Trump: 'I love the poorly educated'

[cigaretteman]

Democrat Bernie Sanders may have a plan to make college tuition free, but Republican Donald Trump is perfectly fine with people shunning higher education.

They are, after all, helping him cruise in the early voting states.


“I love the poorly educated,” Trump said.
He immediately followed that up by pointing to the crowd and saying “we’re the smartest people.”

Entrance polls showed he won among nearly every segment of voters on Tuesday, including Hispanics, where an MSNBC poll had him with at 44 percent support among that group.

“You know what I am really happy about? I’ve been saying it for a long time: 46 percent with Hispanics,” Trump said. “No. 1 with Hispanics.”

Multiple polls during the campaign cycle have shown that Trump is completely dominating the less-educated voter base.

Trump bursts onto scene, crashes Glenn Beck's caucus speech
An ABC News/Washington Post poll in September showed that 71 percent of non-college graduates had a favorable opinion of Trump. In October, he had the largest share of support among those with a “high school or less” education level in a Pew Research Center poll.

The education level of a candidate’s voter base has traditionally been important because studies show those who have achieved higher education are more likely to vote.

That’s another area where Trump is shaking things up and bucking the trend, based on Tuesday’s turnout in Nevada. It was so huge that some locations were running out of ballots and the issues were so massive that some compared them to the “holes in the Titanic.”

http://national.suntimes.com/national-world-news/7/72/2648355/trump-love-poorly-educated

 

[jscott78]

What do we expect? The system has utterly failed those people. Ignored them, mocked them, the list goes on. They've had it with the political class and their never ending games. Trump figured this out and tapped into their anger. Props to him.

Democrat Bernie Sanders may have a plan to make college tuition free, but Republican Donald Trump is perfectly fine with people shunning higher education.

They are, after all, helping him cruise in the early voting states.


“I love the poorly educated,” Trump said.
He immediately followed that up by pointing to the crowd and saying “we’re the smartest people.”

Entrance polls showed he won among nearly every segment of voters on Tuesday, including Hispanics, where an MSNBC poll had him with at 44 percent support among that group.

“You know what I am really happy about? I’ve been saying it for a long time: 46 percent with Hispanics,” Trump said. “No. 1 with Hispanics.”

Multiple polls during the campaign cycle have shown that Trump is completely dominating the less-educated voter base.

Trump bursts onto scene, crashes Glenn Beck's caucus speech
An ABC News/Washington Post poll in September showed that 71 percent of non-college graduates had a favorable opinion of Trump. In October, he had the largest share of support among those with a “high school or less” education level in a Pew Research Center poll.

The education level of a candidate’s voter base has traditionally been important because studies show those who have achieved higher education are more likely to vote.

That’s another area where Trump is shaking things up and bucking the trend, based on Tuesday’s turnout in Nevada. It was so huge that some locations were running out of ballots and the issues were so massive that some compared them to the “holes in the Titanic.”

http://national.suntimes.com/national-world-news/7/72/2648355/trump-love-poorly-educated

 

[TexMichFan]

If he says he loves the poorly educated you hate him. If he says he hates the poorly educated you hate him. Pretty sure you just hate him.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

colleges are just liberal commie re-education camps and are enemies of the state

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

Nice try cig, he was going through all the groups he won in Nevada which was pretty much all of them and he said he won highly educated, won poorly educated then said he loved them.

 

[jscott78]

colleges are just liberal commie re-education camps and are enemies of the state

enemas of the state.

 

[naturalmwa]

colleges are just liberal commie re-education camps and are enemies of the state

Why do you think we want to make everyone go?

 

[The Tradition]

colleges are just liberal commie re-education camps and are enemies of the state

 

[ottumwan in tx]

I had some sort of mind experiment done on me in iowa in the 1970's , which is propbably going to be a subject of a book by somebody at some point, in the education system, I don't think we need feds or state governments doing things to kids

 

[Raglefant]

I had some sort of mind experiment done on me in iowa in the 1970's , which is propbably going to be a subject of a book by somebody at some point, in the education system, I don't think we need feds or state governments doing things to kids

Full frontal lobotomy?

