The commentators mentioned that Fans were throwing "bottles" Out on the field after the facemask call against Iowa, but they didn't show it on tv. What was happening?
What exactly were Fans throwing on the field?
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Yes Barta's marketing team was passing out commemorative Hawk glass bottles that were colored in purple not realizing that was a NW color. Those were being chucked from all directions.
A lot of water bottles. Probably Dasani since that is a coke brand. A camera man standing in front of me did pick up a flask thrown out of the student section that luckily didn't hit anyone. He didn't sample the contents though. Looked like a decent one as it was partially wrapped in leather.
Water bottles.
The place was about to turn into Charlotte, with the difference that the fans actually had a legitimate reason to riot.
The place was about to turn into Charlotte, with the difference that the fans actually had a legitimate reason to riot.
I was at the game and was wondering about everybody's opinions that watched the game on TV. A few plays come to mind: Pass interference on the sideline (I think it was against Scheel), Out of bounds touchdown pass on 3rd and 10, facemask on CJ (I believe this was third down as well).
There were plenty of others but I think the overall disproval from the crowd was, after missing these calls for Iowa, they were credited to Northwestern as the game went on. This was the absolute worst game I have ever watched being officiated.
There were plenty of others but I think the overall disproval from the crowd was, after missing these calls for Iowa, they were credited to Northwestern as the game went on. This was the absolute worst game I have ever watched being officiated.
It wasn't as bad as you think. Only really blatant miss was the CJ face mask. Scheel's PI non-call could've been called, but it wasn't aggregious. All other big calls were correct in my eyes.
You have it nailed. The refs didn't cause Iowa to lose, however, the officiating really appeared uni-directional. The announcers even mentioned it in response to the fans throwing things on the field. They said something to the effect (I'm paraphrasing ):
"yes, some calls have gone against your team but it's just a game. Remember what happened just a few minutes ago."
That last comment was in response to the NW player being carted off the field.
That was an obvious PI. Especially when the officials gave their definition later in the game by calling us on a less obvious PI(it was PI also)
I realize I'm in the minority on this one. But if you're referring to our PI on their deep ball later, the two aren't comparable. Maybe you're referring to something else I'm not remembering though - I was only half paying attention once they went up 14.
The non-call against Scheel in the first half was incorrect by definition of pass interference.
The call against Snyder in the second half was correctly called.
What I don't understand is why refs are so thin-skinned that they can't tolerate some complaints, especially when they have to realize their calls were inconsistent. Giving a 15 yarder for Johnson's complaints yet allowed Fitzgerald to run all over the field shows how mentally weak the refs really are.
I don't know who these refs are, but they were less than impressive in my opinion.
The call against Snyder in the second half was correctly called.
What I don't understand is why refs are so thin-skinned that they can't tolerate some complaints, especially when they have to realize their calls were inconsistent. Giving a 15 yarder for Johnson's complaints yet allowed Fitzgerald to run all over the field shows how mentally weak the refs really are.
I don't know who these refs are, but they were less than impressive in my opinion.
I think what pissed fans off the most is that the two missed calls for Iowa were called in favor of NW at crucial times.. I think the Iowa penalty for face mask was only 1 or 2 plays after they missed the one on CJ.. which would have given Iowa 1 and 10 at the 20.. instead Iowa punts and gives them 30 yards in pentalty right after! It mattered
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Of course, by rule, you're supposed to be in bounds in order to catch a touchdown pass. It was somewhat disconcerting to see that the NW lad failed to meet that criterion, what with his left foot clearly beyond the end zone boundary when he actually caught the football. The announcers, and the man behind the curtain in the review booth, seemed mesmerized by the fact that the lad dragged his right foot across the end zone. Indeed, he did. Unfortunately, that occurred BEFORE he caught the football with his left foot out of bounds. Sorry to bring it up, the whole thing being only a game and all.
