Why isn't there Muslim guilt?

[MichiganManLifer]

As a white man in America, I am subjected to being expected to feel guilty for race relations, black people failure (individually), toothless rednecks shouting racial slurs, etc. I'm told I have white privilege even though to get where I am, I have out worked almost any minority in this country?

Why do we not ask Muslims to speak up more and do they feel a real guilt over people from their religion killing innocents? Is this just another double standard against white people?

 

[cigaretteman]

As a white man in America, I am subjected to being expected to feel guilty for race relations, black people failure (individually), toothless rednecks shouting racial slurs, etc. I'm told I have white privilege even though to get where I am, I have out worked almost any minority in this country?

Why do we not ask Muslims to speak up more and do they feel a real guilt over people from their religion killing innocents? Is this just another double standard against white people?

They have and do.

 

[naturalmwa]

Do you feel guilty?

 

[MichiganManLifer]

They have and do.

When they speak up it is to criticize us as racists for not rolling out the welcome mat for thousands of people that should just be taken care of that also dislike most things about us and our religion and culture. Can you show me some mainstream, denunciation that does not also suggest our meddling as a root cause?

 

[moral_victory]

, I am subjected to being expected to feel guilty for race relations, black people failure (individually), toothless rednecks shouting racial slurs, etc. I'm told I have white privilege even though to get where I am

How and where are you subjegated? Any examples? Somehow I manage to go through life without anyone trying to make me feel bad for being a white male.

 

[MichiganManLifer]

Do you feel guilty?

No, but I have people coming on the news all the time, telling me I should feel guilty.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

They are leftist they have no use for guilt because they can do no wrong

 

[moral_victory]

No, but I have people coming on the news all the time, telling me I should feel guilty.

What news do you watch? I don't have cable so I need to know where to obtain my white guiltings.

 

[The Tradition]

What news do you watch? I don't have cable so I need to know where to obtain my white guiltings.

OWN

 

[strummingram]

No, but I have people coming on the news all the time, telling me I should feel guilty.

Stop watching the "news." You'd be amazed at how much more of a fulfilling life you'll have.

 

[MichiganManLifer]

How and where are you subjegated? Any examples? Somehow I manage to go through life without anyone trying to make me feel bad for being a white male.

Here's an example. My state has suggested they will not accept refugees from Syria, because of course it is not a safe or reasonable idea. We also have more muslims than most states and we see how that will work out...and the ones we have are somewhat moderate.

All over social media you have people saying shame on states like mine that actually want to do investigating on the process before allowing potential killers in our state with a gun to our head.

Let's hear some good examples of muslims speaking out (clearly and vocally) about MUSLIM terrorists.

 

[pablow]

How and where are you subjegated? Any examples? Somehow I manage to go through life without anyone trying to make me feel bad for being a white male.

You got a bad case of White Privilege. You need to start feeling bad.

 

[ThorneStockton]

The Not in My Name campaign, first news article on google:

http://abc7.com/society/muslims-speak-out-against-isis-following-paris-terror-attacks/1086310/

 

[naturalmwa]

No, but I have people coming on the news all the time, telling me I should feel guilty.

Why don't you feel guilty? Do you think you should feel guilty? Is it legit that people should expect you to feel guilty? I assume the answer is no, but here you are expecting that reaction from others who are similarly not guilty of offence. How do you see yourself as different from these muslims in your right to be guilt free?

 

[MichiganManLifer]

OWN

He didn't own anything. You're a damn fool with nothing to add other than jumping to the whims of some other internet guy. Think for yourself and note that he hasn't answered my follow up question asking for examples.

 

[MichiganManLifer]

Why don't you feel guilty? Do you think you should feel guilty? Is it legit that people should expect you to feel guilty? I assume the answer is no, but here you are expecting that reaction from others who are similarly not guilty of offence. How do you see yourself as different from these muslims in your right to be guilt free?

I'm different because I'm not brainwashed by some religion that thinks it's ok to kill civilians and terrorize others, all while looking to treat our women like a jiz rag at an orgy. Do you support that life style? Would you like more reasons?

 

[moral_victory]

all while looking to treat our women like a jiz rag at an orgy. Do you support that life style? Would you like more reasons?

I like me some subs.

 

[naturalmwa]

I'm different because I'm not brainwashed by some religion that thinks it's ok to kill civilians and terrorize others, all while looking to treat our women like a jiz rag at an orgy. Do you support that life style? Would you like more reasons?

Sure, I'll take any reasons you got. Are you not Christian? I imagine the Muslims who don't support terrorists think they too are free of brainwashing. So you both may have that belief in common.

 

[MichiganManLifer]

Sure, I'll take any reasons you got. Are you not Christian? I imagine the Muslims who don't support terrorists think they too are free of brainwashing. So you both may have that belief in common.

