Things keep looking up........

[Joes Place]

Seriously?

Seriously.

Google it, yourself. Or, ask an AI:

I posted what Google said. Here's Grok:


Estimating the cost of an iPhone produced entirely in the US with US-made parts is complex due to the intricate global supply chain, labor costs, and infrastructure challenges. Various analyses provide a range of projections based on different assumptions:

• Retail Price Estimates:
  • Studies from 2016 to 2025 suggest that an iPhone, which currently retails for around $1,000-$1,200 (e.g., iPhone 16 Pro), could cost significantly more if manufactured entirely in the US. Estimates range from:
    • https://mashable.com/article/how-much-would-united-states-made-iphone-cost
    • $2,000 (MIT Technology Review, 2016; American Enterprise Institute, 2018)
      https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/how-much-would-an-all-american-iphone-cost-two-reports-say-2000/
      $3,000-$3,500 (Wedbush Securities, Mashable, CNN Business, 2025)
      $30,000-$100,000 (Forbes, 2018, and echoed in 2025 X posts) in an extreme scenario where production is limited to a few million units due to supply constraints, turning the iPhone into a luxury item.
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/...t-if-apple-were-forced-to-make-it-in-america/
      
      https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/tech/apple-iphones-cost-tariffs-impact-intl-hnk/index.html
      https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/how-much-apple-iphone-could-cost-made-us
      
      Key Factors Driving Cost Increases:Labor Costs: US labor costs are significantly higher than in China, where skilled workers earn about $214/month compared to $3,500/month in the US. Assembly alone could increase costs by 25%.
      https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-iphone-cost-could-rise-174342086.html
      https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-cal...-of-an-iphone-made-in-america-its-not-pretty/
      1. Component Sourcing: An iPhone contains ~2,700 parts from 187 suppliers across 28 countries, with critical components like processors (Taiwan), displays (South Korea), and rare earth minerals (China) not readily available in the US. Producing these domestically would require massive investment and could triple component costs (e.g., from $190 to $600 per phone).
         https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-cal...-of-an-iphone-made-in-america-its-not-pretty/
         https://www.marketplace.org/2014/05/20/how-much-would-all-american-iphone-cost/
      2. Supply Chain Relocation: Moving the entire supply chain to the US could take 5-15 years and cost Apple billions (e.g., $30 billion to move 10% of the supply chain). Infrastructure like high-precision CNC machines and skilled tooling engineers is scarce in the US.
         https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/tech/apple-iphones-cost-tariffs-impact-intl-hnk/index.html
         https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-cal...-of-an-iphone-made-in-america-its-not-pretty/
         https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...-is-a-century-of-big-business-labor-decisions
      3. Tariffs and Logistics: Even if assembly moves to the US, importing parts could incur tariffs (e.g., 145% on Chinese imports), increasing costs by up to 90% unless exemptions are granted.
         https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/heres-how-much-a-made-in-the-usa-iphone-would-cost.html
         https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-iphone-cost-could-rise-174342086.html
      4. Scale and Efficiency: China’s massive manufacturing ecosystem (e.g., Foxconn’s campuses with 300,000 workers) supports high-volume production. US production might be limited to a few million units annually, driving up prices due to scarcity.
         https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/...t-if-apple-were-forced-to-make-it-in-america/
         https://www.uniladtech.com/apple/iphone-prices-tariffs-america-127706-20250407
      5. Conservative Estimate
      : If only assembly moves to the US with imported parts, the cost increase might be modest (~$30-$100 per phone, or a 5-13% retail price hike). However, producing all parts domestically would push costs higher, likely resulting in a retail price of $2,000-$3,500 for a current-generation iPhone.
      https://www.vox.com/technology/2018/9/13/17851052/apple-iphone-price-china-trump-us-trade
      https://9to5mac.com/2016/06/13/iphone-made-in-usa-cost/
      Extreme Scenario: If production is severely constrained (e.g., 1% of current output), the iPhone could become a luxury item priced at $30,000-$100,000, though this assumes no viable alternatives and extreme supply-demand imbalances, which is less realistic.
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/...t-if-apple-were-forced-to-make-it-in-america/
      https://www.newsweek.com/iphone-cost-made-us-donald-trump-tariffs-2057298
• Feasibility Challenges: Experts, including Apple CEO Tim Cook, note the US lacks the skilled workforce (e.g., precision tooling engineers) and infrastructure to replicate China’s manufacturing ecosystem. Training and building this capacity could take decades, making full US production impractical in the near term.
  https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/...t-if-apple-were-forced-to-make-it-in-america/
  https://www.uniladtech.com/apple/iphone-prices-tariffs-america-127706-20250407
  https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...-is-a-century-of-big-business-labor-decisions