 

[theVoicefromtheTomb]

I had some sort of mind experiment done on me in iowa in the 1970's , which is propbably going to be a subject of a book by somebody at some point, in the education system, I don't think we need feds or state governments doing things to kids

Aliens?

 

[thewop]

While he was simply quoting groups he won with, Trump says what other candidates won't. All candidates love the poorly educated. Take away the poorly educated, and Obama's turnout was probably much lower than Romney's... Just a reality. This year it may be different in a Hillary vs. Trump election. I still don't believe Trump will be the nominee, but I'm starting to waiver...

 

[Eternal Return]

If he says he loves the poorly educated you hate him. If he says he hates the poorly educated you hate him. Pretty sure you just hate him.

I think it's the phrasing: "poorly educated." It's as condescending as saying "I love stupid people because they vote for me no matter what I say or do." Hell, he's getting away with mocking his own supporters so, well, I guess he's right. I never thought of the movie "Idiocracy" as anything but bad comedy until Trump came along and demonstrated that "the future is now!"

 

[lawsonhawk]

I had some sort of mind experiment done on me in iowa in the 1970's , which is propbably going to be a subject of a book by somebody at some point, in the education system, I don't think we need feds or state governments doing things to kids

 

[MplsHawk]

I think it's the phrasing: "poorly educated." It's as condescending as saying "I love stupid people because they vote for me no matter what I say or do." Hell, he's getting away with mocking his own supporters so, well, I guess he's right. I never thought of the movie "Idiocracy" as anything but bad comedy until Trump came along and demonstrated that "the future is now!"

I doubt that it was his idea to label the category "poorly educated", and per the cut and paste article above, he said of the poorly educated “we’re the smartest people.” I don't think he is mocking his supporters.

 

[Eternal Return]

colleges are just liberal commie re-education camps and are enemies of the state

ROFL! Where exactly do you think everyone working on Wall Street was educated? How about engineers? Architects? Accountants? Managers? Lawyers? Doctors? Surgeons? Nurses? Software engineers? Network specialists? Chemists? Geologists? Need I go on? LOL!

 

[The Tradition]

ROFL! Where exactly do you think everyone working on Wall Street was educated? How about engineers? Architects? Accountants? Managers? Lawyers? Doctors? Surgeons? Nurses? Software engineers? Network specialists? Chemists? Geologists? Need I go on? LOL!

A university college of business offers some shelter against the raging liberal storm on campus (except for the economics department).

 

[Eternal Return]

I doubt that it was his idea to label the category "poorly educated", and per the cut and paste article above, he said of the poorly educated “we’re the smartest people.” I don't think he is mocking his supporters.

Yes, that's the condescending and insulting part, saying that the poorly educated are the smartest people. At best, he's placating, but I doubt the "smartest people" know the definition of that word. As far as "we" goes, Trump was educated at the Kew Forest School (a prep school), Fordham University, and the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. He's not even remotely in the category of "poorly educated" and yet he said "We're the smartest people." He knows none of his followers are going to follow that up to check if e's telling the truth because -- duh! -- they'e "poorly educated" (i.e., lazy and dumb).

 

[MplsHawk]

Yes, that's the condescending and insulting part, saying that the poorly educated are the smartest people. At best, he's placating, but I doubt the "smartest people" know the definition of that word. As far as "we" goes, Trump was educated at the Kew Forest School (a prep school), Fordham University, and the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. He's not even remotely in the category of "poorly educated" and yet he said "We're the smartest people." He knows none of his followers are going to follow that up to check if e's telling the truth because -- duh! -- they'e "poorly educated" (i.e., lazy and dumb).

