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Turkish Tufts Graduate Student Detained by ICE

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Details to come out, but supposedly she is here legally on a proper student visa. DHS is saying the arrest is valid because she “engaged in activities in support of Hamas" but has not specified anything further. She did write an OpEd in the student newspaper in support of Gaza but that is all I can find.

Too early to tell if she is really "engaged in activities to support Hamas" and it will be the government's responsibility to support this claim. If true, I'd support deportation.

However, if it's just words of support in an OpEd or participating in non-violent protest - would you support this response? I would not and this is pretty freaky.

Also, the arrest itself is freaky as shit. Six plain clothes officers converge on a 20-something woman? Minimal announcement of who they are until she's detained? Won't pull down masks? Kudos to whomever spoke up and asked who the phuck they are. Shady as phuck. I'm not a fan. She has been sent out of Massachusetts to Louisiana.

Depending on the details, I could see this case becoming a litmus test for how this administration is handling deportations. If she is not engaging in "active support of Hamas," is here legally, and has done everything right but is only giving an opposing viewpoint that is unpopular to those in power....and this is the response? THAT is not America.

 
All of a sudden, she is gone. No way for her family or friends to see her. It's incredible what is happening.

Yeah, it's pretty creepy. Like I said, if she is not engaging in "active support of Hamas," is here legally, and has done everything right but is only giving an opposing viewpoint that is unpopular to those in power - this is gross as phuck.

I can see why authoritarian troglodytes would love it though.
 
Yeah, it's pretty creepy. Like I said, if she is not engaging in "active support of Hamas," is here legally, and has done everything right but is only giving an opposing viewpoint that is unpopular to those in power - this is gross as phuck.

I can see why authoritarian troglodytes would love it though.
Depends on what you mean by "active support of Hamas", but even if she was vocalizing support for them, what ICE did here would still be illegal. Removing political opposition or dissenting opinions is not legal in this country due to 1A.
 
I can see the distinction between a citizen and a visa student. Let the courts figure it out, Trump is still below the Mendoza line there as President

The courts said she couldn't be removed from Massachusetts. ICE ignored the court and moved her to a privately owned prison in Louisiana. The private prison companies apparently need the money.
 
I can see the distinction between a citizen and a visa student. Let the courts figure it out, Trump is still below the Mendoza line there as President
Nope. Illegal immigrants have the same constitutional protections as US citizens, and she wasn't even illegal.

Eventually, the Supreme Court extended these constitutional protections to all aliens within the United States, including those who entered unlawfully, declaring that aliens who have once passed through our gates, even illegally, may be expelled only after proceedings conforming to traditional standards of fairness encompassed in due process of law.3 The Court reasoned that aliens physically present in the United States, regardless of their legal status, are recognized as persons guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.4 Thus, the Court determined, [e]ven one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection.

 
My friend who has lived in this country 20 years, has a job, owns a house, and has kids is currently in detention upon returning from a trip from a friendly country to visit an ailing family member. He is here legally. This is as much predictable as it was preventable.

Where is the outrage from my fellow Christians? Have we become so detached from the suffering of others we just dgaf? Come on man.
 
I can see the distinction between a citizen and a visa student. Let the courts figure it out, Trump is still below the Mendoza line there as President
Doesn't this fall under the State Departments purview as to who is granted or has their Visas or green cards revoked?
 
My friend who has lived in this country 20 years, has a job, owns a house, and has kids is currently in detention upon returning from a trip from a friendly country to visit an ailing family member. He is here legally. This is as much predictable as it was preventable.

Where is the outrage from my fellow Christians? Have we become so detached from the suffering of others we just dgaf? Come on man.
I'm no Christian but this is how nations fail. We are clearly descending into fascism as the constitution dissolves in front of our eyes; with the treasonous assholes on the right cheering it on.
 


Details to come out, but supposedly she is here legally on a proper student visa. DHS is saying the arrest is valid because she “engaged in activities in support of Hamas" but has not specified anything further. She did write an OpEd in the student newspaper in support of Gaza but that is all I can find.

Too early to tell if she is really "engaged in activities to support Hamas" and it will be the government's responsibility to support this claim. If true, I'd support deportation.

However, if it's just words of support in an OpEd or participating in non-violent protest - would you support this response? I would not and this is pretty freaky.

Also, the arrest itself is freaky as shit. Six plain clothes officers converge on a 20-something woman? Minimal announcement of who they are until she's detained? Won't pull down masks? Kudos to whomever spoke up and asked who the phuck they are. Shady as phuck. I'm not a fan. She has been sent out of Massachusetts to Louisiana.

Depending on the details, I could see this case becoming a litmus test for how this administration is handling deportations. If she is not engaging in "active support of Hamas," is here legally, and has done everything right but is only giving an opposing viewpoint that is unpopular to those in power....and this is the response? THAT is not America.


Deport her.
 
My friend who has lived in this country 20 years, has a job, owns a house, and has kids is currently in detention upon returning from a trip from a friendly country to visit an ailing family member. He is here legally. This is as much predictable as it was preventable.

Where is the outrage from my fellow Christians? Have we become so detached from the suffering of others we just dgaf? Come on man.

Christians....

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Do you think she should be held in some unknown place until then?

No, of course not. Though I’m not sure it’s unknown. But I also know that you need to pick your battles and there are far more important things than putting a student on a visa that writes pro-Hamas pieces at the top of the list. The courts will get to this, I’m sure.
 
this is thug intimidation. IF she did something terrible/threatening, pick her up but if that were the case you'd have an reason ready to go.
 
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No, of course not. Though I’m not sure it’s unknown. But I also know that you need to pick your battles and there are far more important things than putting a student on a visa that writes pro-Hamas pieces at the top of the list. The courts will get to this, I’m sure.
Link to pro-Hamas piece? Here's the only thing I could find - I suggest people read it before repeating false claims.

 
My friend who has lived in this country 20 years, has a job, owns a house, and has kids is currently in detention upon returning from a trip from a friendly country to visit an ailing family member. He is here legally. This is as much predictable as it was preventable.

Where is the outrage from my fellow Christians? Have we become so detached from the suffering of others we just dgaf? Come on man.
  • Matthew 24:5: "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many."
 
We were told that only the illegal immigrants that broke the law would be deported. She is not Illegal nor did anything illegal. How can anyone defend this?
They're actively cheering as constitutional rights are being stripped away from brown people but are too ****ing stupid to realize that due process is not selective, if they remove it for some, they can remove it for anyone.
 
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No, of course not. Though I’m not sure it’s unknown. But I also know that you need to pick your battles and there are far more important things than putting a student on a visa that writes pro-Hamas pieces at the top of the list. The courts will get to this, I’m sure.
How can you just sit back and say this is OK. And yes no one knows where they took her. Be careful of what you ask for. You just might be next.
 
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