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Who is “they” that’s controlling the weather?

A group called "Scenic Iowa" or something like that, came across my fbook yesterday, and it was post about some circular shaped clouds someone took a pic of in Keokuk county and posted in there. I made the mistake of reading the comments, and someone posted a link explaining exactly what type of clouds they were. But everyone else was discussing how the government is now in control, and they were the ones "experimenting" with those clouds over Iowa. It was depressing reading all the idiotic bullshit that these people believe and knowing they're from Iowa makes it even worse. Immediately reminded me about why I never read any comments on social media sites.
 
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A group called "Scenic Iowa" or something like that, came across my fbook yesterday, and it was post about some circular shaped clouds someone took a pic of in Keokuk county and posted in there. I made the mistake of reading the comments, and someone posted a link explaining exactly what type of clouds they were. But everyone else was discussing how the government is now in control, and they were the ones "experimenting" with those clouds over Iowa. It was depressing reading all the idiotic bullshit that these people believe and knowing they're from Iowa makes it even worse. Immediately reminded me about why I never read any comments on social media sites.

The scary part is, if they believe the government is controlling the weather, then they'll believe anything put in front of them. These are really odd times with a lot of odd people.
 
Chicoms are pretty unabashed about intervening in weather patterns:

Hong Kong(CNN)
China this week revealed plans to drastically expand an experimental weather modification program to cover an area of over 5.5 million square kilometers (2.1 million square miles) -- more than 1.5 times the total size of India.

According to a statement from the State Council, China will have a "developed weather modification system" by 2025, thanks to breakthroughs in fundamental research and key technologies, as well as improvements in "comprehensive prevention against safety risks."

In the next five years, the total area covered by artificial rain or snowfall will reach 5.5 million sq km, while over 580,000 sq km (224,000 sq miles) will be covered by hail suppression technologies. The statement added that the program will help with disaster relief, agricultural production, emergency responses to forest and grassland fires, and dealing with unusually high temperatures or droughts.

China has long sought to control the weather to protect farming areas and to ensure clear skies for key events -- it seeded clouds ahead of the 2008 Beijing Olympics to reduce smog and avoid rain ahead of the competition. Key political meetings held in the Chinese capital are notorious for enjoying beautiful clear skies, thanks both to weather modification and the shutting down of nearby factories.
 
Chicoms are pretty unabashed about intervening in weather patterns:

Hong Kong(CNN)
China this week revealed plans to drastically expand an experimental weather modification program to cover an area of over 5.5 million square kilometers (2.1 million square miles) -- more than 1.5 times the total size of India.

According to a statement from the State Council, China will have a "developed weather modification system" by 2025, thanks to breakthroughs in fundamental research and key technologies, as well as improvements in "comprehensive prevention against safety risks."

In the next five years, the total area covered by artificial rain or snowfall will reach 5.5 million sq km, while over 580,000 sq km (224,000 sq miles) will be covered by hail suppression technologies. The statement added that the program will help with disaster relief, agricultural production, emergency responses to forest and grassland fires, and dealing with unusually high temperatures or droughts.

China has long sought to control the weather to protect farming areas and to ensure clear skies for key events -- it seeded clouds ahead of the 2008 Beijing Olympics to reduce smog and avoid rain ahead of the competition. Key political meetings held in the Chinese capital are notorious for enjoying beautiful clear skies, thanks both to weather modification and the shutting down of nearby factories.
Ah, so it's Chinese space lasers!! Thanks for clearing that up.
 
The scary part is, if they believe the government is controlling the weather, then they'll believe anything put in front of them. These are really odd times with a lot of odd people.
We may never recover as a nation because people like her have a lot of power and millions of other Americans can be so easily influenced into believing this nonsense.
 
Chicoms are pretty unabashed about intervening in weather patterns:

Hong Kong(CNN)
China this week revealed plans to drastically expand an experimental weather modification program to cover an area of over 5.5 million square kilometers (2.1 million square miles) -- more than 1.5 times the total size of India.

According to a statement from the State Council, China will have a "developed weather modification system" by 2025, thanks to breakthroughs in fundamental research and key technologies, as well as improvements in "comprehensive prevention against safety risks."

In the next five years, the total area covered by artificial rain or snowfall will reach 5.5 million sq km, while over 580,000 sq km (224,000 sq miles) will be covered by hail suppression technologies. The statement added that the program will help with disaster relief, agricultural production, emergency responses to forest and grassland fires, and dealing with unusually high temperatures or droughts.

