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Tom Dienhart: Iowa will finish 7th in B1G

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Predicted standings

1. Michigan State. Two words sum up Sparty: 1. Scary. 2. Good. Tom Izzo’s resume may get spruced up with an eighth Final Four trip with the return of four starters led by Miles Bridges and Nick Ward. And get a load of absolutely fabulous freshman Jaren Jackson.

2. Purdue. Stop me if you’ve heard this before: The Boilers are being overlooked. Caleb Swanigan can’t be replaced. Still, fans in Mackey Arena will go hoarse screaming “Boiler Up!” watching Vince Edwards, Isaac Haas, Dakota Mathias, Carsen Edwards and electric frosh Nojel Eastern.

3. Minnesota. Richard Pitino went from eight wins in 2015-16 to 24 last season. What’s next? A Big Ten title? The Gophers are paced by an outstanding trio in Nate Mason, Amir Coffey and Reggie Lynch. This team knows how to defend and limits turnovers. Fear Goldy.

4. Wisconsin. Death, taxes and the Badgers finishing in the Top Four. Count on it. Yes, Wisconsin must replace four starters. But let’s not write off UW, which has finished fourth or higher in each of the last 16 years. Ethan Happ is the hub. And watch lead guard D’Mitrik Trice become a star.

5. Northwestern. Seem strange to see these guys here? Kinda. But get used to it. After finally breaking through to the Big Dance, everyone’s favorite Cinderella is looking for more—and it may come with a talented roster led by the senior backcourt of Bryant McIntosh and Scottie Lindsey.

6. Maryland. Melo Trimble has left the building. No worries. Talent still oozes from the XFINITY Center. Justin Jackson can do it all. And toss in fellow sophs Kevin Huerter and Anthony Cowan, and you can see why excitement percolates at R.J. Bentley’s Restaurant on Baltimore Ave.

7. Iowa. Losing Peter Jok hurts. But there is plenty of offensive talent, including Tyler Cook and Jordan Bohannon. But a big key to success will be to play better defense for a squad that has lots of good young talent. If it doesn’t happen, count on Mount Fran erupting.

8. Michigan. Moritz Wager blossomed last season. They sky is the limit now for the Big Ten’s Dirk Nowitzki. Can Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman—say that 10 times fast–evolve as an offensive threat? Oh, and look out for Kentucky transfer Charles Matthews.

9. Penn State. We’ve been hearing about it. Now, is this the season for a big breakthrough in State College? Could be. Pat Chambers has used his Philly connections to assemble a nice collection of players led by Tony Carr and Lamar Stevens. Get excited, Nittany Lions fans. Really. I’m serious. PSU last danced in 2011.

10. Indiana. Good-bye, Tom Crean. Hello, Archie Miller. There is work to do for the Wunderkind Miller, as four of last year’s top five scorers are gone, including James Blackmon, OG Anunoby and Thomas Bryant. Still, the crazies in the candy-stripe sweatpants are stoked. The Hoosiers need Robert Johnson to be a star.

11. Nebraska. The first two goals—better defense and fewer turnovers. Five newcomers must help now as Tim Miles enters a critical sixth season. That Big Dance trip in 2014 seems like eons ago. Glynn Watson is a veteran hand at the point who must keep it all together.

12. Illinois. Hard to believe, but the Fighting Illini haven’t been to the Big Dance since the 2012-13 season. What in the name of Lou Henson’s orange jacket is going on? That’s why Brad Underwood is the new coach in Champaign. Te’Jon Lucas needs to be a difference maker with Malcolm Hill gone.

13. Ohio State. My, how the mighty have fallen. Chris Holtmann arrives from Butler to begin remaking the Buckeyes, who missed the last two Big Dances under Thad Matta. Jae’Sean Tate, Keita Bates-Diop and C.J. Jackson need to lead the way. Please. Be patient. There is work to do.

14. Rutgers. That sound you hear? It’s hope. Finally. Steve Pikiell looks primed to lead the Scarlet Knights out of the wilderness. The talent level is on the rise, and there is a new commitment to defense. Deshawn Freeman could become a force on the interior. You know Corey Sanders can fill ‘er up.

