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Trump’s F.B.I. Pick Has an Enemies List. Biden Should Pardon Everyone on It.

And, again, you ONLY criticize Biden; even after called on it. Given that our income president is a vengeful sociopath, it would seem prudent for an outgoing President to provide protection for likely innocent victims given the extraordinary circumstances.

But tell me you voted for Trump without saying it.
Why wouldn’t I “only” criticize Biden on this subject? He’s the one that’s going to be handing out pardons the next couple months.

You do enough “but Trumping” for the both of us 😁
 
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And, again, you ONLY criticize Biden; even after called on it. Given that our income president is a vengeful sociopath, it would seem prudent for an outgoing President to provide protection for likely innocent victims given the extraordinary circumstances.

But tell me you voted for Trump without saying it.
While Trump & (possibly if confirmed) Patel are vengeful fools, there's the argument that
A) Being pardoned helps to validate the perception by MAGA that there indeed was something significantly wrong these people did.
B) Invites lots of negative attention to said individual.
C) Most of these would-be cases would be demonstrated to be political folly and get nowhere in the courts.
 
While Trump & (possibly if confirmed) Patel are vengeful fools, there's the argument that
A) Being pardoned helps to validate the perception by MAGA that there indeed was something significantly wrong these people did.
B) Invites lots of negative attention to said individual.
C) Most of these would-be cases would be demonstrated to be political folly and get nowhere in the courts.
"Helps?" 😂 The swamp is terrified and these shithouse rats are in a frenzy because they are dirty and the ship is sinking!!
 
"Helps?" 😂 The swamp is terrified and these shithouse rats are in a frenzy because they are dirty and the ship is sinking!!
Right. I don't believe you have strong arguments against many of the people on the Patel list. You're part of the conservative hive-mind and consume low quality partisan information that creates an extremely distorted view of reality.
 
Right. I don't believe you have strong arguments against many of the people on the Patel list. You're part of the conservative hive-mind and consume low quality partisan information that creates an extremely distorted view of reality.
Link to the "Patel list?" You know, the one he himself crafted and submitted for execution?
 
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The left recognizing how many criminals run their filth operation is a good start towards recovery imo
 
And nobody gets their panties in a bunch more than you. Maybe Tom….but it’s close.
You're wrong about basically everything, bins...why should this be any different? I mean I do get frustrated with people like yourself who choose to be ignorant, but there's nothing I can do about it but laugh at you. Nobody here makes simple concepts more difficult than you. Maybe FG...but it's close.
 
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While Trump & (possibly if confirmed) Patel are vengeful fools, there's the argument that
A) Being pardoned helps to validate the perception by MAGA that there indeed was something significantly wrong these people did.
B) Invites lots of negative attention to said individual.
C) Most of these would-be cases would be demonstrated to be political folly and get nowhere in the courts.
You're right for sure, but I think you realize that when Joe pardons someone like Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney, it's not because he thinks they are criminals. It's to protect them from Trump's DoJ. I know you get that. bins and others right of him think she's just as much of a criminal as Roger Stone. They either believe that or they are choosing to force a both sides into something that anyone who thinks logically can see there isn't an actual equivalency.

Hunter might be the only crook he pardons...and it's his kid. If Patel had never threatened Hunter, I would be disappointed that Joe pardoned him. But Patel did, and I get it, as a father.

Again, lets see how many criminals Joe actually pardons and compare that to what Trump did and is about to do.
 
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So no list he set forth, just names he mentioned in his book? Next?! 🤡
It's an actual list.

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And nobody gets their panties in a bunch more than you. Maybe Tom….but it’s close.
90% of my posts on here anymore are while I'm working. Calling out your bullshit is nothing more than a pastime for me so I can assure you that your idiotic posts have never "got my panties in a bunch."

Making fun of you is like bouncing a tennis ball against a wall and catching it. Easy, boring, but it's more entertaining than not doing anything at all. And you just continue to be absolutely blind to how stupid you appear to the vast majority on this board. Keep doin' you, man. You're so moderate. So independent.
 
No, it is not. The director of the FBI doesn't come in with an enemies list and go from there. Good god.
Doesn't matter if he likes them or not, if they are suspected of crimes they need to be investigated just like Donald Trump was...over and over and over and over and over...... No?
 
