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May or September, Coaches or sportswriters, from the responses on this thread its a hard pill to swallow. No wonder Iowa fans want them off their schedule
Iowa State won their last trip to Lincoln, too. The Hawkeye state just owns bugeater stadium, huh?
 
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It is your analysis that is weak. All of your credibility is lost when you mention the QB position at ISU. Your mention of historical depth sinks you as well. Don't give up your day job. How good do you think the Iowa QB is?
I think the Iowa QB will go in the first round of the 2020 draft.
 
It is your analysis that is weak. All of your credibility is lost when you mention the QB position at ISU. Your mention of historical depth sinks you as well. Don't give up your day job. How good do you think the Iowa QB is?

You’re joking, right?
 
And one team to the playoffs which is conveniently overlooked.
What one year out of four? Impressive.......... So one year they finally let the big 12 or whatever they are join the dance. In all honesty if Iowa hadn't rolled OSU, then their in the playoff instead of OK, and the big whatever is still waiting for a seat at the table. Your welcome, by the way...........:rolleyes:
 
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What one year out of four? Impressive.......... So one year they finally let the big 12 or whatever they are join the dance. In all honesty if Iowa hadn't rolled OSU, then their in the playoff instead of OK, and the big whatever is still waiting for a seat at the table. Your welcome, by the way...........:rolleyes:
Not much chance of that since OU emphatically settled that at the shoe. It didn't matter how much herby lobbied for OSU, they weren't worthy and the horrible showing in Iowa City just made sure they had no chance. Btw, OU has been in the playoff twice.
 
Not much chance of that since OU emphatically settled that at the shoe. It didn't matter how much herby lobbied for OSU, they weren't worthy and the horrible showing in Iowa City just made sure they had no chance. Btw, OU has been in the playoff twice.
Ah yes, the one team LEAGUE, that is the little 12. OU in football and KU in basketball. As I said IMPRESSIVE! By the way don't bet that OU would have gotten in over OSU. Had OSU run the table, the fact that OU lost to lowly ISU later in the year, at home, may have trumped their season opening win over the Buckeyes.
 
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I’m just curious, but you only can start one QB, RB, and ISU usually plays only one TE, correct? Depth is nice but when I discuss what I like about Iowa this coming year isn’t how good our tight ends are after Fant or how deep our DE’s are after AJ. No offense to Lone Clone but feel like he is reaching a bit.
 
The QB rating for the hawk QB is 134.
The QB rating for the Clone QB is 146.
As usual, some here a very slow on comprehension. .......not joking at all

Judas priest this stupid argument again. ISU played 3 defenses in the top 50 last year and 2 of them were Iowa and Texas when Park started and TCU was only one Kempt faced when they won 14-7. Iowa faced 4 in the top 20 alone and 8 in the top 50. Meanwhile Kempt faced teams such as Kansas, Texas Tech, WVU in the bottom quarter and in the bowl Memphis who was ranked around 120th in the nation good for the bottom 10. Do I need to link the stats again for national team defense after last time you made this idiotic argument? You want to talk about slow on comprehension it doesn't take a genius to figure this out and i'm not joking at all either.

What's next you'll say some QB in the MAC who put up better #s than the Georgia or Auburn QBs is better too?
 
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I’m just curious, but you only can start one QB, RB, and ISU usually plays only one TE, correct? Depth is nice but when I discuss what I like about Iowa this coming year isn’t how good our tight ends are after Fant or how deep our DE’s are after AJ. No offense to Lone Clone but feel like he is reaching a bit.

I was thinking the same thing. Personally even though he was a loose cannon Park who is gone to who knows where would have scared me more than facing Kempt. RB I'll agree Montgomery is a stud but if he gets hurt there is a big drop off as evident in the KState game. But returning both TEs who didn't even combine for 10 rec last year. Yes they return a good one in Butler and few others at WR that played but they also lost 3 of top 4 WR from year ago. They have guys with some experience replacing them but they aren't as good as those 3 or they'd have started over those 3 last year. Interesting to see how much of a drop off because as much as some here had fun joking about Lazard not getting drafted he was a damn fine college WR and took a lot of focus from other teams D that freed up some of the other guys and reason he was the best ever WR at ISU and Murdock under rated guy who had a really good game vs Iowa last year.
 
