Refs don't have the balls to call it. It wasn't just the minimum 3 calls that were missed today against the Illini. Every game I see there are missed flop calls.
Why even have the flopping rule?
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I've been saying this all year! I've watched a ton of college basketball and it is very rarely called and happens all the time. Why are refs so afraid to call it I thought they were making it a point of emphasis this year? Apparently not
Can refs go to the monitor to review a questionable flop? Would be a pretty tough call to make most of the time. That foul on mayer’s 3 was a pretty blatant flop imo, didn’t see any contact whatsoever
I don't believe so since they can not call a foul after a review that they didn't call before it, I'm sure they can't then change a foul call either
The only contact I seen was Mayer kicking his own leg out as Kris ran by him to create the illusion of Kris 'contacting' him, thus "fouling" him.
Absolutely horrid call. Not only didn't Murray foul him, but also awarded the bad flop attempt.
Agreed. The flopping is rampant
The flopping rule just forced players to get better at flopping.
I assumed that. If they’re going to start actually enforcing flopping, they should open it up for reviews. I hate more stoppages in game play, but those calls are too tough to make in real time imo.
Yeah, the flopping rule isn’t getting enforced very well. It happened a few times in the Iowa game yesterday and then I was watching the Duke/NC game where they were flopping as well. At least if they are not calling it then they are not calling it for either side.
Not only hard to see any contact but the dude's body action is not natural for getting a bump. He looked like a dead frog with electrodes applied to his legs.
Face it KrisM had two very ticky tack, very questionable fouls called on him yesterday.
If the refs can't call flopping I would just like them to make no call if there is practically zero to zero contact.
Too many refs imagine they see contact in a certain context and it has been going on forever
Not an F1, but they call it a 'Class B Technical', or something similar. Where the other team is awarded a FT.
The ncaa is such a ****ing joke.
Flopping rule my ass, haven't seen it called in any game in months but I have seen a shit load of flopps.
The reffs do whatever they want because they're are no repercussions for their actions.
Flopping rule my ass, haven't seen it called in any game in months but I have seen a shit load of flopps.
The reffs do whatever they want because they're are no repercussions for their actions.
For those of you watching the Northwestern / Wisconsin game, NW just got hosed on a play that 100 percent should have been a flop on the Wisconsin defender. Just terrible.
Wisconsin just got away with an EGREGIOUS flop. Collins went nuts that the refs didn't call it.
Audige drives and seconds before contact - which there ended up being very little actual contact at the end of it - the Wisconsin kid threw his head back and started falling before Audige 'hit' him.
Even the announcers were incredulous that the flop wasn't called.
Audige drives and seconds before contact - which there ended up being very little actual contact at the end of it - the Wisconsin kid threw his head back and started falling before Audige 'hit' him.
Even the announcers were incredulous that the flop wasn't called.
Some people seem to love DJ Carstensen for some reason, but he's one of the worst refs around.
Hepburn clearly fouls Bouie on a reach-around, no call and then Bouie fouls Essegian because he was helped into falling on his legs by Hepburn's foul.
Hepburn clearly fouls Bouie on a reach-around, no call and then Bouie fouls Essegian because he was helped into falling on his legs by Hepburn's foul.
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Wisconsin gets away with another FLOP. Or at least a block. Instead the charge called on Audige.
jfc
jfc
And a second one! They called the offensive foul when there was no extended arm. A dip of the shoulder and the defender flopped immediately on contact.
I should be cheering for Wisconsin to have 2 game separation between both teams and Iowa... but I can't root for cheaters.
Wisconsin up 1. 35 seconds.
The ncaa is a ****ing joke.
Make a rule about stopping flopping and then do absolutely nothing to see that it is actually implemented.
Not one damn thing.
Make a rule about stopping flopping and then do absolutely nothing to see that it is actually implemented.
Not one damn thing.
It is embarrassing the calls Wisconsin gets on charges that aren’t charges.
HA! Hepburn tried to flop on that turnaround to take the lead and it wasn't called. Instead he almost airballed trying to do his theatrics.
Just like the "Freedom of Movement" rule, that lasted for only 2 seasons, and all of it in the first couple months of those seasons, IE the OOC portion of teams' schedules.
Whoever is running and works at the NCAA Officiating is robbing their employers blind, because they are doing nothing to earn whatever their pay is.
And the announcers were saying there was heavy contact. No, there was not, none. Suck it Bucky.
HAHAHA! Karma.
NW clearly traveled fighting over that final rebound between themselves and the refs let the final 2 seconds run off.
NW clearly traveled fighting over that final rebound between themselves and the refs let the final 2 seconds run off.
The ncaa doesn't care, they get to keep raking it in no matter the on court product.
It was mentioned during the analysis. Let the players decide the game on the court.
Wisconsin tries to win by just falling down.
Wisconsin's strategy is to try to "get away with something" both offensively and defensively. It seems as if they would play basketball, instead of trying get away. It is not as bad with Davison being gone as he would draw a charge and celebrate as if he had just won the game.
I agree with all the above on Wisconsin basketball and being disgusting. I was watching their game tonight as well and if NW lost that game on such an obvious flop it would have been a travesty. Gard teaches that play it's absolutely terrible.
Happens every year. Announce points of emphasis that get called during the non conference, then stop calling it once January rolls around.
In addition to Whisky teaching flopping, don't forget how the dirtiest player also learned his craft at Wisc, Brad Davidson.
And like flopping, the refs & the conference let it slide with no or real equivalent accountability.
Ergo, it will continue. How about after 2nd call, DQ'm.
Yep, the officials are unsupervised in any meaningful way so they just ignore the rule.
Ncaa has way to much on their plate supposedly being in charge of all college basketball.
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You know a lot of us complain about the same thing year after year, and it's never gets much better. Obviously if anyone is reviewing Big Ten officiating, they simply do not care about quality officiating. After decades of the same thing why would anyone think the officiating is not by design?
While in any given game the officiating can go any direction it's odd how often it benefits Michigan, Michigan St., tOSU, Indiana and Purdue. Is that just a coincidence also?
While in any given game the officiating can go any direction it's odd how often it benefits Michigan, Michigan St., tOSU, Indiana and Purdue. Is that just a coincidence also?
Like they passed the special emphasis and even a new definition of throwing the ball in someone's face to break a press. Then, the very next season the officials let it happen again, compound the cheating by calling a T on an Iowa player, while lying about a phantom punch they could not have seen. Yeah, see my immediately preceding post and you'll find what happens to "points of emphasis".
What can the conference do?
Its the job of the reffs to stop dirty play and its the job of the ncaa to make sure the reffs are doing their job.
The system of independent contractors for refferees doesn't work.
Because there are no consequences for their performance or lack of.
I don't believe there is a conspiracy, its far to disorganized for that.
You have the same few reffs jumping all over the country and no one wants to put the time and money in to supervise them because ultimately the fans are going to watch no matter what and the product doesn't really matter to the people in charge.
Professional leagues are highly supervised because the product on the court does effect the bottom line. Specifically people want to see offense not grabbing and pushing.
Fans of college teams are more loyal.
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