Conclusion: A fully US-made iPhone would likely retail for $2,000-$3,500, with $3,000 being a commonly cited figure, due to higher labor, component, and logistical costs. Extreme estimates of $30,000-$100,000 reflect worst-case scenarios with limited production capacity. These figures assume no major technological or policy changes (e.g., automation or tariff waivers) that could mitigate costs.

 

[Joes Place]

Goodness, you are just a one track mind, and simply cannot understand the whole of lending.

I can understand what I saw between 2007 and 2012.

 

[Joes Place]

You freaking liar.

I'm conveying exactly what's been told to me. EVERY contractor - 6 for 6.
2 week quotes is all we can get. Beyond that, they MAY hold pricing, but will FIRST check to see if their materials costs for ordering go up.

 

[TornadoHawk93]

I'm conveying exactly what's been told to me. EVERY contractor - 6 for 6.
2 week quotes is all we can get. Beyond that, they MAY hold pricing, but will FIRST check to see if their materials costs for ordering go up.

You don't leave your basement Chode.........who are you kidding.

 

[mnole03]

I call total bullshit on this claim....NO ONE has access to this type of transactional information....PERIOD....

You don’t believe option volume for a half-trillion dollar ETF is publicly available?

 

[Hawky4361]

You don’t believe option volume for a half-trillion dollar ETF is publicly available?

Publically available option volume doesn't speak to ANYTHING you claimed in your ridiculous post....

Volume numbers are just that...a statement that transactions occurred...nothing about the buyer, the SELLER, or the actual price or details of those transactions..

 

[Gus is dead]

Propaganda? You beat back on a point I wasn't making.

It's amusing when your side brings up propaganda. Every con message I see on social media is wrapped in a narrative to ensure the recipient knows exactly how to think. They need to nurture that uniformity of thought.

Speaking of propaganda, things are definitely looking up! Stocks are up, gas is down (assuming you pick the right starting point), grocery prices are back to the good ol' days, and we have world peace.

Everything the left has said the past 6 years or more has borne out to be utter BS. So yes, propaganda.

1. Trump Russia hoax
2. Laptop isnt really Hunter's
3. COVID vax doesn't cause myocarditis when the data clearly showed otherwise (so did COVID but that isnt the point)
4. Joe didn't know anything about Hunter's business dealings
5. There is nothing to see here on the Biden cognitive decline and actively hiding the reality of it
6. COVID was a natural variant and got out of control at a wet market at wasn't a lab leak
7. Biden said he wouldn't pardon Hunter over and over and over
8. The southern border is secure and all they needed was more funding to do the job better
9. Trump supported nazis in Charlottesville (Snopes called this 'false')
10. Border patrol was whipping illegals while on horseback during interdiction efforts on the southern border.

These are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure other cons on here can add more.

Your party and it willing accomplices in the media have lost all credibility. They are not to be believed. This is the definition of propaganda. See below.

Defined as "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a particular cause, doctrine, or point of view"

So excuse me if I don't have any interest in hearing you lecture my side about this topic. I cannot believe you aren't viscerally ashamed of what your party has become and what you are complicit in pushing. Lie after lie after lie.

 

[Hawky4361]

Everything the left has said the past 6 years or more has borne out to be utter BS. So yes, propaganda.

