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Just to put this into perspective one of these things is true:


A Special forces guy lost his mind, threw his life away, forgot all his training and just so happened to build a middle school level bomb in one of the safest vehicles to contain a blast on the planet, which also happens to be the one vehicle that records the shit out of itself.


Or


He left breadcrumbs from a psy-op.





Place your bets where you may.
False dichotomy is false.
 
'Thank' the guy who made us aware of the abuses, not the asshats committing the abuses.

Pitch perfect, sir. ;)
Say what you will about Mr. Snowden, but his leaks caused some major damage to U.S. intelligence capabilities. When he exposed programs like PRISM and XKeyscore, it forced us to mothball some of our most effective surveillance tools. He killed some of our most effective ways to collect on foreign threats by tipping them off to how we were tracking them, so they started hiding their communications better. The leaks also strained relationships with our allies which made sharing intelligence a real PITA. Not to mention the risk to our HUMINT capes and field operatives.

Yes, I already know you'll take the stance that Snowden’s actions sparked the conversation about privacy and government overreach, which led to legal reforms, like the USA Freedom Act, etc. We'll likely never see eye-to-eye on this.
 
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Kinda like having a mentally unfit POTUS from day 1 of his term and being constantly gaslit by his administration and the media non-stop for 3.5 years until he shits his pants on a nationally televised debate?

Like that post-truth world?

Tell me again which party perpetrated that fraud on American society?
No it really isn’t PF maybe in your dream world of MAGA…. The land of alternative truths.
 
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Alright, what are the options we could be missing?


It's still going to end in, guy who knew how to build bomb, made shitty bomb, in safest way possible or he left bread crumbs however accurate they may be.
Could just be he was f$cked in the head for a host reasons. Maybe he was just paranoid/delusional/schizophrenic
/bipolar and wanted to drive a cyber truck before he died. Just because you are in the green berets doesn’t mean you are macgyver or understand how all tech/tesla works.
 
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Say what you will about Mr. Snowden, but his leaks caused some major damage to U.S. intelligence capabilities. When he exposed programs like PRISM and XKeyscore, it forced us to mothball some of our most effective surveillance tools. He killed some of our most effective ways to collect on foreign threats by tipping them off to how we were tracking them, so they started hiding their communications better. The leaks also strained relationships with our allies which made sharing intelligence a real PITA. Not to mention the risk to our HUMINT capes and field operatives.

Yes, I already know you'll take the stance that Snowden’s actions sparked the conversation about privacy and government overreach, which led to legal reforms, like the USA Freedom Act, etc. We'll likely never see eye-to-eye on this.
If Snowden had just leaked information on the domestic surveillance programs, it’d be one thing.

He purposely chose to go further and hurt American intelligence efforts abroad, then he teamed with a Russian asset to distribute them and fled to Russia.
 
How do you know he knows how to build a bomb?
How do you know his intent?
Livelsberger enlisted in the Army as a Special Forces candidate and served on active duty from January 2006 to March 2011, then joined the National Guard and served until July 2012, followed by a stint in the Army Reserve from July to December 2012, according to the spokesperson. He went back on active duty in December 2012 as a Special Operations soldier, the spokesperson said.




I'm not saying he was some demo expert but the guy knew how energy in an explosion worked, and knew there are a hell of alot better propellants than fireworks.


Also, if you read the article, he bought firearms the day before. They sell real gunpowder in big ass 5 pound containers of it at a gun store, why pay the retail of a ****ing firework when you can 10x that with real gunpowder? ( per dollar)



Maybe in his brain he wanted to blow up the battery of the tesla, which would explain the vehicle.

 
Livelsberger enlisted in the Army as a Special Forces candidate and served on active duty from January 2006 to March 2011, then joined the National Guard and served until July 2012, followed by a stint in the Army Reserve from July to December 2012, according to the spokesperson. He went back on active duty in December 2012 as a Special Operations soldier, the spokesperson said.




I'm not saying he was some demo expert but the guy knew how energy in an explosion worked, and knew there are a hell of alot better propellants than fireworks.


Also, if you read the article, he bought firearms the day before. They sell real gunpowder in big ass 5 pound containers of it at a gun store, why pay the retail of a ****ing firework when you can 10x that with real gunpowder? ( per dollar)



Maybe in his brain he wanted to blow up the battery of the tesla, which would explain the vehicle.

As a son of a bipolar and schizophrenic father (who's very intelligent with a mechanical/engineering mind), let me just say when he's manic he does some dumba$$ stuff that really makes no sense--it's always one of the clues to him becoming manic.
 
As a son of a bipolar and schizophrenic father (who's very intelligent with a mechanical/engineering mind), let me just say when he's manic he does some dumba$$ stuff that really makes no sense--it's always one of the clues to him becoming manic.
Option A, guy lost his mind, and the world lucked out with the safest possible option playing out is on the table.
 
