I can't imagine UCLA having a wrestling team.
Hell they can't even get 5k spectators at a football game.
Hell they can't even get 5k spectators at a football game.
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There will sadly never be equality…..not as long as women continue to suck at sports that is.
They average around 40,000 fans per game. Not quite USC numbers but still pretty good. Unfortunately there isn’t much of a market for wrestling in LA county. Been dealing with that reality for over 30 years.I can't imagine UCLA having a wrestling team.
Hell they can't even get 5k spectators at a football game.
And that's with giving tens of thousands of tickets away for FREE.
On average, 20k of tickets were given away for each game.
That's so bad.
Athletic Directors are also completely hung up on the first test of Title IX. I know of one school (hint: They've dropped wrestling twice in this century alone) that specifically said "the survey costs too much to do Prong Three, and since we've dropped women's sports before, we're not eligible to do Prong Two (never mind that that's absolute horse-hockey)"...and I can imagine that (now former, thankfully) Athletic Director is not alone in the mindset of Prong Three.
To their credit, and I will mention them specifically by name, Missouri does use Prong Three. If they hadn't, wrestling would have likely gone poof the instant they joined the SEC.
Personally I think it should become a Big Ten requirement to offer every sport available. The extra revenue should be able to cover the expenses.
I am all for more opportunities for every athlete in every sport.
Not sure where we play beach volleyball though
Who’s Caitlin? Are we going takedowns or a full live go?
Sorry but after all that you said. It just isn't so. The scholarships were apportioned decades ago and were based on an approximate 50/50 split in men vs women in the campus makeup. If the schools are now at 60% women and 40% men which is the national average, then adding wrestling for both wouldn't make it in compliance. The truth is that in all likelihood they are not 100% compliant. The NCAA allows schools to compete if they are moving towards compliance. Anyway, if they added both wrestling programs, they could add less than 7 scholarships for men if they added the maximum of 10 for women. You won't be competitive at the men's level and the NCAA isn't going to let you intentionally become farther out of compliance.
It's nowhere near as simple as you made it.
Fine.
You all win. I will never advocate for the addition of Wrestling programs again.
I will just get stuck in the reality that's its just to hard to figure out a way to do it.
Wow. This isn't even remotely true. Men's football and in some places men's basketball pay all of the bills. Iowa some years may be able to add wrestling but that would be way outside the norm. All other sports generally run in the red financially. Heck women's basketball actually lost more money than any other women's sports at around $4.5 million due to higher expenses than other sports. like travel, and salaries and lower ticket prices.Personally I think it should become a Big Ten requirement to offer every sport available. The extra revenue should be able to cover the expenses.
I am all for more opportunities for every athlete in every sport.
Not sure where we play beach volleyball though
Um, I was speaking about the extra TV money from football.
Yes every other program outside of football and men's basketball loose money.
And I was being a bit tongue in cheek. It would probably cost north of 50 million a year to add every sport....and even the new income will not cover that much
Don’t understand why anyone would think that USC or UCLA should add any sports. As it stands, USC currently sponsors eight BigTen sports for men, the same as Iowa, Maryland, and Northwestern. UCLA sponsors nine, the same as Minnesota. Both schools also sponsor two sports that the BigTen does not, volleyball and water polo.
Short term pain. Cali and Nevada has just been ahead of the curve on womens wrestling for a while....numbers help (read, population).... with the expanse and eventual quality growing, it soon will not matter geographically. Give it 3-4 years and you will see national recruiting, akin to mens wrestling
If that were a requirement, of course, the Big Ten would have exactly two institutions (Michigan and Ohio State), and only Penn State is one sport away (women's rowing). Every single other Big Ten institution would have to add at least four sports to stay compliant. (I'm only counting the 28 sports sponsored by the Big Ten, for those wondering)Personally I think it should become a Big Ten requirement to offer every sport available. The extra revenue should be able to cover the expenses.
I am all for more opportunities for every athlete in every sport.
Not sure where we play beach volleyball though
Well I was joking as it would be financially impossible....but getting to 28...that's do able. What ten, 15 million extra a year?
Yes I know it isn't going to happen. Will just keep dreaming of a day where there are more opportunities for those who excel in minor sports.
...and hell if the NAIA can do womens flag football, why not the Big Ten?
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I coached at a school that dropped wrestling and they did take a survey. The results were overwhelmingly in favor of keeping the men's sports as there was not enough interest in creating a women's team in anything.
The survey never saw the light of day. It got buried because the women in the administration wanted men's sports gone and the AD wanted to give more money to football.
Thank goodness some schools have ADs that do not hate wrestling and the women are not calling the shots. Although I will say this - the women in sports do not seem to hate men as much as they used to. I guess it is a different generation.
Not true. There was a lawsuit and later settlement. Womens Wrestling added to get closer to the 60/40 proportionality. Women's wrestling did not exist and was not part of any lawsuit. It was Barta and clan that piggybacked on the men's program and new announced facility to solve their problem.
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