Why does it appear like every political rule favors Republicans?

[Tom Paris]

I may not have phrased that perfectly but it always seems like Democrats are easy to block when trying to do things - even Tuberville was able to simply block military appointees by himself. Then when Republicans are jamming things through, or Trump can just fire judges or anyone he wants, the democrats just cry about it and use words to fight but accomplish next to nothing to slow things down.

Democratic leaders are really good at “hope” though. Republicans are far better at political rules and games than the Democrats are, imho.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I may not have phrased that perfectly but it always seems like Democrats are easy to block when trying to do things - even Tuberville was able to simply block military appointees by himself. Then when Republicans are jamming things through, or Trump can just fire judges or anyone he wants, the democrats just cry about it and use words to fight but accomplish next to nothing to slow things down.

Democratic leaders are really good at “hope” though. Republicans are far better at political rules and games than the Democrats are, imho.

You just now figuring out Democrats are worthless?

 

[Tom Paris]

You just now figuring out Democrats are worthless?

They aren’t worthless. They just generally bring butter knives to a gun fight.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

They aren’t worthless. They just generally bring butter knives to a gun fight.

Exactly.

Worthless.

 

[wilson reborn]

You just now figuring out Democrats are worthless?

GFY. Find another party

 

[seminole97]

GFY. Find another party

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

We bring the orange slices to halftime of the GOP gunfight.

Plus we are not as well organized as a monkey shit fight.

 

[NoWokeBloke]

OP probably wonders why the lawsuits against Trump get thrown out.

 

[Tom Paris]

The rare democrat who wins their engagements with Republicans is AOC on social media. It’s a mistake for them to call her out there because she generally destroys these old white guys.

Again, I keep reading things Trump is doing and I get pissed the dems didn’t preemptively do some of this stuff before January 20.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

The rare democrat who wins their engagements with Republicans is AOC on social media. It’s a mistake for them to call her out there because she generally destroys these old white guys.

Again, I keep reading things Trump is doing and I get pissed the dems didn’t preemptively do some of this stuff before January 20.

Seems that Biden did preemptively issue pardons for his mob, to everyone else he just said FU

 

[Scruddy]

It's because reality has a conservative bias

 

[KFsdisciple]

They aren’t worthless. They just generally bring butter knives to a gun fight.

Should we offer you some thoughts and prayers? Just kidding!

I promise you republicans felt the EXACT same way. There really is a uniparty and they DGAF about you or me or any of the constituents. Do you think we are fans of Cocaine Mitch?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

GFY. Find another party

Well, in my defense, since the GOP went cuckoo, I have been searching.

 

[KFsdisciple]

I would like to point out that if Scruddy or H4AD or another conservative voice had made a thread like this, there would be no less than 10 responses calling them a snowflake or perpetual victim. So good on our side for not falling into that yet.

 

[thewop]

I may not have phrased that perfectly but it always seems like Democrats are easy to block when trying to do things - even Tuberville was able to simply block military appointees by himself. Then when Republicans are jamming things through, or Trump can just fire judges or anyone he wants, the democrats just cry about it and use words to fight but accomplish next to nothing to slow things down.

Democratic leaders are really good at “hope” though. Republicans are far better at political rules and games than the Democrats are, imho.

Remember the Obama years? The rules favor the majority. The reason it's different this time is that Republicans are posturing as if they're actually going to take advantage of the rules to get things done, like Dems did when they had the advantage.

In the 2000s Republicans have sort of used their majority to be sure nothing crazy happens in the present, as a reprieve from the liberal agenda, but do very little themselves. This time they might actually use their majority like Dems do when given the chance.

You simply haven't experienced being in the minority when the other team actually wants to do anything. The last time that happened to you was the 80s, and Ds and Rs basically looked the same, especially in comparison to today's contrast.

 

[KFsdisciple]

Remember the Obama years? The rules favor the majority. The reason it's different this time is that Republicans are posturing as if they're actually going to take advantage of the rules to get things done, like Dems did when they had the advantage.

In the 2000s Republicans have sort of used their majority to be sure nothing crazy happens in the present, as a reprieve from the liberal agenda, but do very little themselves. This time they might actually use their majority like Dems do when given the chance.