Option A, guy lost his mind, and the world lucked out with the safest possible option playing out is on the table.
Quite possibly the rational reality. Seriously, I've watched my dad through the window going, "what the hell is he doing...he knows how to do that." After the accident that resulted in two people dying in 1993, I asked him what it was like being manic. He said it's like living in a fantasy world, not knowing what is reality and what is fiction. He can't find his way back. The problem is, once he's stable/normal, he remembers EVERYTHING that he did when he was manic, thus the shame and depression kicks in.
 
Livelsberger enlisted in the Army as a Special Forces candidate and served on active duty from January 2006 to March 2011, then joined the National Guard and served until July 2012, followed by a stint in the Army Reserve from July to December 2012, according to the spokesperson. He went back on active duty in December 2012 as a Special Operations soldier, the spokesperson said.




I'm not saying he was some demo expert but the guy knew how energy in an explosion worked, and knew there are a hell of alot better propellants than fireworks.


Also, if you read the article, he bought firearms the day before. They sell real gunpowder in big ass 5 pound containers of it at a gun store, why pay the retail of a ****ing firework when you can 10x that with real gunpowder? ( per dollar)



Maybe in his brain he wanted to blow up the battery of the tesla, which would explain the vehicle.

Ok. So maybe we shouldn’t assume he knew how to build bombs and built a crappy one on purpose to leave breadcrumbs about a psy op.

I’d be looking deep into his mental health history, actions over the past year, and am curious why he was home on leave from Germany. I suppose could be routine for the holidays or maybe it was something else. He may have had a lot of bad thoughts but didn’t really want to hurt anyone.
 
Quite possibly the rational reality. Seriously, I've watched my dad through the window going, "what the hell is he doing...he knows how to do that." After the accident that resulted in two people dying in 1993, I asked him what it was like being manic. He said it's like living in a fantasy world, not knowing what is reality and what is fiction. He can't find his way back. The problem is, once he's stable/normal, he remembers EVERYTHING that he did when he was manic, thus the shame and depression kicks in.
Thanks for sharing man. That is about the heaviest stuff you could have experienced as his child. Not to trivialize it but reminds me of the line in this is us where after one of the triplets dies during delivery, the doctor tells Jack: “I'd like to think, maybe one day you'll be an old man like me, talking a younger man's ear off, explaining to him how you took the sourest lemon that life has to offer, and turned it into something resembling lemonade.”
 
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Thanks for sharing man. That is about the heaviest stuff you could have experienced as his child. Not to trivialize it but reminds me of the line in this is us where after one of the triplets dies during delivery, the doctor tells Jack: “I'd like to think, maybe one day you'll be an old man like me, talking a younger man's ear off, explaining to him how you took the sourest lemon that life has to offer, and turned it into something resembling lemonade.”
Ya, it wasn't easy...I was fortunate enough to have experienced long stretches of stability, but my mom really had to pay the price during different periods of his hospitalization--busting her ass to keep us from being on the streets. For 36 years she endured that mess. I'm glad she finally broke free, but now I (as an only child) have to deal with it when it rears its ugly head.
 
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Ok. So maybe we shouldn’t assume he knew how to build bombs and built a crappy one on purpose to leave breadcrumbs about a psy op.

I’d be looking deep into his mental health history, actions over the past year, and am curious why he was home on leave from Germany. I suppose could be routine for the holidays or maybe it was something else. He may have had a lot of bad thoughts but didn’t really want to hurt anyone.
Knowing the note is real, however true or not, what are you using to eliminate option B? Simply "i don't believe it"?
 
The leaks also strained relationships with our allies which made sharing intelligence a real PITA.

The leaks strained the relationship, not the spying?

I’m guessing your wife finding out you’ve been cheating on her would strain the relationship.

Not the cheating itself, but her finding out about it.

;)
 
You’ve read some of the nonsense people post and link on here?
Specific to this, no, I've read that the email read on that Ryan's guy show has been confirmed to have been sent by the bomber. As part of that interview they are verified his credibility.




We may have gotten lucky here, no doubt, I just think it's odd to immediatly discard something the FBI acknowledged as a real thing.
 
You might want to research Swyer syndrome pregnancies before you make yourself look even dumber.

Avoid the sciences. Stick to your meats - it's your niche.
And just how common is Swyer syndrome??..have you ever seen the movie "Freaks"..??.... I don't mean that to be meanspirited...no one would argue that there are genetic abnormalities that lead to highly unusual cases in a VERY small percentage of the population...yes, there are cases of two headed humans, but no one would make the claim that human beings as a species have two heads....and I would say that 1 in 80,000 is pretty rare by any standards...
 
Specific to this, no, I've read that the email read on that Ryan's guy show has been confirmed to have been sent by the bomber. As part of that interview they are verified his credibility.




We may have gotten lucky here, no doubt, I just think it's odd to immediatly discard something the FBI acknowledged as a real thing.
I'm certainly not discarding anything...I'm also not blind to the fact the average citizen is only privy to what the government wants them to be privy to.
 
