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Why are non believers so vile and vulgar...

You sure? Which ones are law?

  1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
  2. You shall not make idols.
  3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
  4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
  5. Honor your father and your mother.
  6. You shall not murder.
  7. You shall not commit adultery.
  8. You shall not steal.
  9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
  10. You shall not covet.
6 and 8 are law...the rest are conduct we should all strive to live by.
 
You have a chicken and egg problem. Killing, thieving, lying etc. we're all illegal before there were commandments. In fact they were commandments in the Egyptian religion before the Hebrews edited them. But it's the religious laws that are a bad idea to implement, don't you agree?
I never said we should implement a theocracy...that never was the plan.
 
I never said we should implement a theocracy...that never was the plan.
You did say that. Maybe unwittingly, but that's why I'm here to point out when you say you want Gods 10 laws to rule, you are calling for a theocracy.
 
Yes you did.
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It's not that way with all religious people, it's people like you. Sanctimonious blow-hards tend to reap a shit-storm on the internet when they tell non-religious people that they're going to hell.
 
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when the topic of religious faith is brought up. Why do atheists spend every waking hour of their existence looking for ways to denigrate and destroy something they claim to have no interest in?
Jakeleg, do you have one? Just wondered.
 
It's not that way with all religious people, it's people like you. Sanctimonious blow-hards tend to reap a shit-storm on the internet when they tell non-religious people that they're going to hell.
It's not that way with all religious people, it's people like you. Sanctimonious blow-hards tend to reap a shit-storm on the internet when they tell non-religious people that they're going to hell.
My faith says you will...I'm sorry for you but it is cut and dried...there is hope for you however.
 
The 4th definition should make your error clear. Gnostics are theists of a particular branch of Christianity that thought Jesus was a spiritual ideal, not a physical man. That this idea was so prevalent at the start of the religion opens a fascinating line of discussion.

Buddy, you can't just pick one of the four definitions and tell me that "it's clear."
 
Buddy, you can't just pick one of the four definitions and tell me that "it's clear."
Sure I can, I know the topic and was clueing you into which definition fit best to describe a religious belief. If you understood the topic you wouldn't need the help.
 
Sure I can, I know the topic and was clueing you into which definition fit best to describe a religious belief. If you understood the topic you wouldn't need the help.

In my whole life, I have never seen someone so ignorant, be so smug. It really brings a smile to my face, to see you struggle so much.

You can cherry pick whatever you want, and be smug about it...and maybe Ciggy will even give you a like for it, but you know, I know, and everyone else with half a brain knows how ignorant/retarded you are. That's why I love "debating" with you. Your ridiculous obfuscation is always an easy win.
 
In my whole life, I have never seen someone so ignorant, be so smug. It really brings a smile to my face, to see you struggle so much.

You can cherry pick whatever you want, and be smug about it...and maybe Ciggy will even give you a like for it, but you know, I know, and everyone else with half a brain knows how ignorant/retarded you are. That's why I love "debating" with you. Your ridiculous obfuscation is always an easy win.
Oh honey we never debate. I just school you and point out your ignorance. But we agree, you are easy.
 
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If it helps you sleep tonight, you are definitely correct.
It did, thank you. You gave me a set of definitions where the 4th was a noun. You compared atheists (a noun) with gnostics. Therefore taking the noun definition is the correct choice. You should be embarrassed both for not understanding your own point about what a gnostic is and for not understanding how to use a dictionary. But I suspect that explanation will simply confuse you more and you will call it vague.
 
Online atheist come out in droves. IRL not so much. Fact of the matter is the hard core atheist are as annoying as the hard core Christian. Most on both sides just want the extremists to shut the hell up.
 
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Not to me, but I can appreciate how science might appear that way. The main difference in my mind is that science follows natural laws and is replicable. Magic is the stuff of a supernatural universe that I don't see any evidance of actually existing.

Natural, the silly man-like God that so many worship is, IMO, allegorical. Proving the nonexitence of this God is the beginning of a journey of faith, not the end of it. That's my personal bitch with atheists.

Also simply saying that our world conforms to the laws of science does not demystify life. Where did the laws of science originate? Why are we here? How does a srewed up species like man survive? I'm in awe of everything I see.
 
Natural, the silly man-like God that so many worship is, IMO, allegorical. Proving the nonexitence of this God is the beginning of a journey of faith, not the end of it. That's my personal bitch with atheists.

Also simply saying that our world conforms to the laws of science does not demystify life. Where did the laws of science originate? Why are we here? How does a srewed up species like man survive? I'm in awe of everything I see.
I like this. Atheism isn't an end point either. Atheism is a search for understanding. That's why I talk about it so much. Sometimes people will say something interesting like you have here. Theists are forever misrepresenting atheism. Atheists do not claim to know or believe there is no god in any definitive way. We only claim there is no reason to believe that there is a god of the sort commonly presented. This atheist would welcome a good theist proof, but thus far theists haven't provided me one. This atheist would welcome some other explanation fully acknowledging that I may not understand what it might be. But Atheism is not an answer, its a rejection of a certain set of answers commonly given.
 
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I like this. Atheism isn't an end point either. Atheism is a search for understanding. That's why I talk about it so much. Sometimes people will say something interesting like you have here. Theists are forever misrepresenting atheism. Atheists do not claim to know or believe there is no god in any definitive way. We only claim there is no reason to believe that there is a god of the sort commonly presented. This atheist would welcome a good theist proof, but thus far theists haven't provided me one. This atheist would welcome some other explanation fully acknowledging that I may not understand what it might be. But Atheism is not an answer, its a rejection of a certain set of answers commonly given.

Great post - I like the last part. Just in - "Take Carolina and give the points" - God.
 
You sure? Which ones are law?

  1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
  2. You shall not make idols.
  3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
  4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
  5. Honor your father and your mother.
  6. You shall not murder.
  7. You shall not commit adultery.
  8. You shall not steal.
  9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
  10. You shall not covet.
I think Bill Clinton removed # 6 and # 10 by executive order, if I remember right.
 
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