1. Trump Russia hoax
2. Laptop isnt really Hunter's
3. COVID vax doesn't cause myocarditis when the data clearly showed otherwise (so did COVID but that isnt the point)
4. Joe didn't know anything about Hunter's business dealings
5. There is nothing to see here on the Biden cognitive decline and actively hiding the reality of it
6. COVID was a natural variant and got out of control at a wet market at wasn't a lab leak
7. Biden said he wouldn't pardon Hunter over and over and over
8. The southern border is secure and all they needed was more funding to do the job better
9. Trump supported nazis in Charlottesville (Snopes called this 'false')
10. Border patrol was whipping illegals while on horseback during interdiction efforts on the southern border.

These are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure other cons on here can add more.

Your party and it willing accomplices in the media have lost all credibility. They are not to be believed. This is the definition of propaganda. See below.

Defined as "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a particular cause, doctrine, or point of view"

So excuse me if I don't have any interest in hearing you lecture my side about this topic. I cannot believe you aren't viscerally ashamed of what your party has become and what you are complicit in pushing. Lie after lie after lie.

Best substantive post of the week...second best post after Scruddy posted "boys will be boys" on Macron wife thread...

 

[pjhawk]

 

[pjhawk]

Everything the left has said the past 6 years or more has borne out to be utter BS. So yes, propaganda.

1. Trump Russia hoax
2. Laptop isnt really Hunter's
3. COVID vax doesn't cause myocarditis when the data clearly showed otherwise (so did COVID but that isnt the point)
4. Joe didn't know anything about Hunter's business dealings
5. There is nothing to see here on the Biden cognitive decline and actively hiding the reality of it
6. COVID was a natural variant and got out of control at a wet market at wasn't a lab leak
7. Biden said he wouldn't pardon Hunter over and over and over
8. The southern border is secure and all they needed was more funding to do the job better
9. Trump supported nazis in Charlottesville (Snopes called this 'false')
10. Border patrol was whipping illegals while on horseback during interdiction efforts on the southern border.

These are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure other cons on here can add more.

Your party and it willing accomplices in the media have lost all credibility. They are not to be believed. This is the definition of propaganda. See below.

Defined as "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a particular cause, doctrine, or point of view"

So excuse me if I don't have any interest in hearing you lecture my side about this topic. I cannot believe you aren't viscerally ashamed of what your party has become and what you are complicit in pushing. Lie after lie after lie.

Just look at this guy. LOL.

"Laptop isn't really Hunter's". Just ludicrous people.

 

[pjhawk]

 

[Flie]

Everything the left has said the past 6 years or more has borne out to be utter BS. So yes, propaganda.

1. Trump Russia hoax
2. Laptop isnt really Hunter's
3. COVID vax doesn't cause myocarditis when the data clearly showed otherwise (so did COVID but that isnt the point)
4. Joe didn't know anything about Hunter's business dealings
5. There is nothing to see here on the Biden cognitive decline and actively hiding the reality of it
6. COVID was a natural variant and got out of control at a wet market at wasn't a lab leak
7. Biden said he wouldn't pardon Hunter over and over and over
8. The southern border is secure and all they needed was more funding to do the job better
9. Trump supported nazis in Charlottesville (Snopes called this 'false')
10. Border patrol was whipping illegals while on horseback during interdiction efforts on the southern border.

These are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure other cons on here can add more.

Your party and it willing accomplices in the media have lost all credibility. They are not to be believed. This is the definition of propaganda. See below.

Defined as "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a particular cause, doctrine, or point of view"

So excuse me if I don't have any interest in hearing you lecture my side about this topic. I cannot believe you aren't viscerally ashamed of what your party has become and what you are complicit in pushing. Lie after lie after lie.

You just rattled off a bunch of right wing talking points like it was some kind of mic drop moment. Do you want me to make a list for the right? You guys are so comfy and smug in those glass houses. It's like you can't imagine the retorts.

Russian "hoax" = "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,". Seems pretty real?

I also have to laugh when I hear the "lost all credibility". Yeah.... in Faux News/Tucker/Alex Jones/Trump circles. Oh no!!!! 23% of America thinks the left lost all credibility!! That same group was totally level headed and balanced in the past! That stings.

