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Trump Verdict Predictions

Your choice?

  • Guilty

    Votes: 42 35.9%
  • Not Guilty

    Votes: 9 7.7%
  • Hung Jury/Mistrial

    Votes: 66 56.4%

  • Total voters
    117
Others testified that Cohen never did anything to help anyone out unless he thought something was in it for him. So it would no sense why a guy like this would take a second mortgage on his house to pay off a porn star his boss banged unless he fully expected to be paid back and then some.
 
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The gal Trump banged and his best employee for years, you mean?

I would think they make for pretty good witnesses.

Of course they are cretinous liars - that is all Trump surrounds himself with.

This is like a mob trial - all those involved are shady and shitty.

Which really is just another thing to put on the pile of why it’s insane this piece of shit is a major party POTUS candidate and a great indictment on the failures of the GOP.
Agree. Do they cancel the testimony of the guy who actually input the charge as “Legal fees” in the ledger? Again, they have to prove he did this to cover up a crime he knew he committed. Which any moron would have hid it under “construction costs” or somewhere way less obvious than the man who made the actual payment.
 
Agree. Do they cancel the testimony of the guy who actually input the charge as “Legal fees” in the ledger? Again, they have to prove he did this to cover up a crime he knew he committed. Which any moron would have hid it under “construction costs” or somewhere way less obvious than the man who made the actual payment.
How do you hide repayments to his lawyer as construction costs? Hiding them as legal fees is the logical place you would place them under.
 
How do you hide repayments to his lawyer as construction costs? Hiding them as legal fees is the logical place you would place them under.
Because if you’re knowingly breaking the law, you’re not showing a $110,000 payment to the guy who helped you break the law. You’re arguing that he lied and broke the law doing so, but “wouldn’t lie that much!”
 
Agree. Do they cancel the testimony of the guy who actually input the charge as “Legal fees” in the ledger? Again, they have to prove he did this to cover up a crime he knew he committed. Which any moron would have hid it under “construction costs” or somewhere way less obvious than the man who made the actual payment.

is the guy who said he wasn’t told by trump to put them as legal fees the same person in jail for perjury? perjury for lying in a trial at that..
 
Because if you’re knowingly breaking the law, you’re not showing a $110,000 payment to the guy who helped you break the law. You’re arguing that he lied and broke the law doing so, but “wouldn’t lie that much!”
How else do you disguise it? Cohen took a second mortgage out to pay off Stormy. He has to get his money back somehow. Claiming it's for legal purposes is the most logical way to do it. Anything else looks immediately fishy.
 
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is the guy who said he wasn’t told by trump to put them as legal fees the same person in jail for perjury? perjury for lying in a trial at that..
No clue. But does that make him less believable than Cohen, who admitted to stealing and lying under oath before? It’s a complete shit show.
 
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No clue. But does that make him less believable than Cohen, who admitted to stealing and lying under oath before? It’s a complete shit show.
Cohen's word isn't worth anything. But his documents and tapes are. And they make things incredibly difficult for Don.
 
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How else do you disguise it? Cohen took a second mortgage out to pay off Stormy. He has to get his money back somehow. Claiming it's for legal purposes is the most logical way to do it. Anything else looks immediately fishy.
It doesn’t matter if he knowingly or unknowingly broke the law. If you break the law you break the law. It’s not the laws fault you’re too stupid to cover it up properly or not.
 
It doesn’t matter if he knowingly or unknowingly broke the law. If you break the law you break the law. It’s not the laws fault you’re too stupid to cover it up properly or not.
This is part of the reason why I think Trump is screwed. He personally approved of these payments which were claimed to have been for legal fees. Clearly Don knew he was doing something wrong otherwise he would have claimed that they were for their actual purpose.
 
This is part of the reason why I think Trump is screwed. He personally approved of these payments which were claimed to have been for legal fees. Clearly Don knew he was doing something wrong otherwise he would have claimed that they were for their actual purpose.
It’s a known fact he has skated by for decades doing shady shit with money. He is finally being held accountable. Even as silly as it seems for maga land.
 
A bunch of guys, who weren't in the courtroom, thinking they know whether the evidence provided proved or didn't prove something is GIAOT at it's finest.
You crushed it. The trial wasn't even on TV and I gaurentee most people who are certain of anything in this thread got their info from a source that aligns with their political beliefs.

I've seen reports from outlets both left and right and you would think it's two different trials.
 
Do you think the jury will buy that Allen Weisselberg and Michael Cohen conspired to commit fraud to cover up an affair that neither man committed? That’s kind of it, isn’t it?
A statement that completely ignores the fact they stood to gain by making the payments for Trump. Either by currying favor or financially.
 
This is part of the reason why I think Trump is screwed. He personally approved of these payments which were claimed to have been for legal fees. Clearly Don knew he was doing something wrong otherwise he would have claimed that they were for their actual purpose.
Idk, it all depends on how the jury interprets the statute. Do they feel what happened fits it.
 
Miscellaneous thoughts and predictions...