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Am I supposed to understand that one team played better defenses than the other? AND that it is easier to put up better statistics against poor defenses? That my friends is an awful lot to expect from people with 'Wejun' in their handle. The rest of us understand this simple concept.
 
Then bet the under. I will book your bet at any amount you want to wager.

You are the same guy that shot his mouth off about Mitrou Long beating Peter Jok in the 3 point contest. Bet $100 to “any takers” and I accepted. You never paid up. Changed your username but it was you. Making wagers you have no intent of owning up to again.
 
Ah yes, the one team LEAGUE, that is the little 12. OU in football and KU in basketball. As I said IMPRESSIVE! By the way don't bet that OU would have gotten in over OSU. Had OSU run the table, the fact that OU lost to lowly ISU later in the year, at home, may have trumped their season opening win over the Buckeyes.
I thought it was the Texas ten....you folks are slipping
 
You are the same guy that shot his mouth off about Mitrou Long beating Peter Jok in the 3 point contest. Bet $100 to “any takers” and I accepted. You never paid up. Changed your username but it was you. Making wagers you have no intent of owning up to again.
Huh? You are clearly mistaken.
 
Judas priest this stupid argument again. ISU played 3 defenses in the top 50 last year and 2 of them were Iowa and Texas when Park started and TCU was only one Kempt faced when they won 14-7. Iowa faced 4 in the top 20 alone and 8 in the top 50. Meanwhile Kempt faced teams such as Kansas, Texas Tech, WVU in the bottom quarter and in the bowl Memphis who was ranked around 120th in the nation good for the bottom 10. Do I need to link the stats again for national team defense after last time you made this idiotic argument? You want to talk about slow on comprehension it doesn't take a genius to figure this out and i'm not joking at all either.

What's next you'll say some QB in the MAC who put up better #s than the Georgia or Auburn QBs is better too?
The flip side of that coin is the offenses were so bad in the B10 that the defense statistics were falsely inflated. They say defense wins championships but ironically no B10 team made the playoffs. The proof is in the results.
 
I thought it was the Texas ten....you folks are slipping
As usual your dodging responses because your aware you don't have a leg to stand on. The Texas ten moniker is because Texas's purse strings have controlled much of the decision making in your morbid "conference", and led to the departure of Nebraska and Missouri. As for who controls the prestige of the conference on the field of play, there's is no argument to be made, but your aware of that I would hope.
 
The flip side of that coin is the offenses were so bad in the B10 that the defense statistics were falsely inflated. They say defense wins championships but ironically no B10 team made the playoffs. The proof is in the results.
For one year. And how many years has the big 12 not had a team in. Hell for years they couldn't even decide how to set up a format for how to decide WHO was the conference champ........
 
1. I'm as impressed with May rankings as I should be, which means NOT AT ALL. Just posted in this thread to make a little joke about Lazard getting bypassed in the draft.

2. Offense: The top two quarterbacks, top two tight ends and top four running backs are coming back. Butler is back at one WR spot and Deshaunte Jones, who played a lot, at another. Two other experienced WR are back. There are guys with starting experience at all spots in the OL, but that's still the area on offense that concerns me most.

3. Defense: Lima is an outstanding DL and Johnson had some excellent games. Two of the three starting linebackers return. The corners who started the Liberty Bowl return. Safety is a question.

This is the time of the year to be optimistic, and I am, cautiously so. But Campbell's teams have not started strong, and the early schedule is very challenging. The first seven games comprise Iowa, Oklahoma, TCU, Oklahoma State and West Virginia, three of them on the road, as well as home games with Akron and South Dakota State..
That’s a magnificently weak schedule besides the Iowa game. Most of those teams are Big12 teams. Should be easy wins.
 