The point is that he lets them know he identifies with them. I don't think it matters whether they fact check his education, or give a damn about it. He didn't condescend, he identified himself in a group with them. That is an effective method of gaining support from a group. Don't get me wrong, I don't want him to get the nomination, but I think that this is no big deal and not what it is being made out to be.

 

[Eternal Return]

A university college of business offers some shelter against the raging liberal storm on campus (except for the economics department).

How about medical schools? The "hard sciences" (chemistry, physics, biology)? Mathematics and computer science? Law schools? Sociology? And much more. And the idea that all of the disciplines within the Humanities being liberal ... you should attend some history, philosophy, anthropology, etc. Philosophy, for example: Rousseau, Locke, Mill, for starters, came up with many of the ideas that forged the United States. Many ideas from neoconservatives came from Leo Strauss and other philosophy professors at the University of Chicago, hardly a liberal institution. Most of the historically best universities and colleges are extremely conservative and their students have gone on to produce most of the country's wealth since the very beginning of the U.S. It's a bizarre distortion to claim that universities are liberal institutions. Money and prestige are what universities try to generate most.

 

[MplsHawk]

Law schools?

Should have left that one out. Law schools are very liberal places.

 

[The Tradition]

Should have left that one out. Law schools are very liberal places.

As are colleges of nursing. Union recruiters climbing all over those halls.

 

[Eternal Return]

The point is that he lets them know he identifies with them. I don't think it matters whether they fact check his education, or give a damn about it. He didn't condescend, he identified himself in a group with them. That is an effective method of gaining support from a group. Don't get me wrong, I don't want him to get the nomination, but I think that this is no big deal and not what it is being made out to be.

He's lying; he's not poorly educated. He is pandering to them, giving them spoonfuls of sugar, and his supporters are all about instant gratification. They are the human equivalents of the rats in the cage frantically pressing the lever to get more cocaine in their system. They have attention deficits, at the very least. I think Trump is doing a great job of lying, condescending, placating, and pandering to the base instincts of the lowest common denominator. That's been a growing segment of the population over the past 35 years so it's a smart political move. The good news (for me) is that a lot of his supporters won't be able to sustain their anger long enough to get to the polls in a general election and if it looks they might then there will be a MASSIVE showing by Democratic voters--which will also hurt Republicans running for congress, state legislatures, governorships, etc. He's a nightmare for the Republican Party. I love him for that reason alone. I'll say this: I would never invite a Trump supporter into my house. I'm guessing it's easier to potty train dogs.

 

[Eternal Return]

Should have left that one out. Law schools are very liberal places.

Ha! Not even close. They are quite a mix. Depends on the school. Where do you think all the high-paid lawyers who work for firms representing Monsanto, Citi, Chase, Walmart, etc., were educated? There are for more private firms and corporate lawyers in the U.S. than nonprofit lawyers. And lawyers in government are a mix between Democrats and Republicans.

 

[The Tradition]

Ha! Not even close. They are quite a mix. Depends on the school. Where do you think all the high-paid lawyers who work for firms representing Monsanto, Citi, Chase, Walmart, etc., were educated? There are for more private firms and corporate lawyers in the U.S. than nonprofit lawyers. And lawyers in government are a mix between Democrats and Republicans.

With a mere fifteen sober and dignified months left in this presidential election cycle, a new study appears on the political predilections of America’s lawyers. This is significant: while “Rule of Law” is our national aspiration, “rule by lawyers” is what we know. For example, both a majority of current Senators and all U.S. presidents are, or were, lawyers. Of course, the political influence of lawyers is not limited to elected officials; lawyers contribute political donations at a rate about ten times higher than the general U.S. population.

Comes now The Political Ideologies of American Lawyers, a data-rich study by professors from Stanford, Chicago, and Harvard which maps out the links between political ideology and the American legal profession. It’s the most extensive analysis of the politics of U.S. lawyers ever conducted. Download the paper here.

