Persecutes women and homosexuality? Can anyone explain this to me?
Why do "liberals" support Islam, when it so "Vehemently"...
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It has become their adopted religion.
They can make victims out of anybody.
They can make victims out of anybody.
Shrug.
I'm only for making people settle down as I can see the cauldron of war bubbling again. Getting caught up in the common enemy crap makes it that much easier. Not that there is anyway to stop it, or that I am making any difference at all.
I thought you were an anti-war type Soup? Why do you want to fan the flames?
I'm only for making people settle down as I can see the cauldron of war bubbling again. Getting caught up in the common enemy crap makes it that much easier. Not that there is anyway to stop it, or that I am making any difference at all.
I thought you were an anti-war type Soup? Why do you want to fan the flames?
I'm not really trying to "fan the flames", I'm just trying to understand the hypocrisy that is the democratic party.
Good luck. i think moral victory summed it up well. Parties aren't real.
For the same reason I support Baptists......and evangelicals.....
Because many of them (liberals) think they are standing up for a persecuted minority and that stops their brain from examining the religion they are trying to defend.
I consider myself to be a liberal. I am not a fan of any religion (I'm an atheist). But I can see that when it comes to all the world's major religions, Islam is the worst when it comes to rights of women, homosexuals, and anyone who isn't a part of their religion in general. It really isn't close.
Most muslims are not terrorists, they are not willing to kill others or themselves to implement their views. But a very large percentage of them (in the ME and in Europe, not as much in the US) support imposing sharia law and support the crap terrorists do (or turn a blind eye to it). Polls have shown this to be the case. It is a religion that is not compatible with modern western society.
Yes, Christianity used to suck like Islam does today. But the vast majority of Christians and Christianity evolved away from those times. Islam hasn't left the middle ages and it won't anytime soon.
It would be nice if Christopher Hitchens were still around to tell it like it is.
I consider myself to be a liberal. I am not a fan of any religion (I'm an atheist). But I can see that when it comes to all the world's major religions, Islam is the worst when it comes to rights of women, homosexuals, and anyone who isn't a part of their religion in general. It really isn't close.
Most muslims are not terrorists, they are not willing to kill others or themselves to implement their views. But a very large percentage of them (in the ME and in Europe, not as much in the US) support imposing sharia law and support the crap terrorists do (or turn a blind eye to it). Polls have shown this to be the case. It is a religion that is not compatible with modern western society.
Yes, Christianity used to suck like Islam does today. But the vast majority of Christians and Christianity evolved away from those times. Islam hasn't left the middle ages and it won't anytime soon.
It would be nice if Christopher Hitchens were still around to tell it like it is.
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Moral, you're so messed up. It's so much easier to just kill those with whom you don't agree.
Those that fit what you are describing are the new regressive left (and their numbers are growing) and this excemption of liberal standards for Islam is due to their own racism of low expectations they hold towards those w brown skin.
climate change is their religion, the new world order is their end game, the liberal leftist jews and most all of islam in the liberal world have the new zion as their goal, a leftist communist theme
Because they see right wing, evangelical Christians as the bigger threat.
Christians were stoning people and cutting off their heads 400 years ago?
I was thinking Salem, but that's like 200.... also I'm not sure how those early colonists felt about Islam. Did they wage war on everyone else?
Think Spanish inquisition....not a nice time for non-catholics
While I don't support those aspects, or really any aspects, I do support this:
Yep. For example, I support Muslims being able to open a mosque near ground zero for this reason, even though the religion treats women and homosexuals poorly, and some members of the religion are violent criminals and terrorists.
And the same thing can be said for every other religion, and their members, in the world.
This is the only thing I can come up with too.
The old "the enemy of our enemy is our friend" doctrine. Perilous to say the least.
Turns out there's not going to be a mosque near Ground Zero. Not because of opposition from conservatives or anything. The developer decided he can make a shitload more money building a 70-story luxury condominium tower than he can with a 15-story Islamic community center. He plans to charge more than $3,000 per square foot.