All-Big Ten

First Team
Miles Bridges, Michigan State
Ethan Happ, Wisconsin
Mortiz Wagner, Michigan
Nate Mason, Minnesota
Bryant McIntosh, Northwestern

Second Team
Vincent Edwards, Purdue
Scottie Lindsey Northwestern
Jordan Murphy, Minnesota
Jaren Jackson, Michigan State
Tyler Cook, Iowa

Third Team
Jae’Sean Tate, Ohio State
Dakota Mathias, Purdue
Tony Carr, Penn State
Nick Ward, Michigan State
Amir Coffey, Minnesota

Top newcomers
F Jaren Jackson, Michigan State
G Isaiah Washington, Minnesota
F Nathan Reuvers, Wisconsin
F Nojel Eastern, Purdue
G Darryl Morsell, Maryland

Top shooters
Dakota Mathias, Purdue
Justin Jackson, Maryland
Duncan Robinson, Michigan
Ryan Cline, Purdue
Jordan Bohannon, Iowa

Top defenders
Reggie Lynch, Minnesota
Ethan Happ, Wisconsin
Vic Law, Northwestern
Dakota Mathias, Purdue
Mike Watkins, Penn State

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Predicted standings

1. Michigan State. Two words sum up Sparty: 1. Scary. 2. Good. Tom Izzo’s resume may get spruced up with an eighth Final Four trip with the return of four starters led by Miles Bridges and Nick Ward. And get a load of absolutely fabulous freshman Jaren Jackson.

2. Purdue. Stop me if you’ve heard this before: The Boilers are being overlooked. Caleb Swanigan can’t be replaced. Still, fans in Mackey Arena will go hoarse screaming “Boiler Up!” watching Vince Edwards, Isaac Haas, Dakota Mathias, Carsen Edwards and electric frosh Nojel Eastern.

3. Minnesota. Richard Pitino went from eight wins in 2015-16 to 24 last season. What’s next? A Big Ten title? The Gophers are paced by an outstanding trio in Nate Mason, Amir Coffey and Reggie Lynch. This team knows how to defend and limits turnovers. Fear Goldy.

4. Wisconsin. Death, taxes and the Badgers finishing in the Top Four. Count on it. Yes, Wisconsin must replace four starters. But let’s not write off UW, which has finished fourth or higher in each of the last 16 years. Ethan Happ is the hub. And watch lead guard D’Mitrik Trice become a star.

5. Northwestern. Seem strange to see these guys here? Kinda. But get used to it. After finally breaking through to the Big Dance, everyone’s favorite Cinderella is looking for more—and it may come with a talented roster led by the senior backcourt of Bryant McIntosh and Scottie Lindsey.

6. Maryland. Melo Trimble has left the building. No worries. Talent still oozes from the XFINITY Center. Justin Jackson can do it all. And toss in fellow sophs Kevin Huerter and Anthony Cowan, and you can see why excitement percolates at R.J. Bentley’s Restaurant on Baltimore Ave.

7. Iowa. Losing Peter Jok hurts. But there is plenty of offensive talent, including Tyler Cook and Jordan Bohannon. But a big key to success will be to play better defense for a squad that has lots of good young talent. If it doesn’t happen, count on Mount Fran erupting.

8. Michigan. Moritz Wager blossomed last season. They sky is the limit now for the Big Ten’s Dirk Nowitzki. Can Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman—say that 10 times fast–evolve as an offensive threat? Oh, and look out for Kentucky transfer Charles Matthews.

9. Penn State. We’ve been hearing about it. Now, is this the season for a big breakthrough in State College? Could be. Pat Chambers has used his Philly connections to assemble a nice collection of players led by Tony Carr and Lamar Stevens. Get excited, Nittany Lions fans. Really. I’m serious. PSU last danced in 2011.

10. Indiana. Good-bye, Tom Crean. Hello, Archie Miller. There is work to do for the Wunderkind Miller, as four of last year’s top five scorers are gone, including James Blackmon, OG Anunoby and Thomas Bryant. Still, the crazies in the candy-stripe sweatpants are stoked. The Hoosiers need Robert Johnson to be a star.

