Why wasn't it Johns?
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yeah Brian worked out great. Don't understand why folks would second guess Ferentz.
He doesn't want to win anything of significance, that is clear. One third of the "Complimentary" is not allowed to excel. He wants to grind his way to pass Hayes and that's about it.
Definitely no, but the clock is ticking on a 48 year old that wants to be a head coach. I could see Kirk not want to go through this process again in a year if he senses that Johns might bail for greener grass.
We don’t doubt Kirk wants to win. He wants to win his way.
If they get 7-8 wins, that’s good enough.
When they lose it’s only because they didn’t execute his way.
maybe the fan base is pissed because the offense was historically shitty. It wasn't just bad. It was national punch line bad. It was so bad most people wouldn't even believe a P5 school could be that bad bad. An embarrassment.
The head guy was so obtuse about it that an interim AD had to step in.
Then when he finally had a chance do something about it...he hires a MAC cast off with an average resume. A guy with Troy as leverage.
How is it hard to understand why fans are pissed?
The head guy was so obtuse about it that an interim AD had to step in.
Then when he finally had a chance do something about it...he hires a MAC cast off with an average resume. A guy with Troy as leverage.
How is it hard to understand why fans are pissed?
Considering the choices we were left with, I think he was the most popular. Not many liked the one that ended up getting the job.
I think most were excited about Johns as OC, at the very least in comparison to Lester.
I didn't see it coming. I thought people were actually joking about Lester becoming OC.
I'm not sure if he'll be the best hire as OC. He does seem like a step up as a QB coach. Hopefully, that will show up in the freshman QB recruits in the future. I try to be positive and hope that there'll be play calling improvements too!!
Why are people assuming Kirk offered the job to Johns? I've interviewed numerous people to whom I never offered the job. The only thing close to reliable information regarding candidates who declined an offer concerns Paul Chryst. There's a good chance that only two offers were made: one to Chryst and one to Lester.
Because Lester has no business being a P5 OC.
i’ve made a 180 turn. the more i learn about this lester fella the more it appears that kf might well have made the right choice. hope phil and levar maintain their units coz offense hopefully won’t be a weak link this fall.
This should just be the standard answer to why Iowa fans are mad about the hire. Absolutely nailed it. Nice work.
What makes you think Johns would bail? He was at IU for 6 seasons. I think this idea has been floated out as a little red herring to get people to take their eyes off what's truly happening.
Lots of posters on this board were unimpressed.
I thought he would have been a good fit.
Lester was obviously the best candidate for the job. I am willing to give him a shot. Next year Lester of whoever Kirk chooses has to have a top 80 offense. Scoring or yards.
Shouldn't be that hard since Brian and Kirk recruited everyone on this offense and barely anyone left the team.
Shouldn't be that hard since Brian and Kirk recruited everyone on this offense and barely anyone left the team.
Because he might want to be a head coach. He's been an assistant for a while and not getting younger.
Hearing through the grapevine that BF's opinion was sought concerning which of the the two candidates would be a better fit, and he gave his support to hiring Lester.
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Except for one year as a DC, he's either been on OC or HC. That seems pretty close
I would not read anymore into that, then into why he is not here at Iowa. Maybe when they moved on, he didn't go, because he wanted to bring his old staff with him, or didn't, and when moving up career wise, the HC did not like that idea. Could be the same reason why he is not here. Maybe KF said "you pretty much get to pick your wr coach, but we have the other position coaching jobs filled". Probably why KF said that it was about how the person fit with the other coaches (and players). Because we do have a solid TE room and rb room and no one of wanted those guys gone. KF is set on Barnett. As fans, we may not like it, but the players respect him and I guess he is a pretty good coach, even if somehow that is not making it to the field. So really a new OC has no say over RB, TE or OL coach. Plus who knows they might have even said and we are keeping this guy around to help with qb's. Now idk, but I might be a little concerned with this. I mean what if you as an OC have no control really over who most of your staff is? Hard to pass or run the ball if your OL sucks. But you can't bring in your own coach for the OL. Fact all you will ever be able to do is bring it up to KF at the end of the season when things are being evaluated. He might listen, he might not. So now with your name on the offense and what you are putting on the field on your resume, you have no real control over who coaches under you. A smart man would see that the TE and RB room is solid, but the rest of that side of the ball has not looked good for several years now. So what do you do as a potential OC hire???
at wmu he produced extremely high powered offenses 5 years in a row. the numbers are insanely good and the work is recent. certainly the sixth year offense was bf-esque and he got canned -- but even the best coaches produce a shitty year occasionally, by no means indicates incompetence.
at syracuse he got fired along with the hc after a poor w-l record but lester had actually improved the offense from 122 to 77 (45 spots) that year. this improvement is precisely what we are looking to accomplish at iowa.
Could be right, but maybe Beth set a wage allowance on the position and was not to his liking and he turned the position down.
I appreciate your perspective. I went back and looked at the stats from 2017-2022 and you are correct 2022 was not a good year but the other 5 were. My opinion is that Johns looked better choice as the OC/WR and was hoping that Lester would be hired as the QB coach. I see that Lester has been added as a coach and it lists OC but not QB or WR added. It is my hope the Budmary is not the WR guy.
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