ADVERTISEMENT

What's up with MLB and the lack of offense?

lucas80

HR King
Gold Member
Jan 30, 2008
116,983
171,648
113
Scoring is down. Batting average is down. Homers are down. OBP and OPS are both down.
Discuss.
 
One trick ponies. No importance placed on being a true professional hitter. Pitchers have adjusted and are throwing unbelievable stuff that is harder to hit but also making them injury prone.

Analytics ruined baseball.
As an ex player this is 100% correct. What's best % wise to win isn't what is best for the entertainment of the game.

Homeruns and walks being more important and striking out being ok has changed the way the game is played. Plus even though you can't go back to the way it was the focus on safety hurt as well. Home plate collisions and double play break ups gave baseball at least a little toughness. There isn't any now.
 
One trick ponies. No importance placed on being a true professional hitter. Pitchers have adjusted and are throwing unbelievable stuff that is harder to hit but also making them injury prone.

Analytics ruined baseball.
Yeah, there seems to be too many pitchers in the system these days, with pitchers being on a rotational basis between MLB and the high majors. 13 can be on the roster at one time and they have about half a dozen a phone call away from AAA. Maybe they need to limit the number of pitchers on the team at one time to about 10-11 and go back to the way they used to figure call-up options to limit the number of arms that are available. Guys aren't throwing the number of innings they used to.
 
Pitching is totally different from 68. Gibson had like 25 complete games. Now 5 - 6 innings and the slider/98 mph specialists take over. Defense is way better than ever too….
Yeah, Gibson pitched 13 Shutouts that year but still lost 9 games (won 22 I think). He and Fergie had some great duels in that era.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kinnick.At.Night
Home run or strikeout.

Batting averages are also awful in the minor leagues the last few years.

My favorite play was watching Kirby Puckett hit one in the gap and watching him run the bases. That’s gone now from the game.
 
I hate the ideal we need video game offense to entertain people.
Winding the balls a bit different (looser?) would counter the freakish pitch velocity and spin, and keep batted balls in the park more often. More balls in play=more entertainment?
 
  • Like
Reactions: ClarindaA's
I hate the ideal we need video game offense to entertain people.
Winding the balls a bit different (looser?) would counter the freakish pitch velocity and spin, and keep batted balls in the park more often. More balls in play=more entertainment?
Yes, when things happen, it’s usually more entertaining than when things don’t happen. It’s science.
 
Another thing to consider here is velocity training and how it has transformed pitching. Just a few decades ago, such training was virtually non-existent. Today, you’ve got scores of pitchers reaching the upper limits of throwing velocity….guys who never would have thrown that hard had they played just a few years earlier. And I think that factors heavily into how many guys are suffering from arm injures these days and how nobody complete games anymore. Or pitches 300+ innings-per-season. Years ago, the guys that threw the hardest were the guys that were “supposed” to throw that hard, so to speak.
 
I want to say it was Bob Nightingale, but on the Score today they were talking about the crackdown on sticky stuff, and perhaps pitchers are being checked before the inning starts, and a defensive players is transferring a substance to the pitcher once the inning starts.
 
I want to say it was Bob Nightingale, but on the Score today they were talking about the crackdown on sticky stuff, and perhaps pitchers are being checked before the inning starts, and a defensive players is transferring a substance to the pitcher once the inning starts.

I see them being checked after innings all the time too
 
Starting pitching is strong…and starters only go about 6 innings nowadays….or 100 pitches. As good as starting pitching has become, relief pitching has really become a science…and an art. Lots of good strong arms that throw high 90’s with little effort. A couple of relievers and a “closer”…..
 
I see them being checked after innings all the time too
A little dab will do you. This was discussed, they check the hands, not the pants, or jersey. It wears off. And, there could be newer substances that have been utilized instead of the old sticky stuff from 2 years ago. Spin rates still seem radically high.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT