Can you explain why we now have technology at our fingertips that wasn't even in theory 150 years ago?Interesting idea. Not testable in any way.
Can you explain why we now have technology at our fingertips that wasn't even in theory 150 years ago?Interesting idea. Not testable in any way.
6 and 8 are law...the rest are conduct we should all strive to live by.You sure? Which ones are law?
- You shall have no other gods before Me.
- You shall not make idols.
- You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
- Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
- Honor your father and your mother.
- You shall not murder.
- You shall not commit adultery.
- You shall not steal.
- You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
- You shall not covet.
Yes, science, not magic. Did you imagine that would stump us?Can you explain why we now have technology at our fingertips that wasn't even in theory 150 years ago?
I never said we should implement a theocracy...that never was the plan.You have a chicken and egg problem. Killing, thieving, lying etc. we're all illegal before there were commandments. In fact they were commandments in the Egyptian religion before the Hebrews edited them. But it's the religious laws that are a bad idea to implement, don't you agree?
No...but there was a catalyst involved...a divine one.Yes, science, not magic. Did you imagine that would stump us?
You did say that. Maybe unwittingly, but that's why I'm here to point out when you say you want Gods 10 laws to rule, you are calling for a theocracy.I never said we should implement a theocracy...that never was the plan.
Can you explain why we now have technology at our fingertips that wasn't even in theory 150 years ago?
6 and 8 are law...the rest are conduct we should all strive to live by.
Is this a theory with some support? What are the details? What are you pointing to as the divine catalyst?No...but there was a catalyst involved...a divine one.
That is correct...but all are laws to live by...good laws.So not many are law...despite your earlier assertion. And 9 is law in some circumstances.
No I didn't sir...You did say that. Maybe unwittingly, but that's why I'm here to point out when you say you want Gods 10 laws to rule, you are calling for a theocracy.
Ummmm...advancements? The better question - if technology is some gift from God - is why He waited so long to bestow His blessings upon us. Why didn't Noah have AccuWeather?
Yes you did.No I didn't sir...
By trying to write your religion into law? You might want to rethink that.
Why not? I happen to think the laws of God are much better than yours. Pretty simple since there are only 10 of them.Maybe you need to rethink that.
You can walk it back, but you can't deny typing it. You called for the 10 commandments to be law. That's calling for a theocracy. You're lucky they aren't law as you would be in violation of one right now.
Jakeleg, do you have one? Just wondered.when the topic of religious faith is brought up. Why do atheists spend every waking hour of their existence looking for ways to denigrate and destroy something they claim to have no interest in?
It's not that way with all religious people, it's people like you. Sanctimonious blow-hards tend to reap a shit-storm on the internet when they tell non-religious people that they're going to hell.
My faith says you will...I'm sorry for you but it is cut and dried...there is hope for you however.It's not that way with all religious people, it's people like you. Sanctimonious blow-hards tend to reap a shit-storm on the internet when they tell non-religious people that they're going to hell.
I think you just found the answer to your original question.My faith says you will...I'm sorry for you but it is cut and dried...there is hope for you however.
The 4th definition should make your error clear. Gnostics are theists of a particular branch of Christianity that thought Jesus was a spiritual ideal, not a physical man. That this idea was so prevalent at the start of the religion opens a fascinating line of discussion.
Sure I can, I know the topic and was clueing you into which definition fit best to describe a religious belief. If you understood the topic you wouldn't need the help.Buddy, you can't just pick one of the four definitions and tell me that "it's clear."
Sure I can, I know the topic and was clueing you into which definition fit best to describe a religious belief. If you understood the topic you wouldn't need the help.
Oh honey we never debate. I just school you and point out your ignorance. But we agree, you are easy.In my whole life, I have never seen someone so ignorant, be so smug. It really brings a smile to my face, to see you struggle so much.
You can cherry pick whatever you want, and be smug about it...and maybe Ciggy will even give you a like for it, but you know, I know, and everyone else with half a brain knows how ignorant/retarded you are. That's why I love "debating" with you. Your ridiculous obfuscation is always an easy win.
Oh honey we never debate. I just school you and point out your ignorance. But we agree, you are easy.
It did, thank you. You gave me a set of definitions where the 4th was a noun. You compared atheists (a noun) with gnostics. Therefore taking the noun definition is the correct choice. You should be embarrassed both for not understanding your own point about what a gnostic is and for not understanding how to use a dictionary. But I suspect that explanation will simply confuse you more and you will call it vague.If it helps you sleep tonight, you are definitely correct.
Not to me, but I can appreciate how science might appear that way. The main difference in my mind is that science follows natural laws and is replicable. Magic is the stuff of a supernatural universe that I don't see any evidance of actually existing.
I like this. Atheism isn't an end point either. Atheism is a search for understanding. That's why I talk about it so much. Sometimes people will say something interesting like you have here. Theists are forever misrepresenting atheism. Atheists do not claim to know or believe there is no god in any definitive way. We only claim there is no reason to believe that there is a god of the sort commonly presented. This atheist would welcome a good theist proof, but thus far theists haven't provided me one. This atheist would welcome some other explanation fully acknowledging that I may not understand what it might be. But Atheism is not an answer, its a rejection of a certain set of answers commonly given.Natural, the silly man-like God that so many worship is, IMO, allegorical. Proving the nonexitence of this God is the beginning of a journey of faith, not the end of it. That's my personal bitch with atheists.
Also simply saying that our world conforms to the laws of science does not demystify life. Where did the laws of science originate? Why are we here? How does a srewed up species like man survive? I'm in awe of everything I see.
I like this. Atheism isn't an end point either. Atheism is a search for understanding. That's why I talk about it so much. Sometimes people will say something interesting like you have here. Theists are forever misrepresenting atheism. Atheists do not claim to know or believe there is no god in any definitive way. We only claim there is no reason to believe that there is a god of the sort commonly presented. This atheist would welcome a good theist proof, but thus far theists haven't provided me one. This atheist would welcome some other explanation fully acknowledging that I may not understand what it might be. But Atheism is not an answer, its a rejection of a certain set of answers commonly given.
I think Bill Clinton removed # 6 and # 10 by executive order, if I remember right.You sure? Which ones are law?
- You shall have no other gods before Me.
- You shall not make idols.
- You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
- Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
- Honor your father and your mother.
- You shall not murder.
- You shall not commit adultery.
- You shall not steal.
- You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
- You shall not covet.