You simply haven't experienced being in the minority when the other team actually wants to do anything. The last time that happened to you was the 80s, and Ds and Rs basically looked the same, especially in comparison to today's contrast.

This is really well said. It's crazy to go back and listen to Bill Clinton speak back in the 90's. He sounds more like today's republicans than he does today's progressive democrats. That's how far left the democrats have moved the country in the last 30 years when they have been in power.

To echo what you said, the republican party has mostly just been a speed bump for the Democrat party to pass on their way to furthering their agendas.

I think what has happened now is they have tried to go too far too fast and now they're just getting boxed out and out rebounded and are slower to the loose balls.

 

[Aardvark86]

I may not have phrased that perfectly but it always seems like Democrats are easy to block when trying to do things - even Tuberville was able to simply block military appointees by himself. Then when Republicans are jamming things through, or Trump can just fire judges or anyone he wants, the democrats just cry about it and use words to fight but accomplish next to nothing to slow things down.

Democratic leaders are really good at “hope” though. Republicans are far better at political rules and games than the Democrats are, imho.

Tom, I don’t think it’s actually as bad as you suggest.

But my theory is that the “right’s” approach to constitutional governance has been more process based and the “left’s” has been more about asserting substantive rights. So yes, I think r’s have understood and thought about those levers more.

But I think the “left” has woken up to the reality that that is modern constitutional interpretation (eg, kagan - “we’re all textualists now”), and is learning the process and structure arguments extremely quickly. And Trump is giving them plenty of opportunity to practice and refine their skills. He’s going to lose a lot of cases based on the same basic theories Biden did.

 

[stanzithemanzi12]

I may not have phrased that perfectly but it always seems like Democrats are easy to block when trying to do things - even Tuberville was able to simply block military appointees by himself. Then when Republicans are jamming things through, or Trump can just fire judges or anyone he wants, the democrats just cry about it and use words to fight but accomplish next to nothing to slow things down.

Democratic leaders are really good at “hope” though. Republicans are far better at political rules and games than the Democrats are, imho.

The Democrats know what they have been doing the last a years, and they know they need to just sit low for awhile now. The natio

They aren’t worthless. They just generally bring butter knives to a gun fight.

That's because you're a bunch of fruit cakes.

 

[Aardvark86]

Remember the Obama years? The rules favor the majority. The reason it's different this time is that Republicans are posturing as if they're actually going to take advantage of the rules to get things done, like Dems did when they had the advantage.

In the 2000s Republicans have sort of used their majority to be sure nothing crazy happens in the present, as a reprieve from the liberal agenda, but do very little themselves. This time they might actually use their majority like Dems do when given the chance.

You simply haven't experienced being in the minority when the other team actually wants to do anything. The last time that happened to you was the 80s, and Ds and Rs basically looked the same, especially in comparison to today's contrast.

Agreed, particularly as to the more political rules of the houses. And especially so because we’ve used so many extreme processes so frequently (impeachment, shutdowns) that there really isn’t any such thing as “brinksmanship” any more.

 

[Tenacious E]

I would like to point out that if Scruddy or H4AD or another conservative voice had made a thread like this, there would be no less than 10 responses calling them a snowflake or perpetual victim. So good on our side for not falling into that yet.

Trump isn’t a name caller?

 

[BioHawk]

I may not have phrased that perfectly but it always seems like Democrats are easy to block when trying to do things - even Tuberville was able to simply block military appointees by himself. Then when Republicans are jamming things through, or Trump can just fire judges or anyone he wants, the democrats just cry about it and use words to fight but accomplish next to nothing to slow things down.

Democratic leaders are really good at “hope” though. Republicans are far better at political rules and games than the Democrats are, imho.

Because Democrats are still trying to pretend that Republicans actually want to deal with them. Evidently they haven't picked up on the whole "we are no longer going to govern through Congress since we suck at passing any legislation" thing yet they are doing. I mean, they haven't passed a single bill yet that I am aware of but have managed to get the entire government to follow these edicts that Trump has made.

There just isn't anyone there that is prepared to deal with this scenario.

