Who do you have on your 2024 baseball HOF ballot?

[lucas80]

I think Adrian Beltré gets in on the first ballot. It's very hard to turn back a guy with 3000 hits. If he'd played in better media markets for better teams it wouldn't be a question. Joe Mauer seems like a guy who gets in after a year or two.
Three holdovers are inching up. Billy Wagner, Todd Helton and Andruw Jones. I'd put Wagner in.
https://www.mlb.com/news/2024-hall-of-fame-ballot-released

 

[jawatkins]

Pete Rose
Barry Bonds
Johnny Dickshot
Alex Rodriguez

 

[DirtyJohns97]

I think Adrian Beltré gets in on the first ballot. It's very hard to turn back a guy with 3000 hits. If he'd played in better media markets for better teams it wouldn't be a question. Joe Mauer seems like a guy who gets in after a year or two.
Three holdovers are inching up. Billy Wagner, Todd Helton and Andruw Jones. I'd put Wagner in.
https://www.mlb.com/news/2024-hall-of-fame-ballot-released

He should be in for this alone

 

[lonestar50]

Old voters who never vote anyone in on the first ballot need to die off. Players should get one chance at it and if some years no one gets in so be it. They didn't get any better in retirement. Explain to me how someone is deserving after the fifth try but not the fourth

 

[DirtyJohns97]

Old voters who never vote anyone in on the first ballot need to die off. Players should get one chance at it and if some years no one gets in so be it. They didn't get any better in retirement. Explain to me how someone is deserving after the fifth try but not the fourth

Because what if you retired at the same time as a bunch of other awesome players?

 

[lonestar50]

Because what if you retired at the same time as a bunch of other awesome players?

So. There's no maximum number of players that can get in at once. Or if there is, that's another rule that needs to be changed

 

[DirtyJohns97]

So. There's no maximum number of players that can get in at once. Or if there is, that's another rule that needs to be changed

Maybe you should work out the kinks in your proposal and get back to us.

 

[JRHawk2003]

Shoeless Joe Jackson

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Old voters who never vote anyone in on the first ballot need to die off. Players should get one chance at it and if some years no one gets in so be it. They didn't get any better in retirement. Explain to me how someone is deserving after the fifth try but not the fourth

Yes!

And no more Veterans’ Committee or whatever they call it.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Beltre and Wagner I guess
I’d say no on Helton and Mauer.

 

[McLovin32]

 

[Bro D]

ARod
Manny
Sheffield
Beltre
Helton
Wagner
Jones

 

[Herky T Hawk]

I think it is about time the great umpire Enrico Pallazo gets inducted.

 

[JRHawk2003]

Mauer, Helton and Beltre all get in.

Weak class IMO

 

[hawkirugged17]

 

[lucas80]

Honestly, Helton just doesn't do it for me.

 

[hawkirugged17]

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Honestly, Helton just doesn't do it for me.

He was a fantastic player. HoF? Not sure about that.

But they let so many in these days.

 

[Bro D]

Baseball writers are the worst

 

[JRHawk2003]

Worst class since???

 

[lucas80]

He was a fantastic player. HoF? Not sure about that.

But they let so many in these days.

Coors Field bias. There is no doubt he was a fine player, but if some nerd wants to find his home/away splits for us, great, but I'm pretty sure Coors aided his numbers.

 

[joelbc1]

Shoeless Joe Jackson has never been seriously considered….as he was never really “proven” guilty…. He knew of what was going on, true…. He just kept it to himself. Nothing in his world series resume indicates he was a participant.,

 

[General Tso]

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Mauer grew up within 2 miles of Winfield, Morris, ans Molitor childhood homes

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Coors Field bias. There is no doubt he was a fine player, but if some nerd wants to find his home/away splits for us, great, but I'm pretty sure Coors aided his numbers.

Hall of Fame Statistics​

Black Ink

Batting - 16 (183rd), Average HOFer ≈ 27

Gray Ink

Batting - 143 (133rd), Average HOFer ≈ 144

Hall of Fame Monitor

Batting - 175 (62nd), Likely HOFer ≈ 100

Hall of Fame Standards

Batting - 59 (37th), Average HOFer ≈ 50

JAWS

First Base (15th): 61.8 career WAR | 46.6 7yr-peak WAR | 54.2 JAWS | 4.5 WAR/162 Average HOF 1B (out of 24): 65.0 career WAR | 41.8 7yr-peak WAR | 53.4 JAWS | 4.8 WAR/162

Similarity Scores​

• Explanation of Similarity Scores

Similar Batters

1. Jeff Bagwell (859.7) *
2. Edgar Martínez (847.0) *
3. Luis Gonzalez (836.1)
4. Vladimir Guerrero (835.8) *
5. Orlando Cepeda (829.0) *
6. Andrés Galarraga (828.5)
7. Joey Votto (826.9)
8. Larry Walker (819.1) *
9. Jim Rice (813.5) *
10. Fred McGriff (805.9) *

* - Signifies Hall of Famer

 

[lucas80]

Hall of Fame Statistics​

Black Ink

Batting - 16 (183rd), Average HOFer ≈ 27

Gray Ink

Batting - 143 (133rd), Average HOFer ≈ 144

Hall of Fame Monitor

Batting - 175 (62nd), Likely HOFer ≈ 100

Hall of Fame Standards

Batting - 59 (37th), Average HOFer ≈ 50

JAWS

First Base (15th): 61.8 career WAR | 46.6 7yr-peak WAR | 54.2 JAWS | 4.5 WAR/162 Average HOF 1B (out of 24): 65.0 career WAR | 41.8 7yr-peak WAR | 53.4 JAWS | 4.8 WAR/162

Similarity Scores​

• Explanation of Similarity Scores

Similar Batters

1. Jeff Bagwell (859.7) *
2. Edgar Martínez (847.0) *
3. Luis Gonzalez (836.1)
4. Vladimir Guerrero (835.8) *
5. Orlando Cepeda (829.0) *
6. Andrés Galarraga (828.5)
7. Joey Votto (826.9)
8. Larry Walker (819.1) *
9. Jim Rice (813.5) *
10. Fred McGriff (805.9) *

* - Signifies Hall of Famer

Yeah, dumb that down for me. Maybe some pictures.
In or out? What are you saying?

 

[10kHawk]

MLB hall of fame a shell of what it was, not rock and roll hall of fame bad but on the road to not being taken seriously. Very weak class.

 

[hawkirugged17]

Coors Field bias. There is no doubt he was a fine player, but if some nerd wants to find his home/away splits for us, great, but I'm pretty sure Coors aided his numbers.

Here are Helton's Home and Away career stats

Link = https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=heltoto01&year=Career&t=b

Home or Away​

I	Split	G	GS	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	ROE	BAbip	tOPS+
	Home	1141	1084	4841	4038	874	1394	321	28	227	859	24	15	710	514	.345	.441	.607	1.048	2452	97	29	2	60	99	46	.348	119
	Away	1106	1052	4612	3924	527	1125	271	9	142	547	13	14	625	661	.287	.386	.469	.855	1840	89	28	1	33	86	38	.312	80