Man it could get ugly. We’re not going to see 80’s level interest rates but the guys who accrued all this debt thinking $7 corn would last forever are going to be in a world of hurt.
The US cattle herd is at it's lowest size since 1951
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My homemade quinoa black bean burgers are great on the grill!
According to a professor on Peter Attila’s podcast, without livestock converting plant energy into protein, we would all be super protein deficient. As this pertains to health, eating at a .7 to 1.2 grams per pound of ideal body weight, seems to be ideal. Think of muscle as your longevity organ, acting like a storage shed for glucose, making you more insulin sensitive.
I’ve been eating a plant based diet for 6 years now and I don’t have a protein deficiency.
Not 80’s unless massive catastrophe. Too many farmers with money and no banks that will go under, they have been trying to de-risk since 2019. . Several farmers were living on borrowed time in 2020, then Covid money and high grain prices came in. A few righted their ship. Most did not.
Folks who thought $7 corn would last forever just were not very smart folks, Mayland. People take risks (financial) all the time and sometimes they get burned. It’s called Capitalism.
Part of the blame in the recent past can be traced to the ethanol industry.
When corn prices were higher recently because a significant percentage was going towards fuel production, many livestock enterprises simply went out of business because feed input prices were too high.
Unlike raising hogs, that has a shorter birth to processor timeline, getting back into raising cattle isn't the quick turnaround.
Once out of cattle production, you don't typically return.
When corn prices were higher recently because a significant percentage was going towards fuel production, many livestock enterprises simply went out of business because feed input prices were too high.
Unlike raising hogs, that has a shorter birth to processor timeline, getting back into raising cattle isn't the quick turnaround.
Once out of cattle production, you don't typically return.
On a caloric basis, you’d have to consume about 3-4 times the amount of quinoa compared to beef to get the same amount of protein. That number will be higher for certain essential amino acids.
And most cattle is raised on land not suitable for crop production.
So, are we importing lots more beef?
Argentina and Venezuela should have low prices since their currencies have collapsed. Are we buying anything from South America?
Argentina and Venezuela should have low prices since their currencies have collapsed. Are we buying anything from South America?
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I think he’s talking about a global scale, i.e. if the entire human population went to a plant-based diet. There’s not enough arable land in the world to accomplish this.
Most of our beef imports come from Canada and Mexico. Live animals and carcasses are a lot more expensive to transport than grain, and the U.S. has quarantine requirements which add to the cost.
I don’t believe that’s true at all. Can you provide any links to back up your claim?
I’m just thinking it out logically. It would be an extremely complicated model, but I’ll see if anybody’s published anything on it. If not, I’ll try to back up my claim with some numbers. Stay tuned. Ha ha.
The highest percentage of land use in the world is for raising livestock and growing the food they eat. Most of the caloric and protein intake of food is plant based across the world, though. Imagine if you reduce the livestock land use and convert it to growing food that will feed more people for cheaper.
I, like InsaneHawkJJP, have been eating plant based for almost 7 years. I consume more than enough protein on a daily basis and don't miss eating animal products at all. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be to commit to this lifestyle, just have to have willpower and a wife(no pics) that is handy in the kitchen.
Thanks for sharing this. I was going to do some research on that this morning.The highest percentage of land use in the world is for raising livestock and growing the food they eat. Most of the caloric and protein intake of food is plant based across the world, though. Imagine if you reduce the livestock land use and convert it to growing food that will feed more people for cheaper.
I, like InsaneHawkJJP, have been eating plant based for almost 7 years. I consume more than enough protein on a daily basis and don't miss eating animal products at all. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be to commit to this lifestyle, just have to have willpower and a wife(no pics) that is handy in the kitchen.
Yep meat production is very inefficient and destructive. Also, we don't need as much protein as many people think we do.
Today, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) runs more than 150 programs that provide direct subsidies and indirect support to farm businesses. Most direct subsidies are for large producers of corn, soybeans, wheat, cotton, and rice—not for livestock producers or fruit and vegetable growers.