China has long sought to control the weather to protect farming areas and to ensure clear skies for key events -- it seeded clouds ahead of the 2008 Beijing Olympics to reduce smog and avoid rain ahead of the competition. Key political meetings held in the Chinese capital are notorious for enjoying beautiful clear skies, thanks both to weather modification and the shutting down of nearby factories.
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The scary part is, if they believe the government is controlling the weather, then they'll believe anything put in front of them. These are really odd times with a lot of odd people.
You're 100% spot on
 
Ah, so it's Chinese space lasers!! Thanks for clearing that up.

Weather modification isn’t fantasy.

The real concerns (not talking about MTG, but thinking of the last thread this subject came up) being raised are the understanding that in the short run you’re working with a closed system and zero sum game. If Iowa seeds clouds they’re potentially ‘stealing’ rain from Missouri or Illinois farms.

I’m sure the Chinese would love to be able to steer typhoons into Taiwan instead of eat them.

That’s why we entered this treaty decades ago:

The Environmental Modification Convention(ENMOD), formally the Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques, is an international treaty prohibiting the military or other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects. It opened for signature on 18 May 1977 in Geneva and entered into force on 5 October 1978.

The problem of artificial modification of the environment for military or other hostile purposes was brought to the international agenda in the early 1970s. Following the US decision of July 1972 to renounce the use of climate modification techniques for hostile purposes, the 1973 resolution by the US Senate calling for an international agreement "prohibiting the use of any environmental or geophysical modification activity as a weapon of war", and an in-depth review by the Department of Defense of the military aspects of weather and other environmental modification techniques, US decided to seek agreement with the Soviet Union to explore the possibilities of an international agreement.
In July 1974, US and USSR agreed to hold bilateral discussions on measures to overcome the danger of the use of environmental modification techniques for military purposes and three subsequent rounds of discussions in 1974 and 1975. In August 1975, US and USSR tabled identical draft texts of a convention at the Conference of the Committee on Disarmament (CCD), Conference on Disarmament, where intensive negotiations resulted in a modified text and understandings regarding four articles of this Convention in 1976.
The convention was approved by Resolution 31/72 of the General Assembly of the United Nations on 10 December 1976, by 96 to 8 votes with 30 abstentions.
 
Weather modification isn’t fantasy.

The real concerns (not talking about MTG, but thinking of the last thread this subject came up) being raised are the understanding that in the short run you’re working with a closed system and zero sum game. If Iowa seeds clouds they’re potentially ‘stealing’ rain from Missouri or Illinois farms.

I’m sure the Chinese would love to be able to steer typhoons into Taiwan instead of eat them.

That’s why we entered this treaty decades ago:

The Environmental Modification Convention(ENMOD), formally the Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques, is an international treaty prohibiting the military or other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects. It opened for signature on 18 May 1977 in Geneva and entered into force on 5 October 1978.

The problem of artificial modification of the environment for military or other hostile purposes was brought to the international agenda in the early 1970s. Following the US decision of July 1972 to renounce the use of climate modification techniques for hostile purposes, the 1973 resolution by the US Senate calling for an international agreement "prohibiting the use of any environmental or geophysical modification activity as a weapon of war", and an in-depth review by the Department of Defense of the military aspects of weather and other environmental modification techniques, US decided to seek agreement with the Soviet Union to explore the possibilities of an international agreement.
In July 1974, US and USSR agreed to hold bilateral discussions on measures to overcome the danger of the use of environmental modification techniques for military purposes and three subsequent rounds of discussions in 1974 and 1975. In August 1975, US and USSR tabled identical draft texts of a convention at the Conference of the Committee on Disarmament (CCD), Conference on Disarmament, where intensive negotiations resulted in a modified text and understandings regarding four articles of this Convention in 1976.
The convention was approved by Resolution 31/72 of the General Assembly of the United Nations on 10 December 1976, by 96 to 8 votes with 30 abstentions.
yeah, people have been seeding clouds for decades.
Completely not relevant. But on brand for your posts.
 
yeah, people have been seeding clouds for decades.
Completely not relevant. But on brand for your posts.