If the right doesn't deliver on all of their arrogant promises, guess which side will lack credibility in 2026 and 2028? Hmmmm...... almost like this pattern has happened before.

How has the right done historically with the economy? Where does the smug come from?

 

[jneffer]

You just rattled off a bunch of right wing talking points like it was some kind of mic drop moment. Do you want me to make a list for the right? You guys are so comfy and smug in those glass houses. It's like you can't imagine the retorts.

Russian "hoax" = "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,". Seems pretty real?

I also have to laugh when I hear the "lost all credibility". Yeah.... in Faux News/Tucker/Alex Jones/Trump circles. Oh no!!!! 23% of America thinks the left lost all credibility!! That same group was totally level headed and balanced in the past! That stings.

If the right doesn't deliver on all of their arrogant promises, guess which side will lack credibility in 2026 and 2028? Hmmmm...... almost like this pattern has happened before.

How has the right done historically with the economy? Where does the smug come from?

people that want to cite the russia thing as a "hoax"...i get it - lots of innuendo and comments and coincidences, but no definitive links ever established or proven

which is exactly like the hunter laptop and "joe knew about hunter's business dealings"

anyone who says either one of those things is definitively true or proven is down a partisan media hole that there is no escape from

 

[Flie]

people that want to cite the russia thing as a "hoax"...i get it - lots of innuendo and comments and coincidences, but no definitive links ever established or proven

which is exactly like the hunter laptop and "joe knew about hunter's business dealings"

anyone who says either one of those things is definitively true or proven is down a partisan media hole that there is no escape from

It's spin.

Trump called for Russian interference and Russia engaged. Granted, I'm pretty sure Russia was going to do it anyway and they continue to do it now. I don't believe Trump was actively "colluding" with the enemy in real time (which is what the right hang their hat on) but he played a part. If I were them, I wouldn't try to draw attention to it but that's not Trump's way. He wants to create/control the narrative. "It's a HOAX!!!" and the crowd echoes him in unison.

The self-righteous "YOUR SIDE LIES" nonsense is a bit much for me to take with a straight face. We need a patented "both sides" defense here.

 

[Hawkman34]

I agree with investigating them as well for insider trading. It appears to be an epidemic and I think it is a both sides issue. Anyone who does it should be treated the same. They are literally stealing from anyone else trading those securities.

Amen Hawkeye! This is not a Republican or Dem thing. They ALL need to be investigated. It upsets me to no end because in so many ways I think both sides work together to fleece us.

 

[Hawkman34]

I can understand what I saw between 2007 and 2012.

No, if you did, you would understand that making that statment provides no rebuttle to the proof that lending, at this point in time, is going way better then it has in the last 2 years.

 

[Joes Place]

Everything the left has said the past 6 years or more has borne out to be utter BS. So yes, propaganda.

1. Trump Russia hoax

What was this "hoax"?

Senate Intel Committee, chaired by Republicans, published TWO Committee Reports outlining the relationships between Trump's campaign and the Russians.

Did the GOP push a "hoax" I'm unaware of here?

 

[Gus is dead]

You just rattled off a bunch of right wing talking points like it was some kind of mic drop moment. Do you want me to make a list for the right? You guys are so comfy and smug in those glass houses. It's like you can't imagine the retorts.

Russian "hoax" = "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,". Seems pretty real?

I also have to laugh when I hear the "lost all credibility". Yeah.... in Faux News/Tucker/Alex Jones/Trump circles. Oh no!!!! 23% of America thinks the left lost all credibility!! That same group was totally level headed and balanced in the past! That stings.

If the right doesn't deliver on all of their arrogant promises, guess which side will lack credibility in 2026 and 2028? Hmmmm...... almost like this pattern has happened before.

How has the right done historically with the economy? Where does the smug come from?

The smug comes from a position of superiority. The left flat out lied to us over and over, attempting to tell you you cant believe your lying eyes.

