In the past decade:
OSU 123-16 .885
BAMA 124-16 .886
Iowa 89-39 .695
One of these is not the same as the others.
Which is worse?
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OSU 123-16 .885
BAMA 124-16 .886
Iowa 89-39 .695
One of these is not the same as the others.
I'm not the one that said "Iowa's win % is among the OSUs and Bamas in win pct over the last decade."
Yeah, but Iowa is one of 5 teams with 8+ wins in 10 straight seasons.
So Billikens point that Iowa is outperforming most of the country remains.
He's also correct that winning is never easy and should never be devalued.
Iowa was winning long before the Big Ten West.
Anyone who is constantly taking about a "weak schedule in the West" might as well raise his hand say that he never played sports past middle school. At the very least, he never did much winning
Is Iowa with OSU and Bama for winning pct over the last decade? Because those were his exact words.
11/16/19. Last time Iowa beat a team that finished the year ranked in the Top 25.
Run the ball.
Well aren't you salty. Is that hemorrhoid acting up again?
I was just curious as to what he said that you took such offense to. Seemed like a fairly innocuous comment.
44 wins in five years is pretty darn good success. I don't recall you ever complimenting Kirk.
Why do I need to compliment KF? Because he wins ~9 games a year? Because his offense is the worst in college football? Because he hasn't beaten a ranked team in X amount of years? Because his bowl record in the last 5 years is shit? I can go on if you want.
Go back and read the title of the thread and then the questioned posed. MY OPINION is that KF's offense is worse than FMcC defense. Thats it.
I would argue that McCaffery has captured more of the public's eyes with his All-American players. He always has a winning record, so the program comes off well. On the other hand, while Kirk may put players into the NFL, the casual fan doesn't know about that and is just aware that the talking heads have made the Hawkeyes the butt of a thousand jokes. You just can't ignore that reputation if you are an AD.
Up there with*
Did I say matched? No.
*ok I reread what I wrote and I misspoke. My point was they’re right up there for most wins across that time frame, amongst others OSU and Bama. Yes not the same win pct.
Well, he let his son steal nearly a million dollars (!) a year to put himself on the Ferentz Easy Street in Iowa City in a new mansion. In return, Junior game Iowa football the worse offense in the country for a number of years, almost impossible to do unless you are trying or truly incompetent! Kirk knows football, right? He knew what was happening.
3 wins per season less than those teams. But yes, right there with them.
I read just fine. Posted exactly what Billiken said. You are the one that seems to have cognitive issues.
How did that Rutgers bet go?
Try again.
For one thing, I don't think anybody considers, "2", to be "a number of years."
The mansion is irrelevant to your point.
And your characterization of BF giving Iowa the worst offense is inaccurate, lazy, and not well-intentioned. Iowa's offense under BF was plenty serviceable until the O-line broke, which he pretty much had nothing to do with. Nor was playing most of '23 with an emergency QB much of BF's doing.
It's truly amazing the crap that people have allowed themselves to believe, just because they have one problem or another with KF
Lololol.. Would you care to post the records for most of the rest of the P4 the last decade? Here's a clue. Iowa is top 10 the last 8 or 9 years in record and one of 6 teams to win at least 8 games every year. I know, we don't play anyone though right?
One of 5 teams with 8+ wins in the last 10 seasons.
Led the country in least penalty yardage, which is the sign of a well-coached team, if there ever was one.
But hey, fire the coach, say the helpless. You can't make this stuff up
I am not Billiken.
The Rutgers game went as expected. I am blessed to have had an opportunity to invest in a long term money-maker
Betting on a sporting event is as good of a long-term money-maker as buying a Powerball ticket. Actually worse because the people that run the lotteries don't actively influence the participants. But you do you.
Poor Brian. He coached great but the offense played lousy. Certainly not at all his fault! You act like the Ferentz clan is going to read these forums and invite you to dinner. Sorry. Your opinion is no better than anybody' elses and not as good as most.
Everyone I know that gambles always talks about their great success and confident, winning knowledge.
They also are in the same financial position, or worse, than they ever were.
They also complain about the prices of necessities, like everyone else.
I'd agree the national idea of Iowa football offense is reason one why he should be let go. Well and all the lawsuits when did schools stop caring about looking bad to the public?
You are a fool to take the sellouts at Kinnick for granted. There are many solid teams that don’t draw like Iowa. With every game televised now and the expense involved it is a big credit to Kirk that Kinnick is sold out regularly. The lack of awareness in this thread is an embarrassment to all spouting this nonsense.
Oh Ladell. Bless your heart calling someone else a fool. If fans were willing to spend their hard earned money to watch one of the worst offenses in the history of major college football, I think they'll be just fine.
I read just fine. And you are well known for having your lips firmly planted on your hero's wrinkly rear end!
Come on man, you are clueless. Have you forgotten all the Iowa football players that have won individual national awards and all the Consensus All Americans ? Fran has had Luka and the Murray brothers who have gotten national recognition. It isn’t even close to what Kirk has achieved. Wake up man !
Oh yeah? Well my freaking mail man never gave me shit about Fran's defense. We don't live in Iowa, and he knows nothing about college football, except he knew to mention that he heard that Iowa's offense was complete shit. Let that one sink in.
Yeah it's not surprising. That's how dumb the casual fan is. Especially football.
And the media members have to find unique things to talk about. But between their stupidity and fans'/general public's stupidity, they've missed the main and most unique part of the story, which was Iowa was still winning a lot of games, and in a fashion that nobody else was doing it.
I literally saw two different people last season completely shocked to have learned Iowa was in the big ten title game. They both said they assumed Iowa wasn't any good because all they heard about was the poor offense.
This stuff is what's wrong with the world today, not what should be used to judge anything
Well heck, if you can’t handle the ol mailman no wonder you’re always whining and bitching, lol.
Trying not to call out any coaches.
But an easy counterpoint would be Kirk's offense has been serviceable 24 out of 26 seasons.
Fran's D has been serviceable in maybe a couple of 14 seasons. Over those 14 seasons total, Iowa is last in the league in defense
Well heck son. I like my mailman. He's a good dude. He's also just another reflection of how Kirk has done a lot of good things, but so much of that has been overshadowed by the disastrous offensive stretch that he himself created through his own hubris. People like you acting like that didn't happen and isn't still a significant hurdle to overcome are ignoring reality, because heck son, you can't handle the truth.
By disastrous offensive stretch, I would assume you mean the two seasons the offense wasn't serviceable.
Sure KF was the chef of the recipe that compounded everything. But what actually led to the offense going from serviceable to broken was almost entirely beyond his control.
And it should be said that he was also the chef of the recipe that navagitaed the unserviceable offense to 9 and 10 wins.
It has all been laid out on this board over the past few years. Pay better attention.
It's amazing how certain types of fans will end up mischaracterizing the past, present, and future
Sure KF was the chef of the recipe that compounded everything. But what actually led to the offense going from serviceable to broken was almost entirely beyond his control.
And it should be said that he was also the chef of the recipe that navagitaed the unserviceable offense to 9 and 10 wins.
It has all been laid out on this board over the past few years. Pay better attention.
It's amazing how certain types of fans will end up mischaracterizing the past, present, and future
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