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Vandenberg's TD vs Iowa State

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On Matt's fumble recovery for the TD, was that an illegal touching? Matt ran out of bounds on the play without being forced, and was the first player to touch the ball when it was live.

Any rules experts care to chime in?
 
HKC was the first player to touch the ball. That rule doesn't apply to fumbles to my knowledge.

Also, Tevaun Smith with a huge block on that play. If he dont' make his block, I think ISU recovers that ball. No way to know for sure but it sure looked that way to me. At least thats how I remember it.
 
Really, what difference does it make, game was over nine months ago. Plus the Hawks won practically shutting down Iowa States offense the entire second half.
 
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On Matt's fumble recovery for the TD, was that an illegal touching? Matt ran out of bounds on the play without being forced, and was the first player to touch the ball when it was live.

Any rules experts care to chime in?
Technically he was the 3rd or 4th player to touch it live.
 
I don't believe there is any rule in the book about when a player can touch a live ball that is not a forward pass. The forward pass rule is in place to prohibit a player from gaining an advantage by leaving the field of play and then re-entering to catch a pass. For example, a player isn't allowed to use a person on the sideline as a "blocker" to screen himself from a defender. To put it another way, this makes it so the defender can rely on the sideline as the absolute farthest a receiver can travel when trying to get open.

In the case of a loose ball (fumble), there's no realistic way that a player could expect to gain an advantage by leaving the field of play, so I believe it is highly unlikely that any rule would exist that would prohibit someone (offense or defense) from taking possession immediately after re-entering the field. Of course, the player would have to be completely inbounds, or else his touching of the ball would end the play and possession would revert to the last team who had the ball.

That is my understanding, but if someone wants to actually read the published rules and correct me, or add to my comments, please do so.
 
On Matt's fumble recovery for the TD, was that an illegal touching? Matt ran out of bounds on the play without being forced, and was the first player to touch the ball when it was live.

Any rules experts care to chime in?

not illegal touching
 
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My confusion on that play was that I thought the offense cannot advance a recovered fumble. I'm guessing that's only an NFL rule?

And by the way, it's ridiculous that the rules are different pro vs. college vs. HS. I can see shortening the game for HS, but us the same rules, please.
 
Isn't the NFL rule something weird like you can't advance a fumble if the ball goes forward but if the fumble goes backwards you can advance it?
 
Isn't the NFL rule something weird like you can't advance a fumble if the ball goes forward but if the fumble goes backwards you can advance it?

If any player fumbles after the two-minute warning in a half, only the fumbling player is permitted to recover and/or advance the ball. If recovered by any other offensive player, the ball is dead at the spot of the fumble unless it is recovered behind the spot of the fumble. In that case, the ball is dead at the spot of recovery. Any defensive player may recover and/or advance any fumble at any time.

And, this is the reason for the rule. And listen to the announcer. "It's not real!"

 
Everytime someone mentions 'illegal touching' i think of Chris hansen's To Catch a Predator show on NBC. That term needs to be removed from football.
 
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