1. The better proposition would have been something like "over/under on number of charges for which convicted". He'll be convicted, but I have no idea of how many charges because I really have not followed the details to that level. Juries, when presented with documentation cases, have a tendency to fall back to the documentation when they are faced with witnesses who are not angels.
2. In the unlikely event that he is not convicted, Chis will have the most serious case of blue balls on your side of the Mississippi.
3. Following his conviction, Trump will secure licensing rights to use "Jesus Dropped the Charges" at his campaign rallies.

Good lord listen to me, it's like I'm thinking this is all going to turn out the like the ending to Tom Wolfe's A Man in Full.
 
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If one thinks guilt has been proven after the Daniels and Cohen testimonies then they are truly wearing partisan Team Blue glasses.
Shocking that as a lawyer yourself you don't understand why the prosecution led with David Pecker, and followed on with lots of Trump friendly witnesses like Hope Hicks. It wasn't Cohen and Daniels, it was all of the other witnesses and the texts and emails that make Cohen and Daniels credible.
Pushing a TeAM Red narrative doesn't make you look very credible with your legal analysis here.
 
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It doesn’t matter if he knowingly or unknowingly broke the law. If you break the law you break the law. It’s not the laws fault you’re too stupid to cover it up properly or not.
It does matter here since he’s being charged with fraud with the intent to cover up a crime. He would have had to know he was breaking the law to purposely cover it up. The prosecution’s problem is it’s not illegal to pay hush money to someone. So he had to prove that Trump knew he broke a NY Campaign law and then covered it up.
 
Miscellaneous thoughts and predictions...

1. The better proposition would have been something like "over/under on number of charges for which convicted". He'll be convicted, but I have no idea of how many charges because I really have not followed the details to that level. Juries, when presented with documentation cases, have a tendency to fall back to the documentation when they are faced with witnesses who are not angels.
2. In the unlikely event that he is not convicted, Chis will have the most serious case of blue balls on your side of the Mississippi.

3. Following his conviction, Trump will secure licensing rights to use "Jesus Dropped the Charges" at his campaign rallies.

Good lord listen to me, it's like I'm thinking this is all going to turn out the like the ending to Tom Wolfe's A Man in Full.
1. The instructions, as I understand them, allow an offramp to vote not guilty on the charges related to the checks Trump did not sign. FWIW, MSNBC talking lawyer said that a verdict that contains a mix of guilty and not guilty is better for government during the appeals process. It shows the jury was thoughtful and was not swayed unfairly.
2. And, if convicted, chances that some poster here assembles some pipe bombs?
 
1. I have no doubt trump knowingly paid stormy Daniels to be quiet about their sexy time...o_O (no pukeface emoji).

2. This all seems like a real stretch, and I see why the feds passed it up.

3. The fact that the Judge and the Prosecutor stated their intention to get Trump shortly before any of this was brought up makes it feel more than a little slimy. This feels like an attack on a former president by a couple people in power with a political agenda, and that's not a good precedent to set.

I voted "guilty," but I don't think that's what's best for anyone involved.
Read up: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/15/trump-hush-money-case-history-00152172
 
1. Not a crime to have an affair.
2. Not a crime to pay someone to not discuss an affair.
3. Statute of limitations has run out on a possible misdemeanor charge for falsifying business records, so this no longer applies.
4. The "other" crime that these activities supposedly might have been done in furtherance of has yet to be definitively identified and charged by the prosecution.

Only in New York...
You need to slow down. The election isn't until November. Your other handles should do the same.
 
1. The instructions, as I understand them, allow an offramp to vote not guilty on the charges related to the checks Trump did not sign. FWIW, MSNBC talking lawyer said that a verdict that contains a mix of guilty and not guilty is better for government during the appeals process. It shows the jury was thoughtful and was not swayed unfairly.
2. And, if convicted, chances that some poster here assembles some pipe bombs?
Correct as to mixed verdicts; i have no idea as to the instructions since, as noted, I'm not paying much attention to the details of all of this.

I think there is a very low probability that one of the posters here will do so, but in the broader community, perhaps. But as to my original proposition #2, bet the house.
 
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Don't think a jury member can hide being a MEGA-stooge for very long. Can't have a convo with one for 10 minutes without them shouting their identity about it.

Guilty. Probation, hefty fine, no jail time.
The fact that Biden Admin has already announced he will hold a press conference about the verdict tells me they already know he will be found guilty.
 
The fact that Biden Admin has already announced he will hold a press conference about the verdict tells me they already know he will be found guilty.
wasn't that the bobby de niro debacle from yesterday?
 
Miscellaneous thoughts and predictions...

1. The better proposition would have been something like "over/under on number of charges for which convicted". He'll be convicted, but I have no idea of how many charges because I really have not followed the details to that level. Juries, when presented with documentation cases, have a tendency to fall back to the documentation when they are faced with witnesses who are not angels.
2. In the unlikely event that he is not convicted, Chis will have the most serious case of blue balls on your side of the Mississippi.
3. Following his conviction, Trump will secure licensing rights to use "Jesus Dropped the Charges" at his campaign rallies.

Good lord listen to me, it's like I'm thinking this is all going to turn out the like the ending to Tom Wolfe's A Man in Full.
I doubt old Donnie knows that gospel ditty, but thanks for sharing it. My dad listened to gospel music quite a bit and I've been exposed to a number of groups over the years but I'd never heard of the O'Neal Twins until today.
 
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