11. Nebraska. The first two goals—better defense and fewer turnovers. Five newcomers must help now as Tim Miles enters a critical sixth season. That Big Dance trip in 2014 seems like eons ago. Glynn Watson is a veteran hand at the point who must keep it all together.

12. Illinois. Hard to believe, but the Fighting Illini haven’t been to the Big Dance since the 2012-13 season. What in the name of Lou Henson’s orange jacket is going on? That’s why Brad Underwood is the new coach in Champaign. Te’Jon Lucas needs to be a difference maker with Malcolm Hill gone.

13. Ohio State. My, how the mighty have fallen. Chris Holtmann arrives from Butler to begin remaking the Buckeyes, who missed the last two Big Dances under Thad Matta. Jae’Sean Tate, Keita Bates-Diop and C.J. Jackson need to lead the way. Please. Be patient. There is work to do.

14. Rutgers. That sound you hear? It’s hope. Finally. Steve Pikiell looks primed to lead the Scarlet Knights out of the wilderness. The talent level is on the rise, and there is a new commitment to defense. Deshawn Freeman could become a force on the interior. You know Corey Sanders can fill ‘er up.

All-Big Ten

First Team
Miles Bridges, Michigan State
Ethan Happ, Wisconsin
Mortiz Wagner, Michigan
Nate Mason, Minnesota
Bryant McIntosh, Northwestern

Second Team
Vincent Edwards, Purdue
Scottie Lindsey Northwestern
Jordan Murphy, Minnesota
Jaren Jackson, Michigan State
Tyler Cook, Iowa

Third Team
Jae’Sean Tate, Ohio State
Dakota Mathias, Purdue
Tony Carr, Penn State
Nick Ward, Michigan State
Amir Coffey, Minnesota

Top newcomers
F Jaren Jackson, Michigan State
G Isaiah Washington, Minnesota
F Nathan Reuvers, Wisconsin
F Nojel Eastern, Purdue
G Darryl Morsell, Maryland

Top shooters
Dakota Mathias, Purdue
Justin Jackson, Maryland
Duncan Robinson, Michigan
Ryan Cline, Purdue
Jordan Bohannon, Iowa

Top defenders
Reggie Lynch, Minnesota
Ethan Happ, Wisconsin
Vic Law, Northwestern
Dakota Mathias, Purdue
Mike Watkins, Penn State

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We know this can't be right. Iowa always has someone on the first all BIG team right. Com'n dude. Give us our props! :D
 
I won't beat a guy up for saying 7th, but 13-5 Big Ten season.
 
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I'll take that bet Tom. We will have a double bye in the BTT this year.
When he picked Wisconsin 4th after losing 4 starters I stopped reading!
 
Badgers don't make 4th or better this year,.... weak journalism.

People have been saying this for years...and yet they find a way. I get with the law of averages its bound to happen sooner than later, but I wouldn't consider it weak journalism to suggest Wisconsin will do something they've done for more than 10 years in a row.
 
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responses and prediction after these graduated then how they finished.
Gatens graduated 9th or worse as who was going to replace him,
9-9 6th alone, 25 wins and the NIT Championship Game
Marble graduated 7th or worse 12-6 T-3rd.
White graduated 7th or worse 12-6 T-3rd
Uthoff with 3 other seniors 10th or worse 10-8 T-5th
Jok graduates 7th or worse by some publication
this in spite of returning 11 players and these that started at some point last season
SO Williams, FR Bohannon, FR Cook, FR Pemsl, FR Moss and SO Wagner.

Dienart is a fool and Lunardi doesn't even have them in his initial field of 68.
 
Just a prediction. I think he has Iowa underrated and Purdue over at first glance. Swanigan made that team go. Wisconsin will be interesting to watch. Should be a fun winter of hoops. Man has Illinois slipped from the elite.
 
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Regular season much more important than B1G Tournament.
Maybe. But I would like Iowa to have a better showing in Big Ten tourney. Fran is 2-7 with losses to 10,11,12, and 13th seed the last 4 years. I just priced a flight and rooms in New York City. 5 nights and air fare for $575. Gambling Iowa makes NCAA tourney and took that week off in March and will skip Big 10 tourney.
 