You are the same guy that shot his mouth off about Mitrou Long beating Peter Jok in the 3 point contest. Bet $100 to “any takers” and I accepted. You never paid up. Changed your username but it was you. Making wagers you have no intent of owning up to again.

This. I would place a bet with this asshat, but no chance he will pay. I would say it would be good enough if he would just leave for good, but he will just change his name and come back.
 
The flip side of that coin is the offenses were so bad in the B10 that the defense statistics were falsely inflated. They say defense wins championships but ironically no B10 team made the playoffs. The proof is in the results.

I don’t even know where to start with the stupid in this post.
 
This. I would place a bet with this asshat, but no chance he will pay. I would say it would be good enough if he would just leave for good, but he will just change his name and come back.
Pay the $$ and move to the inner hawk fan circle. My guess would be that you wouldn't fit in there either.
 
The flip side of that coin is the offenses were so bad in the B10 that the defense statistics were falsely inflated. They say defense wins championships but ironically no B10 team made the playoffs. The proof is in the results.

Way to change the narrative the fact is it's not about the offensives its about the defenses. But funny those Big 10 offenses had no problem winning bowl games vs other teams. But I forget when proving a point with facts you just deflect and change the subject.

Yeah no big 10 teams made the playoffs so Big 12 had the best team of the 2 but after that the DEPTH of the conference and with teams ranked Big 10 far out succeeded the Big 12. How many national titles have the Big 12 had in playoff era? How many times have they had a team make it let alone win a game? Funny proof is in the results again thanks for proving my point that Stanley played tougher defenses therefore poking major holes in your lame comparison.
 
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It is your analysis that is weak. All of your credibility is lost when you mention the QB position at ISU. Your mention of historical depth sinks you as well. Don't give up your day job. How good do you think the Iowa QB is?

Iowa’s quarterback is going to be the number one overall pick either in 2019 or 2020.

Not joking. Nate Stanley has ideal measurables and the ability to make throws into tight windows. He rarely makes mistakes with the ball. He needs to work on mastering Iowa’s offense with the presnap reads mostly, but that will come with time in the offense. He’ll finally have a good recieving corps this year and will be able to show off his true potential this year in my opinion.
 
Probably with paying my debts and not paying to be on a rival’s message board where my posts confirm what an idiot I am but carry on with your stupidity and welching on bets please.
In a haze are We? Let's be elementary here for you. This is not a pay site. Why don't you pay to be on the rivals subscription site for hawk fans?
 
And one team to the playoffs which is conveniently overlooked.
And that playoff team lost to Iowa State at home and wouldn't have made it if they played the schedule of a real conference.....you know, one that plays defense. The big12 is a joke, enjoy your reality.
 
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Way to change the narrative the fact is it's not about the offensives its about the defenses. But funny those Big 10 offenses had no problem winning bowl games vs other teams. But I forget when proving a point with facts you just deflect and change the subject.

Yeah no big 10 teams made the playoffs so Big 12 had the best team of the 2 but after that the DEPTH of the conference and with teams ranked Big 10 far out succeeded the Big 12. How many national titles have the Big 12 had in playoff era? How many times have they had a team make it let alone win a game? Funny proof is in the results again thanks for proving my point that Stanley played tougher defenses therefore poking major holes in your lame comparison.
B10 was/is weak. Of all fans, you hawk fans should certainly know this based on the fact your schedule strength is good once in 5 or 6 years. The one year that the hawks had a chance to really take advantage of it, they get beat by a mediocre MSU team in the B10 champ game and both teams got blown out in bowl games.
 
And that playoff team lost to Iowa State at home and wouldn't have made it if they played the schedule of a real conference.....you know, one that plays defense. The big12 is a joke, enjoy your reality.
Good call but misguided again as OU lost the playoff in OT to GA who lost the National Title in same fashion to Bama.
 