You might want to research Swyer syndrome pregnancies before you make yourself look even dumber.

Avoid the sciences. Stick to your meats - it's your niche.
Can people with Sawyers syndrome naturally reproduce?


Science is amazing, theoretically we could put a uterus in a man and then put a fertilized egg in him but at some point you have to draw a line on stupidity.
 
I listened to half a pod cast from that Shawn Ryan guy and they were talking about it. They were able to corroborate at least one of those US cover ups of slaughtering citizens in Afghanistan. In terms of everything they have received they turned it over to the FBI and talked candidly about there experiences and what this guy sent them.

I’m still in the thought process of some of what is laid out has some truth to it. The gravitational propulsion tech seems sci fi but there is a lot of sci fi shit going on in the sky.

Also got to thinking while I was listening, what if this is one big psy-op and these guys are in on it? Lol. You can just never know with these dudes and the spooks haha.

The gravitational propulsion breaks laws of physics. Either its ravings of a broken mind or our current understanding of physics is wrong.
 
The gravitational propulsion breaks laws of physics. Either its ravings of a broken mind or our current understanding of physics is wrong.
That's just what they want you think, man...

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Gravitic propulsion, eh?
And just how common is Swyer syndrome??..have you ever seen the movie "Freaks"..??.... I don't mean that to be meanspirited...no one would argue that there are genetic abnormalities that lead to highly unusual cases in a VERY small percentage of the population...yes, there are cases of two headed humans, but no one would make the claim that human beings as a species have two heads....and I would say that 1 in 80,000 is pretty rare by any standards...
Why does that matter? The claim was that men can't have babies.

You mean like how people actually believe that men can have babies?

If - as is common on HOBT - you define that as XY chromosomes, then the claim is false. Categorically. So where do you draw the line percentage-wise and simply dismiss reality?
 
Gravitic propulsion, eh?

Why does that matter? The claim was that men can't have babies.



If - as is common on HOBT - you define that as XY chromosomes, then the claim is false. Categorically. So where do you draw the line percentage-wise and simply dismiss reality?

You're talking about people with birth defects. And I would draw the line at having a uterus.
 
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Congrats, Adrian.

Certainly helps when you’re the owner of Tesla and X and can get info on the vehicle itself and then put out your message.
 
Gravitic propulsion, eh?

Why does that matter? The claim was that men can't have babies.



If - as is common on HOBT - you define that as XY chromosomes, then the claim is false. Categorically. So where do you draw the line percentage-wise and simply dismiss reality?
Can people with Sawyers reproduce naturally?
 
You're talking about people with birth defects. And I would draw the line at having a uterus.
You can call it whatever you like and you can move the goalposts as many times as you want, but you were wrong. XY individuals can have babies. And what happens to your new "defining characteristic" when a trans female gets a uterus transplant? Yes, they are working on that as we speak.

Go smoke something.
 
You can call it whatever you like and you can move the goalposts as many times as you want, but you were wrong. XY individuals can have babies. And what happens to your new "defining characteristic" when a trans female gets a uterus transplant? Yes, they are working on that as we speak.

Go smoke something.

From Wiki:

Those with Swyer syndrome develop phenotypes typical of females and in most cases, non-reproductive gonads. Individuals are most commonly diagnosed during adolescence after puberty fails to occur.[6]

The consequences of Swyer syndrome without treatment:

  • The individual's gonads do not have two X chromosomes, so the breasts will not develop and the uterus will not grow and menstruate until estrogen is administered. This is often given transdermally.
  • Their gonads cannot make progesterone, so menstrual periods will not be predictable until progestin is administered, usually as a pill.
  • Their gonads cannot produce eggs, so conceiving children is not possible.
 
From Wiki: Their gonads cannot produce eggs, so conceiving children is not possible.
From, you know, YOU:

You mean like how people actually believe that men can have babies?
As clearly demonstrated, that was false if you define men as XY individuals. If the ability to conceive is your newest benchmark, what do you call XX individuals who can't conceive?
 
From, you know, YOU:


As clearly demonstrated, that was false if you define men as XY individuals. If the ability to conceive is your newest benchmark, what do you call XX individuals who can't conceive?

The XY construct is your invention, not mine.

And the Wiki link says people with this condition are females, not men.
 
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The XY construct is your invention, not mine.

And the Wiki link says people with this condition are females, not men.
So what makes a man a man? If it's not XY chromosomes, you have absolutely no argument against trans women playing women's sports. And you failed to address the question...what do you call XX individuals who can't conceive?

I'll advise you once again to stick to your meats and avoid science...you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
 
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So what makes a man a man? If it's not XY chromosomes, you have absolutely no argument against trans women playing women's sports. I'll advise you once again to stick to your meats and avoid science...you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Remember that time you tried saying people that have a baby surgically implanted in them could have babies....

I lol'd.

Won't be long and a robot will be able to do that.
 
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