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unless he was sick no reason for Kueter not to go in the second match. Needs as many opportunities to wrestle these bigger guys he can get

He was indeed under the weather. Army guy was the U23 champ and was huge compared to Red. Just couldn’t get inside and stay out of his underhooks. Couldn’t get his offense going but neither did the other guy.
 
lol relax. He would have destroyed that guy. It won’t make any difference.

I like that tonight’s lame complaints are that we wrestled too many backups. Coming in 6-8 weeks: These guys are burnt out from too much mat time. Should have gone easier on them before Christmas.

Amazing stuff.
He won 8-2 over a lower “ranked” guy for what rankings are worth. He didn’t destroy him. I get not having to wrestle every match but I think tonight would have been helpful to him.
 
$2.99 well spent on UFC Pass. Our hammers are fun to watch, and it's been a while since we've had this many hammers. (So perhaps I should say $1 million well spent.)

Neither Cruz nor Schriever have been able to transition to the physicality of D1 wrestling. Both have skills and conditioning and heart. But the missing ingredient is a big one.

Anyone know why Petersen and Block didn't make the trip?

Was good to see Estrada and K Voinovich, despite the flukey pin. (The 8-pound difference came into play there, and he already wrestles a bit high-risk, but both have entertaining styles.)

Arnold showed some vulnerabilities, but we were both confident he'd win that one in the end.

Parco, Caliendo, Kennedy, Buchanan...who gets the MVP tonight?

TV production was good--liked their use of the split screen for replays vs. the standard miss-the-first-ten-seconds-of-the-next-period. Once again, lowered the volume and synced to KXIC.
 
Ain't nobody worried about Block having too many matches before Christmas. We are curious if he's any good...

Your point would be valid if we were resting some of our 6th year senior starters... but they were out there rolling.

Block was bad against ISU. He doesn’t get to wrestle by default. A benching is a time proven motivational tactic. Stop acting like two matches in early December are making or breaking seasons.

I also didn’t realize only 6th year guys could get ground down over the course of the season. That’s a new one.

He won 8-2 over a lower “ranked” guy for what rankings are worth. He didn’t destroy him. I get not having to wrestle every match but I think tonight would have been helpful to him.

Oh well. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
 
Best $25 I ever spent. Fun atmosphere. Sitting about 15 feet from T & T. Could hear every syllable. Classicly funny dialogue. I should have written some of it down.

Any of you hard-core types familiar with the 2 refs?

The banter w/ T & T and the refs almost seemed "staged" ala WWE. They bitch at each other when the audience is there and they know everyone can hear, but are likely drinking buddies behind closed doors...

I think the head and ASSociate head coach from Army would like to pile-drive Tom B.;) There was some funny s%$t going back and forth early along in that duel. The old man was staring at Tom with a "this dude is psycho" look on his face...

Talked to PK briefly afterward. Love seeing him succeed. Buchanan signing a lot of stuff. Got a great pic with him also. Great Hawks! SB is a bad bad man.

Don't recall seeing the number of body slams in awhile.
 
Anyone know why Petersen and Block didn't make the trip?
I was really hoping Cruz would spend the off season living in the weight room. The kid has the talent to do well if he would put on more size. I feel like that was a missed opportunity for him. As stated Block made the trip but wasn't available. There were a few guys with a nasty bug over the last week(not saying this is why Block did or didn't wrestle). Some cleared earlier in the week and could go. Some couldn't. It seems like it goes through the room 2 or 3 times a year, and affects a handful each time. It was nice seeing the effort out of the new guys in the line up. Tough loss for KV. He was giving up a lot of size but I felt he really brought it.
 
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tv annoucner could not belive the pk was going to Tech an army wrestler
Gabe on a leg
Iowa may be lost a team point
fight for the seoncd leg
body lcoked
3pint Td for Gabe and waived off
Gabe still fighting
Christ ontop and puts gabe to his back
5 point move
1 :16
Gabe almost rolls though o the restart but oob
50 seconds left
 
I was really hoping Cruz would spend the off season living in the weight room. The kid has the talent to do well if he would put on more size. I feel like that was a missed opportunity for him. As stated Block made the trip but wasn't available. There were a few guys with a nasty bug over the last week(not saying this is why Block did or didn't wrestle). Some cleared earlier in the week and could go. Some couldn't. It seems like it goes through the room 2 or 3 times a year, and affects a handful each time. It was nice seeing the effort out of the new guys in the line up. Tough loss for KV. He was giving up a lot of size but I felt he really brought it.
Thought VV may get a match at 157 instead of his freshman brother. Is he still recovering from knee surgery last year??
 
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Best $25 I ever spent. Fun atmosphere. Sitting about 15 feet from T & T. Could hear every syllable. Classicly funny dialogue. I should have written some of it down.

Any of you hard-core types familiar with the 2 refs?

The banter w/ T & T and the refs almost seemed "staged" ala WWE. They bitch at each other when the audience is there and they know everyone can hear, but are likely drinking buddies behind closed doors...

I think the head and ASSociate head coach from Army would like to pile-drive Tom B.;) There was some funny s%$t going back and forth early along in that duel. The old man was staring at Tom with a "this dude is psycho" look on his face...

Talked to PK briefly afterward. Love seeing him succeed. Buchanan signing a lot of stuff. Got a great pic with him also. Great Hawks! SB is a bad bad man.

Don't recall seeing the number of body slams in awhile.
The two refs are great guys. Pete M and Matt Z, been refs in MO for years and two of the best. I believe Pete has been doing college for many years and does big time duals and even Big10 tournaments, etc. Matt does a lot of college stuff as well but I think that's just been the last several years. Great guys that are in it for the right reasons and will do anything to help the sport and/or a friend.
 
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The two refs are great guys. Pete M and Matt Z, been refs in MO for years and two of the best. I believe Pete has been doing college for many years and does big time duals and even Big10 tournaments, etc. Matt does a lot of college stuff as well but I think that's just been the last several years. Great guys that are in it for the right reasons and will do anything to help the sport and/or a friend.
I can attest to this. They have both been family friends for decades. Zietz actually was on the whistle for one of my state title match’s …..decades ago. What’s even more crazy? These two have ref’d 4 generations of my family’s wrestlers. (I’ve been the ONLY one NOT to get hit with an unsportsmanlike conduct). 😂
 
The two refs are great guys. Pete M and Matt Z, been refs in MO for years and two of the best. I believe Pete has been doing college for many years and does big time duals and even Big10 tournaments, etc. Matt does a lot of college stuff as well but I think that's just been the last several years. Great guys that are in it for the right reasons and will do anything to help the sport and/or a friend.
I thought Matt had a bad night against Army, but normally neither official are ones I cringe at seeing prior to meets. They do seem like genuinely nice guys also.
 
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