Allahu akbar, indeed.
I think you need to understand the difference between supporting Islam in full and supporting Muslims against hatred and bigotry.
Any Muslim who wants to live in our country and abide by our laws ought to be welcome and should be allowed to practice their religion. On the other hand, we should speak out loudly against the institutionalized bigotry in countries such as Saudi Arabia.
I think Islam is a horrible religion as practiced by many. But we have good friends who are conservative Muslims yet live lives compatible with ours. Hence, I don't like Islam; but I have nothing against Muslims.
I'm not a liberal but I just don't believe in being a dick to someone just because someone else who claims to hold the same religion or who came from the same region or is of the same race did something evil.
I believe that all lives are important from conception to natural death and that prematurely taking innocent lives is evil no matter what race or religion those people are a part of.
I also believe that in general violence begets more violence.
I believe that all lives are important from conception to natural death and that prematurely taking innocent lives is evil no matter what race or religion those people are a part of.
I also believe that in general violence begets more violence.
I think most intelligent people understand this. Unfortunately there are a lot of unintelligent people out there who can't figure this out.
That's a bit much don't you think? There is no reason to open our doors to all muslims just to be nice.
Let's get real here. People who are acting like liberals don't like Islam as a philosophy. Liberals simply support the rights of all people to believe whatever crazy magical esoteric garbage they want so long as they draw a reasonable line at making others do anything in accord with their brand of crazy thinking. Just because liberals aren't a bunch of chicken littles running around with our hair on fire doesn't mean we have adopted Muhammad as our profit. Some of you posters live in an alternate universe.
Actually no, Islam is right where it wants to be. Islam is never going to change, if anything, it will get worse, much worse. Even if only 5% of muslims in the world today support the goals of ISIS, that is more than 50M likely terrorists. And the ugly truth is that in many muslims countries, the percentage is actually higher than 5%.
Sure. All those protests and loud denunciations from Peter King had nothing to do with the mosque being built near Ground Zero.
It used to be better. Islam lends itself to all sorts of fundamentalist thinking to be sure and I personally believe its more susceptible to this way of thinking than most other religions because of how it views its scriptures and prophet. But there is also this belief in Islam that God loves humans who think, because that's the uniquely human talent God gave us. In the past, this teaching was more emphasized. At points in their past they even celebrated gay people like the very first Sultan, Mahmud of Ghazni had a gay lover that was celebrated in poems and song.
That's so adorable. You think they knuckled under because they got pushback from Peter King.
No. Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and the real estate developer, Sharif El-Gamal, had a falling out and El-Gamal decided luxury condos would be much more profitable than an Islamic community center.
Does this look like the face of a man whose religious liberty was trampled? No, it does not. It's the face of a guy who is fabulously wealthy and about to get a lot wealthier.
Liberals support it only as much as we would any other religion as protected by our constitution. Islam is hardly the only religion some of who's practitioners persecute women and homosexuals. We do not generalize about the entire group of adherents on the basis of the few. Why is that so difficult to understand?
Curiously, though, liberals are quick to label Robert Lewis Dear a Christian terrorist or an anti-abortion extremist. They have no qualms about blaming Republican efforts to defund Planned Parenthood for Dear killing three people at a clinic. They don't hesitate to blame Sarah Palin's website graphic depicting a crosshair target on congressional district she wants to win back when a lunatic shoots Gabby Giffords.
So why are they so hesitant to blame radical Islam when Islamic radicals slaughter people?
You seriously can't see the hypocrisy?
One lunatic kills three people at a Planned Parenthood clinic and liberals cast blame on all Republicans and abortion opponents. But when a radicalized couple kills 14 people and seriously injures 22 others, we dare not mention the influence of their religious beliefs. We'll just call it a "workplace shooting" so as not to offend any other Muslims.
