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This Off Topic Board becoming Fringe Alt-Left 4Chan hang out

Well its clear now to me that you can't be part of a rational conversation. This is pure lunacy snd the more your side peddles this bs the crazier you look.

If myself and those that voted for Trump are Nazis, what are your moral responsibilities? Where do you see this all going?

He has been like this for some time. It is people like him and a few others that have poisoned the rhetoric well around here and many seem affected by them steadily over time.

After seeing what has happened to HBOT i feel like i better understand how cults form. Many of these posters gave up their skeptical thinking in exchange for justified rage long ago. Now it is just a dumping ground for their existential dread and hatred. It’s truly sad.
 
Liberals, many of you are convinced and state that the US government has become a Nazi like fascist dictatorship.

To stay an American citizen makes you complicit.

When will you renounce your citizenship and leave the country?

Well?
 
I'd just like to point out that what made those dumb ****, J6 idiots, do what they did was leaving what had been considered relatively normal forms of discussion to find alternative sources of information that fed their desires.


Just sayin'

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Textbook projection. Never find a better example than this..
You are the biggest problem. You post 50x a day and it’s all political, trump hatred and negativity. Someone disagrees, you wish death upon them and cuss them out. You’re one of the most radical sensitive internet warriors I’ve ever come across.
Clearly you didn’t learn anything in the last couple years. Please keep it going for another four years, it will secure another Red Wave.
 
He has been like this for some time. It is people like him and a few others that have poisoned the rhetoric well around here and many seem affected by them steadily over time.

After seeing what has happened to HBOT i feel like i better understand how cults form. Many of these posters gave up their skeptical thinking in exchange for justified rage long ago. Now it is just a dumping ground for their existential dread and hatred. It’s truly sad.
This has to be a parody account. I mean, a DEDICATED fuqin parody account but still. No human is lacks this much self-awareness. It’s not possible.
 
This has to be a parody account. I mean, a DEDICATED fuqin parody account but still. No human is lacks this much self-awareness. It’s not possible.
Third time I’ve seen dems talk about parody account. Must be a memo going around about talking points. That or you piggyback off what others say. Way to be unoriginal. Either way he’s not wrong. Instead of attacking the content you made it personal. You already lost the debate, and way to prove his point.
 
By chance did you ever come across the poster that would always say "pray for surf"?

At some point I want to just fall to that with you. He wasn't an overly intelligent individual but he always had "pray for surf" and to me that represented an attitude that at some point you can't control it so just ride the wave and make the best.

Things are going well, yes there will be bumps, yes, there will be decisions made that you and I disagree with but do you REALLY want to stop deportation over "1" bad story? Do you REALLY want to go back to china's tit when we have a chance to get off it? ( as much you disagree with the current tactic).


Pray for surf.
I’m praying brother. Literally. I pray for our country. I pray for those I think are misguided. I pray for Trump (and yes I still can’t stand him). I pray for my loved ones.

That’s what Christians do.

But I’m also a practical realist and I know the tsunami that is about to come. So while I’m praying, I’m also loudly suggesting we stop standing on the shoreline wondering why the water receded way out into the ocean and maybe head inland a good ways to a safer position.

As to the deportations, I’m not against the idea of deporting unproductive criminals after due process. I am 100% against deporting productive people who are in a legal status now regardless of how they got here, and I am 100% against putting people in prison without due process, even highly likely gang bangers. Everyone deserves their day in court, everyone.

And Trump could get this guy back tomorrow if he wanted. Or is he too much of a pussy to take on…checks notes…El Salvador?
 
I think you misread that unless you are talking about something other than Trump’s overall approval. Down 1% from March and 4% from Feb. page 8. Still shockingly high to me though so I have to admit he remains strangely popular - again the impact of his trade war hasn’t worked its way into the economy yet. It it is coming.

His approval on the economy is down 6% over the past two months.

Also, look at the independent numbers. He is getting hammered. Right now the thing propping him up is the stalwart support of the GOP. He has that locked down for sure.

By the way, kudos on the poll…this is a great resource for political junkies like me and I appreciate you sharing it,
 
I’m praying brother. Literally. I pray for our country. I pray for those I think are misguided. I pray for Trump (and yes I still can’t stand him). I pray for my loved ones.

That’s what Christians do.

But I’m also a practical realist and I know the tsunami that is about to come. So while I’m praying, I’m also loudly suggesting we stop standing on the shoreline wondering why the water receded way out into the ocean and maybe head inland a good ways to a safer position.

As to the deportations, I’m not against the idea of deporting unproductive criminals after due process. I am 100% against deporting productive people who are in a legal status now regardless of how they got here, and I am 100% against putting people in prison without due process, even highly likely gang bangers. Everyone deserves their day in court, everyone.

And Trump could get this guy back tomorrow if he wanted. Or is he too much of a pussy to take on…checks notes…El Salvador?
Fwiw I just listen to the chief accountant for CUNA talk about their expectations. They believe we will see a "mild recession" with growth around 1. 25 (+/-) by YE 2025 and then a ramp back up 2.5+ by Q2 2026. He is obviously very focused on personal lending and his major concern was large banks and commercial lending.