From college admission, to scholarships, to portrayal in the media, white men are treated worse than any other demographic out there. There are concrete things like admissions and advancement that are all race based and favor any other group over white males, but there are also societal portrayals which reflect an increasingly hostile anti-white male dialogue in our society. From bumbling, no dance skill, socially awkward portrayals constantly put forth by the media, to even such things as home security commercials which ALWAYS show a white male breaking in a house committing a crime (which statistics show is untrue). It is amazing how openly derided, denigrated, and ridiculed white males are in our society.

Back to Muslims. How do the ones that are "Free of brainwashing" treat women? How about gays? How about non Muslims? Did anyone answer my question about my state being bashed for using common sense? Does everybody here agree that we should not take refugees?

 

[MichiganManLifer]

They have and do.

You like a lot of posts here, care to answer some of my questions? Maybe we could hear your opinion instead of just saying "Yeah...what he said!"

 

[naturalmwa]

From college admission, to scholarships, to portrayal in the media, white men are treated worse than any other demographic out there. There are concrete things like admissions and advancement that are all race based and favor any other group over white males, but there are also societal portrayals which reflect an increasingly hostile anti-white male dialogue in our society. From bumbling, no dance skill, socially awkward portrayals constantly put forth by the media, to even such things as home security commercials which ALWAYS show a white male breaking in a house committing a crime (which statistics show is untrue). It is amazing how openly derided, denigrated, and ridiculed white males are in our society.

Back to Muslims. How do the ones that are "Free of brainwashing" treat women? How about gays? How about non Muslims? Did anyone answer my question about my state being bashed for using common sense? Does everybody here agree that we should not take refugees?

Let me be clear about my position. Islam is a bad theology. It supports all sorts of things I detest. Many Muslims reject those parts of the religion and treat gays and women and non muslims just fine. Its the devout religious people you have to watch out for. Devout Christians or Jews or Hindus are a big problem too, fortunately there seems to be fewer of those. I'm always appreciative when people decide to reject parts of their religion. I think nothing but good will come of that.

But you still have a problem. You recognize you're not to blame for breaking into houses, so you don't apologize when a white guy does this. You don't identify with that white male and you don't feel the need to reassure the world you are not like him. Why do you not allow the sane Muslim the same freedom to not associate himself with the terrorist?

 

[KitingHigh]

He didn't own anything. You're a damn fool with nothing to add other than jumping to the whims of some other internet guy. Think for yourself and note that he hasn't answered my follow up question asking for examples.

OWN = Oprah Winphrey(sp) Network

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

No, but I have people coming on the news all the time, telling me I should feel guilty.

Yes but fox news really isn't!

 

[MichiganManLifer]

Let me be clear about my position. Islam is a bad theology. It supports all sorts of things I detest. Many Muslims reject those parts of the religion and treat gays and women and non muslims just fine. Its the devout religious people you have to watch out for. Devout Christians or Jews or Hindus are a big problem too, fortunately there seems to be fewer of those. I'm always appreciative when people decide to reject parts of their religion. I think nothing but good will come of that.

But you still have a problem. You recognize you're not to blame for breaking into houses, so you don't apologize when a white guy does this. You don't identify with that white male and you don't feel the need to reassure the world you are not like him. Why do you not allow the sane Muslim the same freedom to not associate himself with the terrorist?

Because they don't renounce their religion, nor can they reclaim it as "peaceful" (which i doubt it is, but whatever). If nutcase men decided to regulary kill innocents around the world in the name of being Christian, then tried to make this country into their style of "Christianity", I'd be fighting them in the streets. Guns, knives, whatever I could get my hands on. I WOULDN"T be looking at other countries that have been terrorized and demand they treat my joke of a religion with respect. I don't respect Islam because it doesn't deserve to be respected.

 

[MichiganManLifer]

Let me be clear about my position. Islam is a bad theology. It supports all sorts of things I detest. Many Muslims reject those parts of the religion and treat gays and women and non muslims just fine. Its the devout religious people you have to watch out for. Devout Christians or Jews or Hindus are a big problem too, fortunately there seems to be fewer of those. I'm always appreciative when people decide to reject parts of their religion. I think nothing but good will come of that.

But you still have a problem. You recognize you're not to blame for breaking into houses, so you don't apologize when a white guy does this. You don't identify with that white male and you don't feel the need to reassure the world you are not like him. Why do you not allow the sane Muslim the same freedom to not associate himself with the terrorist?

Oh my GOD somebody actually admitted it's a terrible, terrible religion. You have more respect from me going forward.

 

[naturalmwa]

Because they don't renounce their religion, nor can they reclaim it as "peaceful" (which i doubt it is, but whatever). If nutcase men decided to regulary kill innocents around the world in the name of being Christian, then tried to make this country into their style of "Christianity", I'd be fighting them in the streets. Guns, knives, whatever I could get my hands on. I WOULDN"T be looking at other countries that have been terrorized and demand they treat my joke of a religion with respect. I don't respect Islam because it doesn't deserve to be respected.