I could see us finishing anywhere from 4-9, it all just depends on who becomes that guy to take the shot in late game situations or gets that basket when we desperately need it. I think our defense will be better and if Garza can be somewhat close to the player he was overseas we could go 13-5 and maybe get a 5-6 seed. I think this year we are so close to breaking out or falling way back.
 
I agree that Michigan St will dominate this year and win the conference. However, there is a ton of gray after them which includes Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland, and Northwestern; those four teams will duke it out for spits 2-5 and all get 9 or higher seeds in the NCAA tournament.

No I did not forget about Purdue. I am not overly convicmced of Painters a coaching abilities given how he did not do more with what he has had the past few years. Furthermore, it's not just on a coach to know who to adapt but also on the players; Purdue has leaned so much on Swanigan that I don't think these remaining guys will be able to compensate for the void he leaves.

Finally, Wisconsin is not going to be a top 4 in a loaded B1G. That run everyone talks about took some luck too; the B1G was not always strong when Wisconsin was down a bit plus Bo Ryan is gone now. Their best player is one of the worst free throw shooters I have ever seen (about Shaq level). I hate when predictions are based upon the hot hand theory. That's not a prediction, it's a repeat of previous years until things change; then it's just reacting.
 
I could see us finishing anywhere from 4-9, it all just depends on who becomes that guy to take the shot in late game situations or gets that basket when we desperately need it. I think our defense will be better and if Garza can be somewhat close to the player he was overseas we could go 13-5 and maybe get a 5-6 seed. I think this year we are so close to breaking out or falling way back.
Bohannon showed he is that guy as the kid has ice in his veins.
 
I could definitely see this. The conference is loaded this year. Until Iowa becomes at least adequate on defense, middle of the pack seems about right.
 
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I agree that Michigan St will dominate this year and win the conference. However, there is a ton of gray after them which includes Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland, and Northwestern; those four teams will duke it out for spits 2-5 and all get 9 or higher seeds in the NCAA tournament.

No I did not forget about Purdue. I am not overly convicmced of Painters a coaching abilities given how he did not do more with what he has had the past few years. Furthermore, it's not just on a coach to know who to adapt but also on the players; Purdue has leaned so much on Swanigan that I don't think these remaining guys will be able to compensate for the void he leaves.

Finally, Wisconsin is not going to be a top 4 in a loaded B1G. That run everyone talks about took some luck too; the B1G was not always strong when Wisconsin was down a bit plus Bo Ryan is gone now. Their best player is one of the worst free throw shooters I have ever seen (about Shaq level). I hate when predictions are based upon the hot hand theory. That's not a prediction, it's a repeat of previous years until things change; then it's just reacting.

I'm going on record right now and make this prediction....if the BIG is truly as good as some are indicating, Michigan State will not breeze through the BT as most predict and Iowa will have it's say on who makes the NCAA tournament. At least 5 to 7 teams will have a chance to reign as champs of the Big Ten....
 
My prediction: Wisconsin will not finish in the top five this year but Iowa will.

Can't wait to tip this thing off!
 
I think Purdue & Minny are gonna be mild disappointments. Purdue will have a tough time replacing Swaggy's production.
 
  1. Streets & Smith have us at #5
  2. I think anywhere from 2 - 5 if healthy all year
  3. I forgot don't dare play Dailey cuz he's so bad we'll get last ;)
 
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I could definitely see this. The conference is loaded this year. Until Iowa becomes at least adequate on defense, middle of the pack seems about right.
This^^^. And I'm not talking about the season defensive stats, or any such nonsense. I'm talking about - end of a close game, put the clamps on the other team - kind of defense. Until we learn to do that, I don't see us getting to a BIG title.
 
Just a prediction. I think he has Iowa underrated and Purdue over at first glance. Swanigan made that team go. Wisconsin will be interesting to watch. Should be a fun winter of hoops. Man has Illinois slipped from the elite.

I am going to get a peek tomorrow:)
 
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