He did say inflation coming in lower was a surprise and improved the outlook.


*he also emphasized future unemployment. I'm not sure I agree with his projections there. I'd like to know how the migrants leaving are being accounted for in these job numbers. He also focused on our declining population.
 
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Fwiw I just listen to the chief accountant for CUNA talk about their expectations. They believe we will see a "mild recession" with growth around 1. 25 (+/-) by YE 2025 and then a ramp back up 2.5+ by Q2 2026. He is obviously very focused on personal lending and his major concern was large banks and commercial lending.


He did say inflation coming in lower was a surprise and improved the outlook.
I hope like hell he is right. The tariffs have not hit the inflation numbers yet. That, plus reduced demand causing layoffs are my biggest worries here.

Edit: to clarify I’m not hoping for a recession. I think that is almost inevitable. I’m hoping it is a mild one. Keep in mind just 12 weeks ago Trump was talking about how the economy was going to be great on day one.
 
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Edit: to clarify I’m not hoping for a recession. I think that is almost inevitable. I’m hoping it is a mild one. Keep in mind just 12 weeks ago Trump was talking about how the economy was going to be great on day one.

Whenever I think about anything Trump says and his commitments to the America people, I think of this:

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Casual political assassination comments.
Casual sedition comments.

You all know who you are. How did you all become so radicalized?

Meanwhile…

Trump’s policy positions wildly popular.

DOGE with 69% approval! Nice!

There are some chodes on here from the leftwing nut house who are using multiple accounts to post. They know who they are and it is hilarious to watch them. LOL!

They all fit the same profile, here are just a few traits:
  • Old, angry, lonley libturds, who protested back in the 60's, but never got anywhere.
  • They post from their dark, dank basements day and night because they have no family or friends who can stand to be around them.
  • Would love to be firebombing Tesla's, but can't get their walkers up the stairs.
  • Have a full supply of their Anti-Anxiety meds at arms length to keep their TDS from overtaking them. Of course, it isn't working. LOL!
😂 😂 😂
 
I hope like hell he is right. The tariffs have not hit the inflation numbers yet. That, plus reduced demand causing layoffs are my biggest worries here.

Edit: to clarify I’m not hoping for a recession. I think that is almost inevitable. I’m hoping it is a mild one. Keep in mind just 12 weeks ago Trump was talking about how the economy was going to be great on day one.
Fwiw according to the metric right now the economy IS great. The fear is this isn't sustainable and we are headed for a cliff.

 
There are some chodes on here from the leftwing nut house who are using multiple accounts to post. They know who they are and it is hilarious to watch them. LOL!

They all fit the same profile, here are just a few traits:
  • Old, angry, lonley libturds, who protested back in the 60's, but never got anywhere.
  • They post from their dark, dank basements day and night because they have no family or friends who can stand to be around them.
  • Would love to be firebombing Tesla's, but can't get their walkers up the stairs.
  • Have a full supply of their Anti-Anxiety meds at arms length to keep their TDS from overtaking them. Of course, it isn't working. LOL!
😂 😂 😂

I really miss your best friends. C'mon mods - bring back @Here_4_a_Day, @PapaTed, @EvolutionDenier, @HotelAlphaWilcoKilo, etc., etc.!
 
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Fwiw according to the metric right now the economy IS great. The fear is this isn't sustainable and we are headed for a cliff.

Yep. Lots of these types of measures are lagging measures. I am looking solely at the forward looking measures because Trump took such dramatic action. Whether you approve or disapprove of his action the world is different now than it was yesterday because Trump did what he did.

Tariffs will very likely raise the inflation component short term and I doubt anyone truly knows how businesses will respond should demand drop. Will they layoff employees or hold steady? Hard to predict, but again since these lag I don’t think this tells us much about what is to come.
 
Yep. Lots of these types of measures are lagging measures. I am looking solely at the forward looking measures because Trump took such dramatic action. Whether you approve or disapprove of his action the world is different now than it was yesterday because Trump did what he did.

Tariffs will very likely raise the inflation component short term and I doubt anyone truly knows how businesses will respond should demand drop. Will they layoff employees or hold steady? Hard to predict, but again since these lag I don’t think this tells us much about what is to come.
I think you hit the nail on the head, the world is different today than it was 3 months ago, and I believe the difference is better for America in the long run. ( and worse for China specifically)
 
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Yep. Lots of these types of measures are lagging measures. I am looking solely at the forward looking measures because Trump took such dramatic action. Whether you approve or disapprove of his action the world is different now than it was yesterday because Trump did what he did.

Tariffs will very likely raise the inflation component short term and I doubt anyone truly knows how businesses will respond should demand drop. Will they layoff employees or hold steady? Hard to predict, but again since these lag I don’t think this tells us much about what is to come.

I'm sitting back and watching...

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People didn't vote for deporting immigrants to foreign prisons without due process.

Put that to a national poll.
I'll vote for a few fringe deportation if it means 1,000 nonfringe deported for every fringe. I'm guessing the nation is with me. Again, 90% of the counties in this country voted for Trump. Get out of your pathetic bubble.
 
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