TL;DR Version:

Data on ideological leanings is from the Database on Ideology, Money in Politics, and Elections (DIME). The DIME data leverages campaign contributions to assess an individual’s ideological leaning. Lawyer info is from the Martindale-Hubbell. (We refer you to the paper itself for a full account of the methodology.)

This analysis takes contributions data and rescales them according to an ideological scoring system (“CFscores” ) created by Adam Bonica of Stanford, one of the paper’s authors. CFscores range from -2 (the liberal extreme) to 2 (the conservative counterpart). For some context, Hilary Clinton has a score of -1.16, while her husband comes in at -0.68.

Here are 10 notable findings from the study:

• The modal CFscore for American lawyers is -0.52 (i.e., tilting liberal but closer to Bill than Hilary)
• There are relatively few “centrist” lawyers: more have an ideology closer to Bernie Sanders or Paul Ryan than do near Olympia Snowe on the spectrum
• Of the top 25 largest U.S. legal markets, only three have more conservative lawyers than liberal lawyers: Atlanta, Dallas, and Phoenix
• Lawyers as a group are more conservative than technology workers, journalists, and academics, but more liberal than bankers, accountants and MDs
• Law professors overlap ideologically with no other category of lawyer except public defenders and entertainment lawyers, who are the only types nearly as liberal
• While they do not lean as far to the left as public defenders, prosecutors are actually more liberal than lawyers overall
• Alumni from all the T14 law schools lean to the left, with Berkeley having the most liberal graduates of all the elite law schools
• Alumni from schools ranked 100 or higher by U.S. News, are the most conservative. The two most conservative law schools are both located in Alabama (Cumberland School of Law and the University of Alabama)
• While entertainment law is the most liberal law firm practice, the most conservative lawyers are in the oil and gas group
• All of the “V20” Biglaw firms have a liberal mean CFscore. The most liberal: Quinn Emanuel. The most conservative V20 firm is Jones Day, with a (still slightly liberal) CFscore of -0.213

http://abovethelaw.com/2015/09/the-...es-of-american-lawyers-law-schools-and-firms/

 

[Herkmeister]

colleges are just liberal commie re-education camps and are enemies of the state

Things will be sooooo much better when IT'S FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[naturalmwa]

With a mere fifteen sober and dignified months left in this presidential election cycle, a new study appears on the political predilections of America’s lawyers. This is significant: while “Rule of Law” is our national aspiration, “rule by lawyers” is what we know. For example, both a majority of current Senators and all U.S. presidents are, or were, lawyers. Of course, the political influence of lawyers is not limited to elected officials; lawyers contribute political donations at a rate about ten times higher than the general U.S. population.

Comes now The Political Ideologies of American Lawyers, a data-rich study by professors from Stanford, Chicago, and Harvard which maps out the links between political ideology and the American legal profession. It’s the most extensive analysis of the politics of U.S. lawyers ever conducted. Download the paper here.

The TLDR Version:

Data on ideological leanings is from the Database on Ideology, Money in Politics, and Elections (DIME). The DIME data leverages campaign contributions to assess an individual’s ideological leaning. Lawyer info is from the Martindale-Hubbell. (We refer you to the paper itself for a full account of the methodology.)

This analysis takes contributions data and rescales them according to an ideological scoring system (“CFscores” ) created by Adam Bonica of Stanford, one of the paper’s authors. CFscores range from -2 (the liberal extreme) to 2 (the conservative counterpart). For some context, Hilary Clinton has a score of -1.16, while her husband comes in at -0.68.

