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Trump says congressional investigators should examine why Pence didn’t reject electoral college results

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When will the GOP party leaders tell this POS to STFU?:

Former president Donald Trump on Tuesday advocated a new focus for congressional investigators: why then-Vice President Mike Pence did not take steps on Jan. 6, 2021, to reject electoral college votes from several states won by Joe Biden.

Trump’s exhortation came two days after he created an uproar with a statement suggesting Pence should have “overturned” the election as he presided over the counting of electoral college votes by Congress.
In a fresh statement Tuesday, Trump offered a more nuanced take on what he would have liked to have seen from Pence, saying he “could have sent the votes back to various legislators for reassessment after so much fraud and irregularities were found.”
Trump suggests Pence should have ‘overturned’ the election on Jan. 6
There has been no evidence of widespread fraud that would have changed the election results in any of the battleground states won by Biden.


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In his role as president of the Senate, Pence was at the Capitol to preside over the counting of the electoral votes on the day when a pro-Trump mob breached the building in an effort to prevent him from officially affirming Biden’s win.
Pence repeatedly told Trump in the lead-up to Jan. 6 that he did not have the power to overturn the 2020 election, and Trump would regularly ask him to listen to other advisers or read other arguments that said he did.









Biden’s Capitol insurrection anniversary speech, in 3 minutes








On Jan. 6, President Biden said that “we are in a battle for the soul of America” in a speech marking the one-year anniversary of the violent Capitol mob. (Blair Guild/The Washington Post)
Members of both parties are looking at changes to the Electoral Count Act, a law that governs what Congress should do in the case of any disputes about which candidate won in a state. Among the changes under consideration is making it more explicit that the role of the vice president is merely ceremonial.

Trump in recent days has seized on the latter issue, claiming it bolsters his case that Pence did have power to reject votes from some states. Democratic lawmakers have rejected that interpretation, saying they are trying to remove any ambiguity from the law.


In his statement Tuesday, Trump took renewed aim at the House select committee examining the Jan. 6 insurrection, saying it was filled with “political hacks, liars, and traitors.”
Trump said a better focus for the committee would be “why Mike Pence did not send back the votes for recertification or approval, in that it has now been shown that he clearly had the right to do so!”
Pence’s former chief of staff, Marc Short, is among those who have testified before the select committee investigating the attack on the Capitol.

Short appeared before the committee last week, according to people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. Pence does not plan to appear before the committee, but besides Short, Pence’s top lawyer, Greg Jacob, is expected to appear.


Members of the mob that day shouted “Hang Mike Pence!” and erected a gallows on the west side of the Capitol. As the building was under siege, Pence and his family were whisked into a hideaway, narrowly escaping the attackers, before being taken to a more secure location elsewhere in the complex.

Former vice president Mike Pence on June 3 said he doesn't know whether he'll “see eye-to-eye” with former president Donald Trump about the Jan. 6 insurrection. (The Washington Post)
Pence is expected to address and defend his decision to certify the election during a speech Friday in Florida to the Federalist Society.
Trump and Pence are both expected to appear at a Republican donor retreat in New Orleans in early March. Pence allies have said he will consider a presidential bid, even if Trump runs for the White House again.

 
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By Aaron Blake
Staff writer
Today at 10:41 a.m. EST


Two days after affirming he had wanted Vice President Mike Pence to pursue the most drastic of efforts to overturn the 2020 election — by trying to do it himself — former president Donald Trump would apparently like something of a mulligan.

A new statement from Trump on Tuesday morning is ostensibly about attacking the Jan. 6 committee — going so far as to suggest it should actually investigate Pence for not going along with Trump’s scheme.
But if you drill down, what the statement really seems to be about, in large part, is walking back his comments on precisely what that scheme entailed.
There were basically two options Trump and his allies wanted Pence to pursue: having Pence declare Trump the winner by rejecting certain states’ election results, or merely having Pence declare states’ results to be in dispute and sending the matter back to them. Both were drastic and undemocratic ideas predicated on bogus claims of widespread voter fraud and on the idea that the House, in which a majority of delegations are controlled by Republicans, would follow up by making Trump the winner. But the former was certainly more drastic.



Yet that’s what Trump said Sunday that Pence should have done.
“Actually, what they are saying is that Mike Pence did have the right to change the outcome, and they now want to take that right away,” Trump said Sunday, while discussing efforts to clarify the Electoral Count Act. “Unfortunately, he didn’t exercise that power, he could have overturned the Election!”
On Tuesday, though, Trump very conspicuously focused only on the latter option, mentioning it twice in the course of a characteristically false series of claims.

Trump said the Electoral Count Act reform effort shows that “the Vice President did have this right or, more pointedly, could have sent the votes back to various legislators for reassessment after so much fraud and irregularities were found.”

The “more pointedly” is doing a lot of work here. Trump’s use of it makes clear this is intended to suggest his goal might have been the supposedly more-benign option — no matter what he said Sunday.


To drive the point home, Trump returned at the end of his statement to the idea that sending it back to the states was what Pence should have and could have done — rather than, apparently, trying to overturn the election himself.
“Therefore, the Unselect Committee should be investigating … why Mike Pence did not send back the votes for recertification or approval, in that it has now been shown that he clearly had the right to do so!” Trump concluded.

Exactly why Trump is shifting the focus to this latter option is a valid question to ask. Trump has pulled back on such admissions before, and his critics often believe it’s because he or someone around him has recognized the potential legal jeopardy that accompanied them. Trump faces not only a congressional Jan. 6 investigation in which some are floating potential crimes Trump might have committed, but also a criminal investigation in Fulton County, Ga. That latter probe involves evidence that Trump was far less concerned about actual evidence of fraud than with getting something to lay a predicate for overturning his loss.






Certainly, admitting that he wanted Pence to try to overturn the election himself gives the lie to the idea this was about anything other than Trump winning. Numerous people around Trump have said the idea Trump promoted Sunday was “crazy,” illegal and even “un-American,” as Pence himself put it last summer. The idea is that it speaks to Trump’s true intent. At the very least, it makes it very difficult for Republicans who talk about “irregularities” and “perceptions” of fraud to continue pretending this wasn’t what it transparently was.
And Trump had focused more on this less-drastic option, at least publicly. While he suggested in a Jan. 5, 2021, statement that the unilateral Pence option was on the table and available, much of his public commentary focused on sending the matter back to the states. That’s likely because it was the most practical option — given Pence wasn’t keen on going along with the scheme — but also because it fit more neatly with what other Republicans were willing to go along with.
Sunday’s statement only reinforced what Trump truly wanted, though. And Tuesday’s walk-back was a rather feeble attempt to pretend otherwise.

 
Pence talking to Trump today...
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I know that he isn't very smart, but it's like he's trying to talk his way into being indicted. Then the money would come gushing in from the cult. Plus, he'd get so much press!!
 
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Trump is pretty much the only thing that might prevent the republicans from taking the House. I'm absolutely amazed that many are doubling down on him. He's toxic. It's plain to see for everyone except the extreme right.
 
Trump is pretty much the only thing that might prevent the republicans from taking the House. I'm absolutely amazed that many are doubling down on him. He's toxic. It's plain to see for everyone except the extreme right.
Well, you know, some people just don't have a choice on whether to vote for him or not.
 
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