ISU will have a very good team. Montgomery alone will be the best player on the field. I say this over and over and no Hawk fans seem to care or even acknowledge it, but we've got a fight on our hands in week 2.
No real Hawk fan takes the ISU game lightly. Kirk’s history against this inferior program is always cause for concern. What we do take lightly is the remainder of ISU’s schedule.
 
B10 was/is weak. Of all fans, you hawk fans should certainly know this based on the fact your schedule strength is good once in 5 or 6 years. The one year that the hawks had a chance to really take advantage of it, they get beat by a mediocre MSU team in the B10 champ game and both teams got blown out in bowl games.

May want to check your facts again. 3 out of last 5 years Iowa had stronger schedule strength including last 2. But again don't let facts get in the way....But I always love the clone SOS card. ISU who played in the pillow fight of the Big 12 north for years and never went to the Big 12 title game now that's hilarious.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other

As for Big 10 funny 5 teams in top 17, 3 in top 8 all of whom Iowa played.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings
 
May want to check your facts again. 3 out of last 5 years Iowa had stronger schedule strength including last 2. But again don't let facts get in the way....But I always love the clone SOS card. ISU who played in the pillow fight of the Big 12 north for years and never went to the Big 12 title game now that's hilarious.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other

As for Big 10 funny 5 teams in top 17, 3 in top 8 all of whom Iowa played.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings
Use a real rating system with credibility. Even the playoff selection committee wouldn't use these. ESPN has a big time vested interest in the B10 & SEC perception. It is funny you would present this.
 
Use a real rating system with credibility. Even the playoff selection committee wouldn't use these. ESPN has a big time vested interest in the B10 & SEC perception. It is funny you would present this.

I used the standardized SOS model. Can you please show me something better since you made that claim ISU has better SOS every 5-6 years to Iowa's 1. Showed where you wrong and Iowa by far had a tougher one last season. Would love to see any other SOS metric over last 5 years with "credibility" that shows ISU had tougher every single year. Please enlighten us with some facts.

As for ESPN you do realize that I showed that link cause it shows both the official AP and Coaches polls side by side it has nothing to do with ESPN. Haha you are so dense you can't even realize that and lay blame on ESPN bias.
 
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Judas priest this stupid argument again. ISU played 3 defenses in the top 50 last year and 2 of them were Iowa and Texas when Park started and TCU was only one Kempt faced when they won 14-7. Iowa faced 4 in the top 20 alone and 8 in the top 50. Meanwhile Kempt faced teams such as Kansas, Texas Tech, WVU in the bottom quarter and in the bowl Memphis who was ranked around 120th in the nation good for the bottom 10. Do I need to link the stats again for national team defense after last time you made this idiotic argument? You want to talk about slow on comprehension it doesn't take a genius to figure this out and i'm not joking at all either.

What's next you'll say some QB in the MAC who put up better #s than the Georgia or Auburn QBs is better too?

ISU was totally shut down by the one amazing B1G defense that they played last year. 467 yards of offense and 41 points; complete domination.
 
ISU was totally shut down by the one amazing B1G defense that they played last year. 467 yards of offense and 41 points; complete domination.

Did I say ISU was shut down by Iowa's defense? Try re-reading the post I was replying and the context involved before spouting off. It was in response to QB ratings of Stanley & Kempt and I was talking about comparing Big 10 vs Big 12 defenses. I was talking about the defenses Kempt played. I acknowledged that Park played Iowa and Texas 2 of the 3 defenses ISU in the top 50. Park had a great game and I stated in another thread I'd be more worried going against him over Kempt who didn't go against any top 50 defenses minus TCU and many were in the bottom third or quarter in the nation. But nice try in this post...

On the other hand with this post and ISU fans saying how bad Big 10 offenses were and Iowa in particular their D being one of the best in the big 12 conference they didn't fair too well either.
 
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