This statement on how Pope Francis' worldview lines up.....
- Thread starter torbee
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Gotcha.
The church does view sex a method for procreation.
I'm sure you and your Bo's can rattle the rafters, but neither of you are at risk of becoming even half pregnant.
What does marriage have to do with spirituality? A single person can be extremely pious.
The Pope and all of his coworkers agree with you.
A fact I thank God for every day. But Catholics aren't as puritanical as they sometimes get labeled. Catholics recognize the benefits fun sex has for relationship building. I went to Catholic School, they taught us what a blow job was in the 4th grade. Sure they want the relationship of their liking to take place first and want the sex open to receiving the spiritual gifts, but they know its supposed to be fun and embrace that part too.
I would imagine that membership does have its priviledges.
Think about it this way....
Did you like some of the things Pope Frank said?
Would you like it if Congress acted on any of those things?
If the answer to those questions is "yes." which party would be introducing which legislative elements?
GOP: ban abortion.
Dems: most of the rest.
Speaking for myself, as a lefty atheist, I would like to see Pope Frank's recommendations introduced. Sure, the devil could be in the details, but I would support most of what I heard or what his words implied in policy terms.
Needless to say I don't require an outside authority to ratify what my reason tells me is good.
But, sure, It's nice to finally have a prominent religious figure who seems to get it.
Keep pushing the winner-loser meme if you want to. It's as good a way as any to deflect. The question I wonder is why you want to deflect.
I am sure someone as smart as you are already knows why I am trying to deflect.
My side is on the losing side of the prominent religious figure. We are evil and want people to suffer.
Obama and the dems hate religion until it can help them or until a Jesuit commie comes along and acts all liberal. just like they hate bush killing muslims until they can fake like Obama killed obl to shut trump up, and the Hawaii folks, about the birth certificate
You can join my team. I'll help get you through the initiation. I know all the codes.
You cherry-pick your points as usual.
You minimize the mass of the Pope's disapproval of abortion.
You will wind up on the wrong side of the Pope and Science eventually.
Thanks for the invite but I am too old to be making changes.
He's to the right of either party on divorce. If I had to guess if he was in charge he would end no fault divorce. Also probably to the right on contraception. I don't think the popes believe in making it illegal but they certainly wouldn't be providing it for free as part of a standard insurance plan.
This is honestly why on a 2 axis political test I incorrectly end up more towards the liberal end then the communitarian end. Because as it's not a typical part of our current political dialog there are no questions about divorce. And I know I'm in a tiny minority here but I support a complete end to no fault divorce.
Also religious freedom, I guess this sort of goes with Gay Marriage but they would likely support strong religious freedom protections. Only the popes oddly enough have been more fair with religious freedom then many Republicans. They realize that religious freedom applies to Muslims too.
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My question is, if you (not you specifically) jump up and down touting he said something the left agrees with, then he says abortion and gay marriage is bad, do you just dismiss it as hogwash?
Ban abortion and gay marriage along with the rest of his recommendations??
Generalities aside, people don't hate religion. What I like is when actions and moral principles align and dislike people who present themselves as one thing and act in another manner.
If the Pope is a commie Jesuit than count me on the side that respects the ideals of a commie Jesuit.
