Usha Vance, under Trumps law wouldn't have been a citizen

[bunsen82]

Usha Vance is a US citizen. Order on birthright citizenship won't change that | Fact check

Trump's executive order is not retroactive and would apply only to those born more than 30 days after it was issued.

www.yahoo.com

Usha Vance was born in the US to undocumented immigrants and was granted birthright citizenship. Under Trumps new executive order had she been born now she would not have birthright citizenship. It is amazing how we can make these big proclamations, but then when you look into how it affects people and its ramifications, it is truely striking. Who knows maybe republicans will say it would have opened up more opportunities to white women to be his wife.

 

[thewop]

Usha Vance is a US citizen. Order on birthright citizenship won't change that | Fact check

Trump's executive order is not retroactive and would apply only to those born more than 30 days after it was issued.

www.yahoo.com

Usha Vance was born in the US to undocumented immigrants and was granted birthright citizenship. Under Trumps new executive order had she been born now she would not have birthright citizenship. It is amazing how we can make these big proclamations, but then when you look into how it affects people and its ramifications, it is truely striking. Who knows maybe republicans will say it would have opened up more opportunities to white women to be his wife.

Back then the birthright citizenship tourism industry hadn't started yet. Times have changed.

Also, since she married JD Vance she'd have an "in" now anyway.

This is all IF what you're saying is even accurate, which I presume it is.

 

[bunsen82]

Under Trumps new executive order had she been born now she would not have birthright citizenship. 2nd sentence WOP.

 

[desihawk]

so both president and vice-president are soon to be eligible bachelors after first and second ladies are deported? jokes aside though i haven't been able to verify that usha vance's parents were undocumented (as in illegals) only that they were not citizens at the time and therefore uv wouldn't have qualified under the new proposal.

 

[bunsen82]

so both president and vice-president are soon to be eligible bachelors after first and second ladies are deported? jokes aside though i haven't been able to verify that usha vance's parents were undocumented (as in illegals) only that they were not citizens at the time and therefore uv wouldn't have qualified under the new proposal.

Ok please educate me, how can you not be a citizen and not be an illegal under the current regime, unless here on asylum (which Trump has just cut off all refugees coming to the US stating due to influx of immigration (it has gone done) they are stopping all refugees entering the US). Or on a work visa.

 

[desihawk]

Ok please educate me, how can you not be a citizen and not be an illegal under the current regime, unless here on asylum (which Trump has just cut off all refugees coming to the US stating due to influx of immigration (it has gone done) they are stopping all refugees entering the US). Or on a work visa.

i'm not an immigration expert but i would think workers or students or asylees given permission by the state to work or study or asylum were not and will not be considered illegals

 

[TC Nole OX]

 

[MitchLL]

Put Usha and Melanie on the same plane out of the country.

 

[lucas80]

Put Usha and Melanie on the same plane out of the country.

Neither of them should be citizens. Melanie's parents should have not been allowed to become citizens.
But, it's different somehow.

 

[lucas80]

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J. D. has made it very clear he thinks the place of a woman is walking behind him in a role of subservience.

 

[kzoohawk80]

Keep it up with these narratives guys. You have such a great pulse of the American people. What's the last political prediction you leftists have gotten right on here? You all told us Harris was going to win. Biden was not cognitively declined. I'm not mad at you guys at all. You keep making it easier on conservative politics. But double down because it worked out so well for you last election.

 

[lucas80]

Keep it up with these narratives guys. You have such a great pulse of the American people. What's the last political prediction you leftists have gotten right on here? You all told us Harris was going to win. Biden was not cognitively declined. I'm not mad at you guys at all. You keep making it easier on conservative politics. But double down because it worked out so well for you last election.

You are one to talk. Trump has already misread the mood of the American people. He's squandering his opportunity to lead in order to punish Americans who don't like him, and he's using the time to make money. 2018 will happen again in 2026. The House for sure, and maybe even the Senate.

 

[bunsen82]

Keep it up with these narratives guys. You have such a great pulse of the American people. What's the last political prediction you leftists have gotten right on here? You all told us Harris was going to win. Biden was not cognitively declined. I'm not mad at you guys at all. You keep making it easier on conservative politics. But double down because it worked out so well for you last election.

