I thought it was. Devastated by the outcome. Had chances either way. Go Hawks and Go Devs!
Was that targeting by the TX DBack?
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Many questionable calls. Bad PI call on Texas when it was an obvious offensive PI. Huge play. Went both ways. ASU is not good and Texas is suspect. tOSU will be in the title game
I was there. Never even a thought of it being intentional in the stadium. After seeing the replay I was shocked, absolutely floored, it wasn’t called targeting. College football is corrupt.
Texas mafia refs were renowned for benefiting the Longwhorens over the years. As a Cyclone fan, I surprised to find this was a Big 10 crew.
Texas had 4 more penalties than ASU. **** off with this bs narrative. I don’t like Texas either but the refs didn’t decide it. Side note. Big 12 is a joke and the SEC was highly overrated this year.
To those who think that targeting shouldn’t be called because you don’t want it to determine the outcome of the game, ASU loses one of their top receivers for the rest of the game out of the deal.
We can recreate the entire thing with you playing the part of receiver. You won't need to worry about cte like the asu receiver though.
What's amazing is the refs did decide the outcome of the game by not calling it. They changed the entire end of the game
agreed. If you were doing a training session for officials on what to look for in targeting, you would use video of that play to show them what a textbook targeting call would look like.
Total joke it was not called targeting. Textbook targeting, 100%.
I would respect the integrity of the game more if the refs would have just announced after the review:
“we will not be calling targeting on this play because we - the powers that be - really don’t want Texas to lose, and especially not like this. 4th down ASU.”
I would respect the integrity of the game more if the refs would have just announced after the review:
“we will not be calling targeting on this play because we - the powers that be - really don’t want Texas to lose, and especially not like this. 4th down ASU.”
And to compound the travesty of targeting not being called, it’s stopped the clock because the WR was hurt and they started it on the snap which essentially gave Texas another timeout and more time to try to win in regulation. Doesn’t matter that the kicker missed the winning FG in regulation. Total screw job.
Maybe before you call everyone snowflakes you should go and read the rules on targeting and on hitting a defenseless receiver, there is a bit of a difference in the two. This was definitely the definition of a defenseless receiver. In the case of a defenseless receiver, you can not hit them in the head or neck area with an arm, shoulder or your head, it is supposed to be an automatic targeting call, which should have been called on that play. Very, very poor job by the booth and the person in the booth should not be allowed to ever be in the booth again, because obviously player safety guidelines set by the NCAA do not matter to him.
To be considered a defenseless player the player would not have been able to make a football move after catching the ball, which he did not have time to do. He caught it and just started to turn when he was hit in the head in this case. The intent of the rule is to allow the receiver in this instance a chance to brace or protect themself from a blind hit, which in this case was what it was. Even though he was starting to turn he had no chance to protect himself from this type of hit. Also, just starting to turn your head around is not a football move. Absolutely, a horrible, missed call and probably effected the outcome of the game.
Can I possible like this thread more than once. Maybe 1,000 likes.
Like many others have stated, the call felt rigged. I don’t care about any of the teams left so I have no problem not watching the rest of the playoffs. Not gonna reward these networks for continuing to ruin this sport. Hope there are others like me.
I have said to others that one rule I wish all levels of football would put in, is when a player makes a dirty illegal tackle that results in the other player being seriously injured and missing multiple games the offending player should have to sit out until the injured player can come back. I do realize this is ridiculous, and that it will never happen, but I think it would make players think a little bit when it could affect them as well. Just me spit balling, as it really is disappointing to see players that cheap hits and miss multiple weeks or even the rest of the year when the offender just gets to keep on playing like nothing ever happened. it can also drastically affect the team that loses the said player for whatever length of time it is. Ok I said my piece, I'm done. 
First year of the Big 2 cash grabbing greedy conferences. SEC and Big Ten will dominate the playoff. They made it look good, but ASU was not walking off that field a winner unless they were 28 points better.
The one I hate the most, that there is no rules for, are defensive players piling on / falling on a guy after one of their teammates already tackled them. That happened several times w Texas and it happens throughout the year.
The ran into each other. 2 guys moving towards the ball. What is the defender supposed to do? He didn’t lower his head or launch or anything. He ran towards the ball. I just have a hard time calling targeting when the only way to avoid contact is to run away from the ball. He didn’t do anything wrong.