These aren't right wing talking points. That would imply that I reproduced them from a right wing outlet. I have not. I pay attention to the news and the daily events. Any fair analysis leads one to conclude that this country was propagandized for the last 8 years. There are things in the news cycle or headlines that a person can say are lies but are often just a matter of opinion or perspective. None of the bullet points I laid out are that. We were told one thing, categorically, and then later learn that the facts were otherwise. You would do well by yourself to consider the above and admit that yes, many of the things you were told to believe were lies and to admit that, for cathartic purposes, here.

Next, I dont listen to Tucker or Alex Jones.

We will see about the economy wont we? We are 5 months into a 48 month term after all.

 

[Gus is dead]

people that want to cite the russia thing as a "hoax"...i get it - lots of innuendo and comments and coincidences, but no definitive links ever established or proven

which is exactly like the hunter laptop and "joe knew about hunter's business dealings"

anyone who says either one of those things is definitively true or proven is down a partisan media hole that there is no escape from

What? Are you drinking? The laptop was Hunter's when we were told it wasn't. Hunter admitted in court it was his.

Biden knew about Hunters businesses plain and simple. He, himself, told us over and over he didn't.

Partisan media hole? Ha. I see two holes, the one in the ground your head is in and the one pointing outward accordingly.

 

[jneffer]

What? Are you drinking? The laptop was Hunter'sw when we were told it wasnt. Hunter admitted in court it was his.

Biden knew about Hunters businesses plain and simple. He, himself, told us over and over he didn't.

Partisan media hole? Ha. I see two holes, the one in the ground your head is in and the one pointing outward accordingly.

there's never been anything proven regarding evidence of joe biden's corruption taken from the laptop - and that was the "real" allegation

 

[Gus is dead]

there's never been anything proven regarding evidence of joe biden's corruption taken from the laptop - and that was the "real" allegation

We were told my Joe and the media, over and over, that the Hunter laptop wasn't his. It doesn't matter why they wanted the laptop to be his. It was his, they told us it wasn't. End of story.

 

[Hawky4361]

people that want to cite the russia thing as a "hoax"...i get it - lots of innuendo and comments and coincidences, but no definitive links ever established or proven

which is exactly like the hunter laptop and "joe knew about hunter's business dealings"

anyone who says either one of those things is definitively true or proven is down a partisan media hole that there is no escape from

So Joe Biden knew NOTHING about his son's business dealings??....Can't believe there is anyone in the world stupid enough to hold on to that idea... JFC

 

[jneffer]

We were told my Joe and the media, over and over, that the Hunter laptop wasn't his. It doesn't matter why they wanted the laptop to be his. It was his, they told us it wasn't. End of story.

we disagree that's the end of the story

the whole point - at least initially - was what was on that laptop: proof of joe biden's corruption. that's an important part of the story

 

[jneffer]

So Joe Biden knew NOTHING about his son's business dealings??....Can't believe there is anyone in the world stupid enough to hold on to that idea... JFC

describe what's corrupt about generally "knowing about his sons' business dealings".

is that what we're saying "corrupt" means now? i'm guessing trump is pretty well informed on a bunch of his son's business dealings too. is that corruption?

 

[Hawky4361]

describe what's corrupt about generally "knowing about his sons' business dealings".

is that what we're saying "corrupt" means now? i'm guessing trump is pretty well informed on a bunch of his son's business dealings too. is that corruption?

10% for the Big Guy....pretty simple...

 

[jneffer]

10% for the Big Guy....pretty simple...

that's a line in an email

there was never any proven link between that email about a deal that never happened and money going to joe biden or any corrupt actions

and if it was proven...why isn't the trump admin prosecuting? (they aren't prosecuting because it wasn't proven)

so, like the "russia hoax" lots of coincidences, innuendo, and comments - but never any link clearly shown

 

[Hawky4361]

that's a line in an email

there was never any proven link between that email about a deal that never happened and money going to joe biden or any corrupt actions

and if it was proven...why isn't the trump admin prosecuting? (they aren't prosecuting because it wasn't proven)

so, like the "russia hoax" lots of coincidences, innuendo, and comments - but never any link clearly shown

Yep....OJ was not guilty...