1) You don't reject white males, so you are just like these quiet muslims.
2) The quiet muslims often do reject their religion, just like most every Christian does by simply not following all the rules.
3) I agree, religion is crazy.

 

[Huey Grey]

As a white man in America, I am subjected to being expected to feel guilty for race relations, black people failure (individually), toothless rednecks shouting racial slurs, etc. I'm told I have white privilege even though to get where I am, I have out worked almost any minority in this country?

Why do we not ask Muslims to speak up more and do they feel a real guilt over people from their religion killing innocents? Is this just another double standard against white people?

Considering how much you post on here, I have a hard time believing this.

 

[artradley]

No, but I have people coming on the news all the time, telling me I should feel guilty.

There are Muslims who do feel guilty and express remorse. The ones who don't, basically are their version of you.

 

[pablow]

. . .

You recognize you're not to blame for breaking into houses, so you don't apologize when a white guy does this. You don't identify with that white male and you don't feel the need to reassure the world you are not like him. Why do you not allow the sane Muslim the same freedom to not associate himself with the terrorist?

When Yusuf Islam [Cat "Peace Train" Stevens] called for the murder of Salman Rushdie [and later lied about it], I questioned the existence of these so-called moderate Muslims. When I saw videos [quickly yanked from the internet] of world wide Muslim celebrations after 9/11, I gave up.

As far as I'm concerned the ball's in their court - IMO reform or accept the consequences.

 

[mstp1992]

No, but I have people coming on the news all the time, telling me I should feel guilty.

Who?

 

[Vroom_C14]

How and where are you subjegated? Any examples? Somehow I manage to go through life without anyone trying to make me feel bad for being a white male.

Is there a Rooney Rule for white males?

 

[naturalmwa]

When Yusuf Islam [Cat "Peace Train" Stevens] called for the murder of Salman Rushdie [and later lied about it], I questioned the existence of these so-called moderate Muslims. When I saw videos [quickly yanked from the internet] of world wide Muslim celebrations after 9/11, I gave up.

As far as I'm concerned the ball's in their court - IMO reform or accept the consequences.

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If you feel its OK to lump all Muslims together and treat them all like the worst members of the team, don't get upset when the same is done to some group you identify with.

 

[mstp1992]

When Yusuf Islam [Cat "Peace Train" Stevens] called for the murder of Salman Rushdie [and later lied about it], I questioned the existence of these so-called moderate Muslims. When I saw videos [quickly yanked from the internet] of world wide Muslim celebrations after 9/11, I gave up.

As far as I'm concerned the ball's in their court - IMO reform or accept the consequences.

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Pretty narrow world view you have.

 

[lucas80]

As a white man in America, I am subjected to being expected to feel guilty for race relations, black people failure (individually), toothless rednecks shouting racial slurs, etc. I'm told I have white privilege even though to get where I am, I have out worked almost any minority in this country?

Why do we not ask Muslims to speak up more and do they feel a real guilt over people from their religion killing innocents? Is this just another double standard against white people?

Spend more time researching and less time being misinformed on the Internet. There are plenty of examples of Muslims expressing outrage over these attacks. A large number of victims in Paris were Muslim.
I suspect you choose to be uninformed.

 

[pablow]

If you feel its OK to lump all Muslims together and treat them all like the worst members of the team, don't get upset when the same is done to some group you identify with.

It's not my burden to be an apologist for Muslims. They have a well diserved PR problem and they can deal with it themselves.

BTW I have never been violent, advocated violence, or belonged to a group that did. Don't worry about me.

 

[Huey Grey]

It's not my burden to be an apologist for Muslims. They have a well diserved PR problem and they can deal with it themselves.

BTW I have never been violent, advocated violence, or belonged to a group that did. Don't worry about me.

Neither have most Muslims.

 

[mstp1992]

Spend more time researching and less time being misinformed on the Internet. There are plenty of examples of Muslims expressing outrage over these attacks. A large number of victims in Paris were Muslim.
I suspect you choose to be uninformed.

To your point...

Independent.co.uk

QZ.com

Washingtonpost.com

Time.com

 

[naturalmwa]

It's not my burden to be an apologist for Muslims. They have a well diserved PR problem and they can deal with it themselves.

BTW I have never been violent, advocated violence, or belonged to a group that did. Don't worry about me.

I think the main point I'm trying to make is no one needs to apologize if they didn't do anything wrong. The OP understands that logic when it comes to groups he self identifies with. I suggest groups we don't identify with get the same freedom.

 

[markfromj]

Why do we not ask Muslims to speak up more?

Well, let's start with you. Do you ask this of Muslims? Or, is this another thing that "someone" should do?

 

[MichiganManLifer]

Neither have most Muslims.

Most?!?! But I thought you said NO terrorist have acted in the name of Islam...? But go ahead, don't ask questions and put all of our loved ones at risk and bring over a few hundred thousand of these wonderful guys.

Do you care about America at all and if so can you guarantee that no Americans will be killed by any of the potential refugees that you so desperately want to come here?