He needed to hit him lower in the body.
People can argue about the "rule" itself all day. That's for another thread.
If you look at the factors to determine targeting, all were met on that hit. I'm anxious to hear an explanation from someone why it wasn't.
Ran into each other?
The WR has just caught a pass and was turning his body/head to go up field for more yards. The other guy, the DB, is in the process of running “towards” the receiver. The DB has all of the momentum and has an entire torso to target for his hit. The DB “CHOOSES” not to take the torso shot but aims high and drives his helmet into the receivers helmet just as the receiver had turned his head/body upfield to gain more yds.
Ridiculously bad no call, even by BIG Stripes standards. You must be one of the inept BIG Stripes with the day off watching your boys swing and miss, as they do every weekend during the fall.
It wasn't. Didn't lead with the crown of his helmet. It was facemask to facemask.
It is.
Let’s toss the rules the last minute of each game and make it a free for all. All is fair because there shouldn’t be any calls that might alter the outcome of the games.
The rule specifically states the lowering the crown of the helmet. He did not. It was more of a facemask to facemask hit like running into each other.
Side note- I’m constantly frustrated by the number of players who don’t attempt to wrap up and instead throw shoulders trying to deliver a big hit. Seems like half the time the offensive player just bounces off and goes for additional yardage
There are two types of targeting. The traditional leading with the helmet, or spearing or something of the sort. That was probably questionable with the hit. Could have gone either way.
The other targeting with a defenseless receiver, which the ASU receiver absolutely was, can’t even be debated. He got hit squarely in the helmet by a defenders helmet. All this face mask to face mask talk is irrelevant. It doesn’t matter with a defenseless receiver. Absolutely 100% targeting.
The other targeting with a defenseless receiver, which the ASU receiver absolutely was, can’t even be debated. He got hit squarely in the helmet by a defenders helmet. All this face mask to face mask talk is irrelevant. It doesn’t matter with a defenseless receiver. Absolutely 100% targeting.
Wrong. Look up a defenseless receiver and stop spreading misinformation.
Stop with the misinformation. You don’t know the rules. If you don’t like it, cry, but stop spreading mistruths.
They do that at the end of basketball games when the last play decides the game
Don't think he was defenseless either. He made the catch and turned to make a football play. Like I said earlier it's football it's a contact sport.
Defenseless receiver. Hit in the helmet/face mask, which happens to be “above” the shoulders, forcibly by the DB, which had taken as many as 4 or 5 strides towards the receiver and “had plenty of time to lower his target area to the torso” but chose to use his helmet in the tackling process.
Watch the replay a few times. DB’s head lowers a little just before contact so it’s more of his forehead ramming into the side of the face mask.
Haha. If he wasn’t defenseless, then a defenseless player has never existed in the history of college football.
No. Every helmet contact is not targeting.
This is what I thought. The defender didn't lower and lead with the crown of his helmet. Targeting has become anytime helmets collide. Sometimes that happens in the course of a play. I know I'm in the minority on this one but I can see them letting it go.
It wasn't targeting, nor was it anywhere close to text book. It was a tipped ball that the defender was making a play on. He didn't lower his head, lead with the crown of the helmet, or launch at the reciever, he jumped to make a play at a tipped ball. No flags were thrown on the play. They reviewed it, as they should have.
Why do snowflakes always think it's a conspiracy when things don't go their way?
Why do snowflakes always think it's a conspiracy when things don't go their way?
Are you dense? A tipped pass doesn’t matter for targeting, only pass interference. None of that matters with a defenseless receiver. It’s not that difficult. Again if you want to change the rules, fine. But we all know this was just Texas playing against a non blue blood program. It was an absolute without question textbook example of targeting of a defenseless receiver.
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College football is corrupt. If there ever was a doubt, this non-targeting call confirmed it.
ESPN got what they wanted, a SEC/Big Ten semifinal.
The replay official needs to be fired.
I'm done watching. I hope a lot of people do the same.
ESPN got what they wanted, a SEC/Big Ten semifinal.
The replay official needs to be fired.
I'm done watching. I hope a lot of people do the same.
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