 

[jneffer]

Yep....OJ was not guilty...

and if the only evidence for OJ was an email from al cowlings to kato kaelin saying he thought OJ did it, this would be a good comparison

 

[YYZ86]

You seem to be missing the context I was replying to. Do you think my point is just to crow about gas being high? If yes, you might want to sit this one out.

Average gas is still over $3/gallon right now. Things keep looking up!!

40 to 50 cents lower than the average increase this time year. My memory had it go from around $3 in Jan to 3.60 last May.

 

[Flie]

40 to 50 cents lower than the average increase this time year. My memory had it go from around $3 in Jan to 3.60 last May.

So we should see $2.50/gallon by December then.

Gas is still over $3/gallon (basically what we've been paying for years) but Trump did it!!

 

[Flie]

The smug comes from a position of superiority. The left flat out lied to us over and over, attempting to tell you you cant believe your lying eyes.

These aren't right wing talking points. That would imply that I reproduced them from a right wing outlet. I have not. I pay attention to the news and the daily events. Any fair analysis leads one to conclude that this country was propagandized for the last 8 years. There are things in the news cycle or headlines that a person can say are lies but are often just a matter of opinion or perspective. None of the bullet points I laid out are that. We were told one thing, categorically, and then later learn that the facts were otherwise. You would do well by yourself to consider the above and admit that yes, many of the things you were told to believe were lies and to admit that, for cathartic purposes, here.

Next, I dont listen to Tucker or Alex Jones.

We will see about the economy wont we? We are 5 months into a 48 month term after all.

I had to stop and laugh after the first sentence. Superiority based on what? Results? Actual results

We saw about the economy in the past although some of us remember history differently. Facts are tough to argue though, unless you introduce alternative truth and facts. Yes, this economy will be judged based on the metrics, just like the rest. Not off to a good start so far.

Everything you ranted about regarding propaganda has been happening for decades and the right embraces it and champions it. You are also posting fringe nonsense mixed in with your beliefs/opinions as the definitive answers.

You can get right wing talking points from social media and friends as well. You did spout a bunch of right-wing talking points almost verbatim.

The right LIES!!! Gotta love the smugness from the glass house. Truth and honesty aren't really Trump's strengths, so I find it odd that you want to put your superior stake in the ground over that subject. Your side has villainized fact checkers. There are trackers for Trump's lies with graphs.

This just scratches the surface:

• Trump said the election was stolen - it wasn't; he lost through the normal voting process
• Trump said he didn't pay hush money to a porn star - actually he never denied that
• Trump said covid would be over in a few weeks - it wasn't
• Trump said he would lock up Hillary - he didn't
• Trump said he would build a wall and make Mexico pay for it - he didn't and they didn't
• Trump said inflation was all Biden's fault - lol no; bless your hearts
• Trump said he would lower grocery prices on day one - nope
• Trump said he would end the Russia/Ukraine war - "Vladimir stop!!!" seems like it's working well
• Trump said the election was a "landslide" - it was 49.8% to 48.3% (a stomping!)
• Trump said gas was $1.98 - lol
• Trump's press secretary said the Trump bill won't affect the deficit - I believe her (you just gotta believe!)
• Trump press secretary's repeatedly boasting about crowd sizes - we all saw the reality
• Trump said in April that grocery prices are "way down" - grocery prices are up since January
• Trump said we were making billions per day off of the tariffs - lol no

 

[Joes Place]

MAGAs seem to be Deer in Headlights on this whole "tariffs reversal" thing.

Markets will now rebound on the "US International Trade Court Economy", after the Trump economic plan had sabotaged them for 5 months.

 

[Joes Place]

 

[YYZ86]

So we should see $2.50/gallon by December then.

Gas is still over $3/gallon (basically what we've been paying for years) but Trump did it!!

Who knows. Not a Trump fan, but your intellectually dishonest omission of how the price of gas should be much higher this time of year is childish.

 

[Flie]

Who knows. Not a Trump fan, but your intellectually dishonest omission of how the price of gas should be much higher this time of year is childish.