More relevant:

Bill Gates Patents a Device Aimed at Halting Hurricanes​


By Eliza Strickland
Jul 16, 2009

Five patent applications for technology that aims to control the weather bear the signature of a man who knows how to think big: Microsoft founder Bill Gates. The applications made public by the U.S. Patent Office last week describe floating devices that could reduce the strength of hurricanes by drawing warm water from the ocean's surface and channeling it down to the depths through a long tube. A second tube would reverse the process and bring deep, cold water up to the surface. The applications were filed by an entity called Searete, which is part of the company Intellectual Ventures that was founded by former Microsoft executives as an "invention business;" Bill Gates is an investor in the company. Gates is listed as one of the inventors on each hurricane-quelling patent application, along with scientists like the geoengineering expert Ken Caldeira. One of the patent applications describes how part or all of the cost of building and maintaining the hurricane-killer ships could be raised by selling insurance to coastal residents whose risk would be reduced by using the new system [New Orleans Times-Picayune].
 
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yeah, people have been seeding clouds for decades.
Completely not relevant. But on brand for your posts.
How is it not relevant? Is it not weather modification? I don't think for a second anything to do with Helene and the destruction in the SE has anything to do with weather modification, but it's clearly a real thing. It's amazing how many people don't know this or worse yet deny it.
 
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How is it not relevant? Is it not weather modification? I don't think for a second anything to do with Helene and the destruction in the SE has anything to do with weather modification, but it's clearly a real thing. It's amazing how many people don't know this or worse yet deny it.
You said it yourself. Thanks.
 
If we had the ability to engineer a storm of that magnitude and unleash it why would the southeast US be the target?

Couldn't we essentially destroy Iran, China, and Russia within a few years while also sending relief to their people and winning them over?
I guess only the MAGA congresswoman knows the answer to that.
 
How is it not relevant? Is it not weather modification? I don't think for a second anything to do with Helene and the destruction in the SE has anything to do with weather modification, but it's clearly a real thing. It's amazing how many people don't know this or worse yet deny it.

Another fvcking idiot.... it's not a coincidence that they are both have voted for Trump
 
You said it yourself. Thanks.
Okay, but space lasers? Read the thread. Most everyone commenting has no idea this happens, nor would they believe it unless spoon fed by a partisan source for their perceived benefit.
Some more on who "they" are on a global scale.
Is it realky too much to believe this could be abused by bad actors around the world?
 
Okay, but space lasers? Read the thread. Most everyone commenting has no idea this happens, nor would they believe it unless spoon fed by a partisan source for their perceived benefit.
Some more on who "they" are on a global scale.
Is it realky too much to believe this could be abused by bad actors around the world?
Who doesn't know about cloud seeding? It's been going on for nearly 100 years.
Tell me, what is the current thinking on it's effectiveness?
 
Exactly, he's so stupid he thinks modification is the same thing as controlling
How does one control weather without modification?
This seems like silly semantics.

I have no reason to believe anyone has the ability today to steer, much less generate, a hurricane, but people are working on it (steering and diminishing), and people like Bill Gates are dumping their real money into it.
He’s fun to clown on, but I’m not sure he’s pissing that money away with zero expectation of return.
 
Of course we can seed clouds…no one would dispute that. What is remarkable is the twist of logic people have to go through to even think starting and controlling a hurricane is remotely feasible. It fails on multiple fronts:

1. Seeding a cloud and literally controlling a massive hurricane are two very different propositions. It’s not like this could be done with a couple airplanes. We are talking a massive mobilization and even then you wouldn’t be able to control it.
2. Why would the US government want to weaponize a hurricane in the first place? For what purpose? To stick it to the panhandle and western North Carolina. This hurricane was pretty apolitical devastating some deep red areas and the very blue Ashville. There is no conceivable reason for us to do this to ourselves. Hell if we could weaponize the weather I’m pretty sure we would have started with some enemies first.
3. Imagine the resources required to execute this. Hell, to fly one plane to seed a small cloud likely requires 2 pilots and 1-2 technicians. Now multiply that to hurricane scale. We are talking hundreds to thousands of people that would have to be involved. And the activity would be very visible to Russian and Chinese spy satellites.
4. And not one of those people would say a word of this to their family, friends?

Anyway, MTG probably knows all this. It is just a convenient way to distract her dumbass base by showing them a bright shiny object so they don’t focus on how little she and the rest of GOP does to actually help them.
 
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