 

[BioHawk]

Remember the Obama years? The rules favor the majority. The reason it's different this time is that Republicans are posturing as if they're actually going to take advantage of the rules to get things done, like Dems did when they had the advantage.

In the 2000s Republicans have sort of used their majority to be sure nothing crazy happens in the present, as a reprieve from the liberal agenda, but do very little themselves. This time they might actually use their majority like Dems do when given the chance.

You simply haven't experienced being in the minority when the other team actually wants to do anything. The last time that happened to you was the 80s, and Ds and Rs basically looked the same, especially in comparison to today's contrast.

Democrats still would follow proper procedures and laws by running their agenda through Congress. Republicans are not doing this, that is a huge difference.

 

[yrunvs]

 

[Aardvark86]

Democrats still would follow proper procedures and laws by running their agenda through Congress. Republicans are not doing this, that is a huge difference.

Actually not quite true. That’s why the major questions doctrine actually got articulated, and why chevron is no more.

 

[BioHawk]

Actually not quite true. That’s why the major questions doctrine actually got articulated, and why chevron is no more.

Ok, well these guys aren't even following court orders. Has Trump unfrozen the money they've been ordered to do twice now?

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

I may not have phrased that perfectly but it always seems like Democrats are easy to block when trying to do things - even Tuberville was able to simply block military appointees by himself. Then when Republicans are jamming things through, or Trump can just fire judges or anyone he wants, the democrats just cry about it and use words to fight but accomplish next to nothing to slow things down.

Democratic leaders are really good at “hope” though. Republicans are far better at political rules and games than the Democrats are, imho.

Simple answer. . . D's arn't willing to F*** over the country to win. R's are.

D's are worried about the collateral damage of their actions. R's stopped worrying about that a long time ago.

That's why government shutdowns usually happen when the R's are in the minority. Because they will block a debt increase and not be bothered by the fact that government employees were not getting paid and that the national parks were shut down.

D's will give in to keep the national parks open and the government employees paychecks going through.

If you want to use a war analogy the D's are only willing to use small precision guided munitions while the R's are willing to use nukes.

 

[Aardvark86]

Ok, well these guys aren't even following court orders. Has Trump unfrozen the money they've been ordered to do twice now?

To be honest, I've sort of lost track on my scorecard. Also, add the rash of appointments clause/unitary executive theory cases to the list of things that are going to come back to bite him in the ass.

 

[KFsdisciple]

Trump isn’t a name caller?

When did Trump last post on this forum? Aren't we all supposed to be better than the convicted felon?

 

[KFsdisciple]

Simple answer. . . D's arn't willing to F*** over the country to win. R's are.

D's are worried about the collateral damage of their actions. R's stopped worrying about that a long time ago.

That's why government shutdowns usually happen when the R's are in the minority. Because they will block a debt increase and not be bothered by the fact that government employees were not getting paid and that the national parks were shut down.

D's will give in to keep the national parks open and the government employees paychecks going through.

If you want to use a war analogy the D's are only willing to use small precision guided munitions while the R's are willing to use nukes.

Death by a 1,000 paper cuts and a nuke still end the same way.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Newsflash: It’s only going to get worse for Democrats.

 

[Tenacious E]

When did Trump last post on this forum? Aren't we all supposed to be better than the convicted felon?

Well, he's the head of the GOP so I figured he counted.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

I may not have phrased that perfectly but it always seems like Democrats are easy to block when trying to do things - even Tuberville was able to simply block military appointees by himself. Then when Republicans are jamming things through, or Trump can just fire judges or anyone he wants, the democrats just cry about it and use words to fight but accomplish next to nothing to slow things down.

Democratic leaders are really good at “hope” though. Republicans are far better at political rules and games than the Democrats are, imho.

We’re just better than you.

 

[HawkeyeShawn]

Well, in my defense, since the GOP went cuckoo, I have been searching.

MAGA is insane. The mean girls don’t want you. Where is there to go?

 

[Scruddy]

MAGA is insane. The mean girls don’t want you. Where is there to go?

Maga: no men in the women's bathrooms anymore

Sean: "omg they're insane"

Lmfao

 

[KFsdisciple]

Maga: no men in the women's bathrooms anymore

Sean: "omg they're insane"

Lmfao

They honestly have 0 self awareness. The "community" has rotted their brains.