So you are not saying the very rules they are proposing could have drastically changed who they were married to if the same rules existed 40 to 50 years ago?

 

[Huey Grey]

Vivek found out real quick how much Rs actually wanted him around. JDs side piece, from the couch, had better watch her back.

 

[dekhawk]

I’m still trying to find out what “extraordinary ability”, Melania had to get her Einstein visa.

 

[Pinehawk]

For a President and Vice President who hate immigrants so much, you'd think they both could have found American spouses.

 

[Tiny Hands Trump]

Rules for thee, not for me.

 

[McLovin32]

What's the last political prediction you leftists have gotten right on here?

That Trump wouldn't end the Ukraine war on Day 1 like he said he would.

 

[Gus is dead]

That Trump wouldn't end the Ukraine war on Day 1 like he said he would.

I bet he ends it a lot quicker than 'never' which is what Biden accomplished.

Then there are the hostage and the ceasefire. Which had months to be negotiated yet coincidently it happened within weeks of Trump getting elected and days from his inauguration. Weird.

 

[RonaldMexico]

Back then the birthright citizenship tourism industry hadn't started yet. Times have changed.

Also, since she married JD Vance she'd have an "in" now anyway.

This is all IF what you're saying is even accurate, which I presume it is.

So you support ending birthright citizenship via executive order?

 

[thewop]

So you support ending birthright citizenship via executive order?

I support whatever the courts decide. I would support Congress clarifying that in order to be a citizen, at least one parent needs to be a legal US resident or citizen. That's what the EO aims to do. The EO doesn't change the law, it can't. It does challenge the interpretation of the law, that's allowed.

I'm 100% certain the writers of the Constitution didn't have citizenship tourism in mind when they wrote it, and I'd be willing to bet they made the reasonable assumption that at least one parent is a legal resident of the US.

 

[SA_Hawk]

So you support Russians coming over just to pop out a baby who evidently is now a U.S. citizen before hopping on the plane back to Russia with their new American baby?

 

[joelbc1]

Back then the birthright citizenship tourism industry hadn't started yet. Times have changed.

Also, since she married JD Vance she'd have an "in" now anyway.

This is all IF what you're saying is even accurate, which I presume it is.

Have folks checked her birth certificate? She certainly doesn’t look American. And her name…what kind of name is that? Americans name their kids Mary or Sue or Beth….I think she’s probably a spy.

 

[thewop]

Have folks checked her birth certificate? She certainly doesn’t look American. And her name…what kind of name is that? Americans bane their kids Mary or Sue or Beth….I think she’s probably a spy.

Look at the bright side, there are no concerns about them being brother and sister...

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

Usha Vance is a US citizen. Order on birthright citizenship won't change that | Fact check

Trump's executive order is not retroactive and would apply only to those born more than 30 days after it was issued.

www.yahoo.com

Usha Vance was born in the US to undocumented immigrants and was granted birthright citizenship. Under Trumps new executive order had she been born now she would not have birthright citizenship. It is amazing how we can make these big proclamations, but then when you look into how it affects people and its ramifications, it is truely striking. Who knows maybe republicans will say it would have opened up more opportunities to white women to be his wife.

Can’t say Vance’s wife has any ramifications whatsoever on my life.
In fact I don’t think I know anyone that was born here with illegal parents.

 

[bunsen82]

Can’t say Vance’s wife has any ramifications whatsoever on my life.
In fact I don’t think I know anyone that was born here with illegal parents.

Then why is it such a big issue we needed an EO? I agree with you, birthright citizenship, isn't something we should be worried about.

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

Have folks checked her birth certificate? She certainly doesn’t look American. And her name…what kind of name is that? Americans name their kids Mary or Sue or Beth….I think she’s probably a spy.

Usha tup😉

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

Then why is it such a big issue we needed an EO? I agree with you, birthright citizenship, isn't something we should be worried about.

Who said it wasn’t something to be worried about. All I implied is that I don’t surround myself with people that were only born here so they could have citizenship.
I have never understood how a person can be here illegally, pop out a kid and then that child is a legal citizen. Makes zero sense.
Can a women illegally enter someone’s mansion, pop out a kid and then that kid can stay in that mansion beings it was born there.
I also wonder who is taking care of this baby born a citizen as its mom should be sent back. Is the baby then going to that country that it is not a citizen of?