Doesn't matter if he likes them or not, if they are suspected of crimes they need to be investigated just like Donald Trump was...over and over and over and over and over...... No?
Depends if it's an issue the FBI usually handles.

For example... if an official like Faucci lied under oath. How is that historically handled?
 
90% of my posts on here anymore are while I'm working. Calling out your bullshit is nothing more than a pastime for me so I can assure you that your idiotic posts have never "got my panties in a bunch."

Making fun of you is like bouncing a tennis ball against a wall and catching it. Easy, boring, but it's more entertaining than not doing anything at all. And you just continue to be absolutely blind to how stupid you appear to the vast majority on this board. Keep doin' you, man. You're so moderate. So independent.
I take that as a compliment coming from you. 😀
 
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You just made my point. You did you. It’s funny and sad at the same time.
Actually no. The only person missing the point in this thread is you Tom.
What’s different about Hunters pardon is Joe tacked on a 10 year get out of jail free card.


He didn’t just pardon him for what he was found guilty of….. he pardoned him for whatever he’s done since 2014. Now he’s supposedly contemplating preemptively pardoning other folks in his administration. Probably more family members to boot.

That’s new and different but seems to escape you.
 
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Also seems like an incredibly irresponsible and dangerous nominee to head the FBI, no?

I'm only asking because in the 3 page thread about Patel, you only trolled Tom. You never commented on the nominee. Yet in this very short thread, you immediately denounce the actions that haven't even been mentioned by Biden yet.
He had no choice? It was either the coup guy who wants to wield the government as a cudgel against all who don't bend the knee, or the WOC with the weird laugh. What was BinZ supposed to do?
 
He had no choice? It was either the coup guy who wants to wield the government as a cudgel against all who don't bend the knee, or the WOC with the weird laugh. What was BinZ supposed to do?
That’s some “heavy lifting” right there.
 
That’s some “heavy lifting” right there.
Don't worry, you'll be fine, BoTH SiDZ. Vivek, Kash, Tulsi, RFK Jr, the Project 2025 crowd and Eloon are just going to go after the homo kids, the non whites, and women of child bearing years. There is no way they'd go after those pork laden VA benefits. You earned those. Sure, some people will have to tighten their belts and give up a few things, but you'll be fine.
 
You're right for sure, but I think you realize that when Joe pardons someone like Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney, it's not because he thinks they are criminals. It's to protect them from Trump's DoJ. I know you get that. bins and others right of him think she's just as much of a criminal as Roger Stone. They either believe that or they are choosing to force a both sides into something that anyone who thinks logically can see there isn't an actual equivalency.

Hunter might be the only crook he pardons...and it's his kid. If Patel had never threatened Hunter, I would be disappointed that Joe pardoned him. But Patel did, and I get it, as a father.

Again, lets see how many criminals Joe actually pardons and compare that to what Trump did and is about to do.
I get why Biden might do that, but I have my doubts it's a good move ultimately. I tend to think the legal system will clean it up and the Trump admin will look weak.

Someone made the point that Patel has with that list informed everyone of his intentions. Any judge is going to be aware of this and it will work against him.
 
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Considering Bidens dementia we are going to need some sort of proof at some point that he actually the one issuing pardons and is mentally capable of doing so.
 
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Defintely not who I would have chosen :)

Regardless...preemptive pardons are a horrible idea and unprecedented.

Are these going to be broad pardons for any crimes these folks may have committed during their time working for the administration? That's nuts.

What if some of these folks that are pre-emptively pardoned actually committed crimes?

Horrible precedent.


You have to admit, it is also a horrible precedent for the incoming President to admit to a plan to conduct a retribution tour. And for one of his appointees to have a list of people they plan on targeting. Isn't that a bad precedent?
 
You have to admit, it is also a horrible precedent for the incoming President to admit to a plan to conduct a retribution tour. And for one of his appointees to have a list of people they plan on targeting. Isn't that a bad precedent?
Yes.
 
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You have to admit, it is also a horrible precedent for the incoming President to admit to a plan to conduct a retribution tour. And for one of his appointees to have a list of people they plan on targeting. Isn't that a bad precedent?
You mean prosecuting the people that have bastardized justice to attack their political opponents? That list? Americans want those assholes in jail.
 
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