The way it sounds the refs blew a touchdown call that went NUs way. They stalled 2 Iowa drives that could've ended in points. With all the pathetic calls they crushed the momentum on the defense which lead to 3 straight touchdowns late in the 3rd and the beginning of the 4th. I'm not sure you can say they didn't cost Iowa the game. Remember, after all this it was still a one possession game.
Smith makes the catch on the last drive we probably go into OT. That's how close we were on such a poorly 1 sided officiated game. It's always easy to say we didn't lose because of the officials. But yesterday that's just untrue. We are not good enough to over come at best poor officiating at worse down right biased officials. I guess Ferentz shouldn't have call out officials last week.
Maybe its just me, but this is far from the only poorly officiated game I have seen this season. The fumble by MaCarron against Miami of Ohio that should've led to a touchback but was ruled in favor of Iowa as an incomplete pass comes to mind. What is going on with the refs this year. It seems like fan bases have always complained about some of the calls, but this year just seems awful.
That TD catch that was called in bounds may have had his left foot come down before he controlled the ball but it was to close to overturn the original call. Bad break but not bad call. The non call on the pass interference and face mask were bad but these kind of things happen.
There were so many holding calls missed it was incredible. I watched several other games yesterday and every similar hold in those games were properly called. I dont understand but this year it seems that teams are allowed to hold our dline with no call, more so than other years that is
Jewell and Johnson were being held and tackled all day. It is unbelievable that not a single one was called. That is a big reason why Johnson lost it. It was all a combination of the fans disgust with officiating and frustration with how the season is going.
Looking at the stats, it's interesting to note that even with ISU racking up penalties like crazy (they had ten in that game) we have averaged 4.8 penalties for an average of 43 yards while our opponents have averaged 4.2 for 33 yards.
Throw out ISU and the opponent averages become 2.75 for 23 yards.
That doesn't even take into account the yards lost on two 70 yard TD runs.
Also worth noting that in both losses, our opponents have only been flagged once in those games. It's pretty amazing that they were able to play nearly flawlessly w/respect to rules infractions. In both games there were some pretty flagrant fouls that were missed...obvious, even flagrant holding, an obvious block in the back, facemasks, pass interference...all ignored.
I can see why the players might be getting frustrated. I told my friend early in yesterday's game that it feels like there's a plan to prevent Iowa from having success this year. I was sort of kidding, but I'm starting to wonder now. When you see really obvious infractions being ignored over and over, it's pretty hard not to...
Throw out ISU and the opponent averages become 2.75 for 23 yards.
That doesn't even take into account the yards lost on two 70 yard TD runs.
Also worth noting that in both losses, our opponents have only been flagged once in those games. It's pretty amazing that they were able to play nearly flawlessly w/respect to rules infractions. In both games there were some pretty flagrant fouls that were missed...obvious, even flagrant holding, an obvious block in the back, facemasks, pass interference...all ignored.
I can see why the players might be getting frustrated. I told my friend early in yesterday's game that it feels like there's a plan to prevent Iowa from having success this year. I was sort of kidding, but I'm starting to wonder now. When you see really obvious infractions being ignored over and over, it's pretty hard not to...
They were all thrown from the north east mid section of the stadium. The first one was chucked from about the 50th row...and then the rest from the 30 or so. There were only around 8 total. The calls were the worst i've ever seen. I could see the facemask from the 50th row in north east endzone
Someone please inform this ignoramus what mechanism for "poor performance" or in cases like Saturday's game horribly biased officiating do officials have? They are policed by their own as faar as I understand. Good old boys club.
What exactly stands in their way from having friends and relatives put money on the game and then influence the outcome to make money?
Currently I see Nothing. No reprecussions. Zero accountability for officiating. None.
That is a recipe for disaster and we all saw it yesterday.
I hope those guys made some good cheese ripping off 70,000 fans of their hard earned money.
What exactly stands in their way from having friends and relatives put money on the game and then influence the outcome to make money?
Currently I see Nothing. No reprecussions. Zero accountability for officiating. None.
That is a recipe for disaster and we all saw it yesterday.
I hope those guys made some good cheese ripping off 70,000 fans of their hard earned money.
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