Gas is down from a year ago. I acknowledged that earlier. However, that's not what this thread is about. Is it? Be intellectually honest please.

You want to pull a single point I made and tear it down outside of context.

 

[Joes Place]

 

[Gus is dead]

Gas is down from a year ago. I acknowledged that earlier. However, that's not what this thread is about. Is it? Be intellectually honest please.

You want to pull a single point I made and tear it down outside of context.

No, the point is that you dont understand the point the rest of are making regarding gas prices and explaining it further would be a waste of time. You clearly are incapable of second level analysis and prefer to function within your innate inability.

 

[Hawkman34]

MORE GREAT ECONOMIC NEWS TODAY......

Today, Friday, May 30, 2025, several key U.S. economic indicators were released, offering insights into the nation's economic health:

📊 Personal Income and Spending (April 2025)​

• Personal Income: Increased by 0.8%, this surpassed economist expectations.
• Disposable Personal Income: Also rose by 0.8%.

In today's economic data release, the core Personal Consumption Expenditures (PCE) price index—the Federal Reserve's preferred measure of underlying inflation, saw the year-over-year rate down to 2.5% from 2.7% in March. This marks the lowest annual core inflation rate since March 2021, indicating a continued cooling trend in inflation. AP News

The moderation in core PCE inflation suggests that underlying price pressures are easing, which may influence the Federal Reserve's future monetary policy decisions.

📉 Inflation Trends​

• PCE Price Index: The Federal Reserve's preferred inflation metric showed stable inflation, reflecting a generally favorable economic backdrop. Axios

This stability in inflation provides the Federal Reserve with some leeway in its monetary policy decisions.

🌐 International Trade (April 2025)​

• Goods Trade Deficit: Narrowed significantly to $87.6 billion, down from $162.3 billion in March. Census.gov

The substantial reduction in the trade deficit indicates a positive shift in the balance of trade, potentially boosting the GDP.Bureau of Economic Analysis+1Census.gov+1

🏭 Durable Goods Orders​

• Headline Orders: As expected, headline orders for long-lasting durable goods showed steady performance, indicating sustained business investment. American Chemistry Council

This steady performance suggests that businesses remain confident in the economic outlook.

 

[Joes Place]

MORE GREAT ECONOMIC NEWS TODAY......

Today, Friday, May 30, 2025, several key U.S. economic indicators were released, offering insights into the nation's economic health:

📊 Personal Income and Spending (April 2025)​

• Personal Income: Increased by 0.8%, this surpassed economist expectations.
• Disposable Personal Income: Also rose by 0.8%.

In today's economic data release, the core Personal Consumption Expenditures (PCE) price index—the Federal Reserve's preferred measure of underlying inflation, saw the year-over-year rate down to 2.5% from 2.7% in March. This marks the lowest annual core inflation rate since March 2021, indicating a continued cooling trend in inflation. AP News

The moderation in core PCE inflation suggests that underlying price pressures are easing, which may influence the Federal Reserve's future monetary policy decisions.

📉 Inflation Trends​

• PCE Price Index: The Federal Reserve's preferred inflation metric showed stable inflation, reflecting a generally favorable economic backdrop. Axios

This stability in inflation provides the Federal Reserve with some leeway in its monetary policy decisions.

🌐 International Trade (April 2025)​

• Goods Trade Deficit: Narrowed significantly to $87.6 billion, down from $162.3 billion in March. Census.gov

The substantial reduction in the trade deficit indicates a positive shift in the balance of trade, potentially boosting the GDP.Bureau of Economic Analysis+1Census.gov+1

🏭 Durable Goods Orders​

• Headline Orders: As expected, headline orders for long-lasting durable goods showed steady performance, indicating sustained business investment. American Chemistry Council

This steady performance suggests that businesses remain confident in the economic outlook.

Looks pretty mediocre to me.

 

[Hawkman34]

Looks pretty mediocre to me.

What else could you say.? This data goes against your's and your lying party's narrative about how everything should have crashed by now. LOL