Sort of like this year where Hawks were picked by almost everyone to finish anywhere from 8th on down.
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Or maybe you could admit that at times Iowa looked like the biggest steaming pile of horse feces, and that criticism of their play was warranted at the time?
I agree that the team has overachieved expectations. Anybody claiming they expected this kind of finish in conference is either always predicting it or a liar.
that said, we can’t hang a banner for being better than everybody expected.
Pretty good in my mind yes, but I picked the Hawkeyes 4th in the league this season before it began. Having said that I picked Illinois, Purdue and Michigan above them soo was wrong too
Exactly. "I told you so's" are a bit premature. Everyone is happy they are playing well. Let's hope the hawks make some noise in the tournaments.
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Purdue
Michigan
Illinois
Iowa
Ohio state
Indiana
Maryland
Rutgers
Michigan State
Penn state
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Northwestern
Minnesota
In that order not counting ties
Thread was Rothstein picks Iowa 10th August 26th. Lest I be called a Liar
This is the kind of BS we have to put up with here. It gets really effing old. If you don’t like the coach or a player you are not a fan and you should find another board to terrorize.
For the most part it’s a small percentage and it’s the same douche canoes that are constantly triggered about a certain coach on the other boards.
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I thought an upper half finish was possible if a lot of things went right. I admit to not seeing Keegan emerging as a first team all-big ten player, maybe player of the year. Thought he’d be good, not great.
Just a few degrees of separation between the differences between those two coaches.
Really didn’t over think it. Figured we would have a difficult time with Big centers
Kofi
Dickerson
Edy
Liked our chances with everyone else
I thought we’d be better defensively but would take a step back on offense after losing all that production.
I never thought they would be where they are now. I thought they had lost way too much. However, I never said fire Fran and that this team is garbage. We have so many fickle fans in football and basketball it is sickening. We even had people say the wrestling team backed into a national title because a couple of finalists lost. Let that sick in!!
So because I don't like a coach that makes me knot a fan? JFC Hooper get over yourself and calm the F down. I didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch.
Liking or disliking the head coach has zero to do with your fandom. Almost no one on here would admit they liked Alford as a head coach, but the plain fact is he lead this program to its 2 biggest heights in the last 20 years. Once a Hawkeye, always a Hawkeye, so get it done Fran!
I’m pretty sure people hated how he was playing, and he was playing terrible. His shot was off, he wasn’t playing defense, and he was taking minutes away from guys who appeared to be better options.
Every one of those “haters” are very happy he is playing like he is capable of playing.
Maybe- but you win some and you lose some. Some days other teams are shooting better, or just get more calls, breaks.
Hyperbole? Iowa had bad stretches in games but for the most part they have been in almost every game except 2, and one of those was a 9-point loss. Do you think that they should never stumble?
LOL.
No I didn’t expect perfection but you have to admit FM was slow as hell making rotation adjustments and putting the players in the best situation to win.
Losing I can deal with . Stubbornness in obvious situations is what ticks me off the most.
Since you are uninformed I will let you know that Fran has a winning record and there is zero reason he should not be fully supported by the fans. Bringing up Lickliter is a strawman but since you don't understand I will let you know Lickliter did not win, ran a boring offense and could not relate very well to players and fans. The two are really not comparable and I bet you understand that.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the ones that drove me crazy were the one trick ponies that, no matter what the topic, felt the need to interject their view that CMAC should never see the floor or Bohannon needed to sit down and only get minutes if he was hot (?) or that McCaffery was inept, clueless, incompetent and was trying to sabotage his own program. Being relentless is not always a positive character trait.
I’m surprised & very happy with where we’re at right now record wise, but slow down amigo.
We haven’t really beaten anybody yet this season. A way overrated Ohio State team is our best win.
We haven’t really beaten anybody yet this season. A way overrated Ohio State team is our best win.
You’re right. Winning at Virginia and Michigan was no big deal. They probably shouldn’t even count those wins, is that what you are saying? My goodness.
Yeah because no one else on here was screaming the very same thing. Not sure what you were watching at the time but it was pretty obvious changes needed to be made .
The only one screaming is you.
What were those changes you were calling for? Please be specific.
So you still haven’t figured out I’ve been typing like this for a decade ?
my beef as I said was the rotation Fran was using earlier in the year. Not enough minutes for Kris. Too many for Connor when he wasn’t playing well. No JO against other teams bigs. And let’s face it until recently getting their butts kicked on the glass , and non existent defense.
Let's take a look at these.
1. So you still haven’t figured out I’ve been typing like this for a decade ?
No. There is no reason for it other that you're just ignorant.
2. Not enough minutes for Kris.
He got and continues to get what his play merits. FWIW, he is averaging 18 mpg over the year but only 17.8 mpg over the last 9 games (whereIowa went 8-1). So NOTHING HAS CHANGED.🙂
3. Too many [minutes] for Connor when he wasn’t playing well. Brilliant thought. Shame you couldn't apply this line of reasoning across the board. He got and still gets the minutes he deserves as a 5th year senior.
4. No JO against other teams bigs.
What? LOL! Do you mean he shouldn't play or that he should be playing? Since he hasn't been logging minutes I assume you mean the latter. If so, why?
I’m sure you were totally happy with the way this team was playing about a month ago? I’m sure you knew all this would turn out the way it has? No negativity from you all season? Unlikely . No one on here was happy with the way this team was performing
Unhappy with the outcome of any loss, but usually happy with the effort.
I never questioned effort either. I just think the coaching was suspect at times , and effort certainly was lacking in rebounding and defense, which I’m happy to say looks like they’ve markedly improved.
“If you don’t like the coach or a player you are not a fan”
Your words. Since you made no “qualifications” (such as….If you don’t like Fran, or If you don’t like a coach with a winning record) there is no straw man here. I understood what you said perfectly. I can only go by what you wrote.
Naturally you are walking your statement back. About what I expected you would do.
Since Alford had a winning record I can only assume you liked him, too. Or is that another “strawman?”
Next time, be more specific. It isn’t the reader’s responsibility to read your mind.
There is a difference between being critical of a coach and making it personal. Lord knows Fran has been deserving of criticism at times but it really does feel like for some it doesn’t matter what he does, anything that goes wrong is his fault.
Even when Iowa wins, some just nitpick. Even in this stretch where Iowa has win by double-digits, FFS. It gets old.
