go to hell.

The Rapture is a non-Biblical idea that Christ will
return to Jerusalem and rule the world for 1000 years.
 
The End of the World is called Judgment Day. This is
when Christ will return to judge the world. Those who
have faith in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior will
go to eternal life in heaven. Those who have rejected
Christ will go to hell.

The Rapture is a non-Biblical idea that Christ will
return to Jerusalem and rule the world for 1000 years.
So if it happened, would you expect to be left behind? If you were, what would you do?
 
The Rapture and 1000 year reign of Christ on earth is
not going to happen. So I have no contingency plans.
The Fundamentalists have concocted the Rapture idea
and it has no basis Biblical basis.
 
The End of the World is called Judgment Day. This is
when Christ will return to judge the world. Those who
have faith in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior will
go to eternal life in heaven. Those who have rejected
Christ will go to hell.

The Rapture is a non-Biblical idea that Christ will
return to Jerusalem and rule the world for 1000 years.


I don't believe the "rapture" event is Jesus ruling for 1000 years.
 
The Rapture and 1000 year reign of Christ on earth is
not going to happen. So I have no contingency plans.
The Fundamentalists have concocted the Rapture idea
and it has no basis Biblical basis.


If so when was 2nd Thessalonians written?
 
Swag, if by rapture you mean "meeting Jesus in the air
on Judgment Day", then you are correct.
 
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