 

[95Hawk]

I'm 100% certain the writers of the Constitution didn't have citizenship tourism in mind when they wrote it, and I'd be willing to bet they made the reasonable assumption that at least one parent is a legal resident of the US.

I’m 100% sure the drafters of the Constitution didn’t have AR-15s on their mind when they wrote 2A, but we’re only left with their words.

 

[pjhawk]

Back then the birthright citizenship tourism industry hadn't started yet. Times have changed.

Also, since she married JD Vance she'd have an "in" now anyway.

This is all IF what you're saying is even accurate, which I presume it is.

MAGA is scum. They'll make sure this doesn't touch anyone in their club. Always be exceptions to FAFO for these a-holes. And they'll expect it, they're entitled. Different set of rules for MAGA.

Look at the excuses/exceptions flying out of their asses if you're one of the "good ones".

The 14th amendment is unambiguous and you can't amend the constitution by Executive Order. You got damn "originalists".

Will have to start putting quotation marks around that the way I do for "Christian".

 

[bunsen82]

Who said it wasn’t something to be worried about. All I implied is that I don’t surround myself with people that were only born here so they could have citizenship.
I have never understood how a person can be here illegally, pop out a kid and then that child is a legal citizen. Makes zero sense.
Can a women illegally enter someone’s mansion, pop out a kid and then that kid can stay in that mansion beings it was born there.
I also wonder who is taking care of this baby born a citizen as its mom should be sent back. Is the baby then going to that country that it is not a citizen of?

Then Isha by all accounts shouldn't be a citizen in your framework, correct? You can't have it both ways.

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

Then Isha by all accounts shouldn't be a citizen in your framework, correct? You can't have it both ways.

That’s correct? I guess I don’t know where I ever said I wanted her to be a citizen. So I don’t know what I’m having both ways.
Please point out where I ever said that.

 

[bunsen82]

That’s correct? I guess I don’t know where I ever said I wanted her to be a citizen. So I don’t know what I’m having both ways.
Please point out where I ever said that.

Can’t say Vance’s wife has any ramifications whatsoever on my life.
In fact I don’t think I know anyone that was born here with illegal parents.

Sure seemed like you were stating Isha is fine as it has no ramifications on your life and you aren't aware of any individuals who would have been born under this law . . .

 

[Bulldogs1974]

Back then the birthright citizenship tourism industry hadn't started yet. Times have changed.

Also, since she married JD Vance she'd have an "in" now anyway.

This is all IF what you're saying is even accurate, which I presume it is.

can we at least apply this same logic to guns.

 

[Titanhawk2]

Usha Vance is a US citizen. Order on birthright citizenship won't change that | Fact check

Trump's executive order is not retroactive and would apply only to those born more than 30 days after it was issued.

www.yahoo.com

Usha Vance was born in the US to undocumented immigrants and was granted birthright citizenship. Under Trumps new executive order had she been born now she would not have birthright citizenship. It is amazing how we can make these big proclamations, but then when you look into how it affects people and its ramifications, it is truely striking. Who knows maybe republicans will say it would have opened up more opportunities to white women to be his wife.

Well it doesn't affect her, so no ramifications

 

[Rifler]

Is there some reason why we are supposed to be particularly concerned about the citizenship history of Usha Vance?...

 

[bunsen82]

Is there some reason why we are supposed to be particularly concerned about the citizenship history of Usha Vance?...

Just showing the hypocrisy.

 

[lucas80]

Look at the bright side, there are no concerns about them being brother and sister...

Ahhh, the false narrative that has been widely debunked. Kudos for staying in character.

 

[Rifler]

Just showing the hypocrisy.

It's not necessarily hypocrisy,.. Things can change,.. What was, isn't automatically what should always be.

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

Can’t say Vance’s wife has any ramifications whatsoever on my life.
In fact I don’t think I know anyone that was born here with illegal parents.

Sure seemed like you were stating Isha is fine as it has no ramifications on your life and you aren't aware of any individuals who would have been born under this law . . .

It’s more along the lines that it does not affect my life one bit if they take away her citizenship. They could do the same thing will all the others born here to illegal parents