 

[seminole97]

Democrats still would follow proper procedures and laws by running their agenda through Congress. Republicans are not doing this, that is a huge difference.

Ultimately, the Democratic leadership was forced to buy support with special deals and kickbacks in order to ensure the necessary 216 vote minimum. As Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fla.) pointed out, “there ain’t no rules here, we’re trying to accomplish something. . . All this talk about rules. . . When the deal goes down . . . we make ‘em up as we go along.”

 

[Hans81]

The rare democrat who wins their engagements with Republicans is AOC on social media. It’s a mistake for them to call her out there because she generally destroys these old white guys.

Again, I keep reading things Trump is doing and I get pissed the dems didn’t preemptively do some of this stuff before January 20.

I’m not on social media (other than this site), so can you give me an example of AOC “destroying” an old white guy Repub on social media? I’m not doubting you that she has some comebacks against people attacking her; however, AOC doesn’t strike me as the most emotionally intelligent person, so I’m not sure her rebuttals would be taken too seriously. 🥴

 

[Nole Lou]

I may not have phrased that perfectly but it always seems like Democrats are easy to block when trying to do things - even Tuberville was able to simply block military appointees by himself. Then when Republicans are jamming things through, or Trump can just fire judges or anyone he wants, the democrats just cry about it and use words to fight but accomplish next to nothing to slow things down.

Democratic leaders are really good at “hope” though. Republicans are far better at political rules and games than the Democrats are, imho.

I've seen a lot of this sentiment recently, and I just don't think it's that true in a longer term. Historically, there a ton of examples of both parties extending executive power, trashing norms when it suits them, etc. Obama and Biden did a ton of executive orders to push things that they couldn't achieve legislatively. I mean, the office that is now Doge was created by Obama outside the normal channels of congressional approval. Some of their actions got knocked down by the courts. Some of Trump's will as well.

However, a couple reasons it definitely seems like the Republicans are ahead of the game on this now...

1. Democrats have been way more effective enacting their agenda through the bureaucracy and regulations, and achieving things via regulation and department edicts that they can't achieve by lawmaking. Someone else mentioned Chevron, and that's pretty relevant here, because that's the way Democrats have traditionally end run around the proper procedures. And that happens much more quietly.
2. Until recently, Democrats were way, way more effective than Republicans at legislating through the courts. Often in conjunction with #1. Republicans have gotten good at this too now.

So the two ways that Democrats had a massive advantage on non-legislative action have been neutralized a bit or Republicans have evened up.

3. Mitch McConnell was probably the best at his job since Lyndon Johnson. He is one of the absolute all-timers, and ran circles around his Democratic counterparts. You don't have to like him, but there's just no comparison between him and Schumer. That's just the coincidence of raw political talent, and is not indicative of Republican Senate leaders that preceded him or are likely to follow.

4. Trump doesn't really GAF. That isn't traditionally true of Republicans, even Trump's first term. Some of what he's doing is legitimate within his power, some of it is dubious, and some of it is ridiculous. We won't know for a bit what he's actually accomplished.

 

[Nole Lou]

I’m not on social media (other than this site), so can you give me an example of AOC “destroying” an old white guy Repub on social media? I’m not doubting you that she has some comebacks against people attacking her; however, AOC doesn’t strike me as the most emotionally intelligent person, so I’m not sure her rebuttals would be taken too seriously. 🥴

I agree with her on very little, and I think she's a great figurehead for Republicans to use on Democrats, given her far left positioning.

However, I think its absurd that anyone would still question her talent. She's not perfect, she makes mistakes, but Republicans pretending she is dumber than she really is, or that she's not really good at her shtick, is just silly.

Her communication ability and charisma is so far ahead of the squad...I have a prediction. I think at some point she breaks to the center. It might not be all at once, it might be gradual. But at some point she will pivot closer to the mainstream and sell out the rest of the squad. I don't think she would be wrong to think she should have national ambitions, and that won't work from where she stands right now.

 

[Arbor1]

Try to keep up boys. Your corrupt tears of blind allegiance are delicious. March on justice warriors. 😂