Here are 10 notable findings from the study:

• The modal CFscore for American lawyers is -0.52 (i.e., tilting liberal but closer to Bill than Hilary)
• There are relatively few “centrist” lawyers: more have an ideology closer to Bernie Sanders or Paul Ryan than do near Olympia Snowe on the spectrum
• Of the top 25 largest U.S. legal markets, only three have more conservative lawyers than liberal lawyers: Atlanta, Dallas, and Phoenix
• Lawyers as a group are more conservative than technology workers, journalists, and academics, but more liberal than bankers, accountants and MDs
• Law professors overlap ideologically with no other category of lawyer except public defenders and entertainment lawyers, who are the only types nearly as liberal
• While they do not lean as far to the left as public defenders, prosecutors are actually more liberal than lawyers overall
• Alumni from all the T14 law schools lean to the left, with Berkeley having the most liberal graduates of all the elite law schools
• Alumni from schools ranked 100 or higher by U.S. News, are the most conservative. The two most conservative law schools are both located in Alabama (Cumberland School of Law and the University of Alabama)
• While entertainment law is the most liberal law firm practice, the most conservative lawyers are in the oil and gas group
• All of the “V20” Biglaw firms have a liberal mean CFscore. The most liberal: Quinn Emanuel. The most conservative V20 firm is Jones Day, with a (still slightly liberal) CFscore of -0.213

http://abovethelaw.com/2015/09/the-...es-of-american-lawyers-law-schools-and-firms/

The TLDR Version is twice as long as the original bit.

 

[ferentzin04]

Why do you think we want to make everyone go?

Lol. Nice work with the Schmitts Gay gif. Fitting.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

ROFL! Where exactly do you think everyone working on Wall Street was educated? How about engineers? Architects? Accountants? Managers? Lawyers? Doctors? Surgeons? Nurses? Software engineers? Network specialists? Chemists? Geologists? Need I go on? LOL!

yes and the vast vast majority of those are commies. How many of those do you know who are alex jones libertarian patriot types?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Ciggy, the man says that he loves you and you want to bust his balls over it?

 

[MplsHawk]

Ha! Not even close. They are quite a mix. Depends on the school. Where do you think all the high-paid lawyers who work for firms representing Monsanto, Citi, Chase, Walmart, etc., were educated? There are for more private firms and corporate lawyers in the U.S. than nonprofit lawyers. And lawyers in government are a mix between Democrats and Republicans.

I stand by my statement. Law schools are pretty liberal places, as are college campuses. A majority of law students go right from undergraduate school to law school and continue with their liberal views. Faculty tend to be liberal. Working in the real world is where some people, including some lawyers, make their shift to more conservative view points.

 

[MplsHawk]

He's lying; he's not poorly educated. He is pandering to them, giving them spoonfuls of sugar, and his supporters are all about instant gratification. They are the human equivalents of the rats in the cage frantically pressing the lever to get more cocaine in their system. They have attention deficits, at the very least. I think Trump is doing a great job of lying, condescending, placating, and pandering to the base instincts of the lowest common denominator. That's been a growing segment of the population over the past 35 years so it's a smart political move. The good news (for me) is that a lot of his supporters won't be able to sustain their anger long enough to get to the polls in a general election and if it looks they might then there will be a MASSIVE showing by Democratic voters--which will also hurt Republicans running for congress, state legislatures, governorships, etc. He's a nightmare for the Republican Party. I love him for that reason alone. I'll say this: I would never invite a Trump supporter into my house. I'm guessing it's easier to potty train dogs.

Who is to say what constitutes poorly educated? There isn't a strict definition to justifiably say that he is lying. You are right, he is pandering to them. He is not condescending to them. For an example of condescension regarding these "poorly educated" people, you could reread your post.

 

[Herkmeister]

I stand by my statement. Law schools are pretty liberal places, as are college campuses. A majority of law students go right from undergraduate school to law school and continue with their liberal views. Faculty tend to be liberal. Working in the real world is where some people, including some lawyers, make their shift to more conservative view points.

AGREE 100%

 

[Hawk in SEC Country]

Nice try cig, he was going through all the groups he won in Nevada which was pretty much all of them and he said he won highly educated, won poorly educated then said he loved them.

Why would you EVER want to bring context into this?