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Wild stat ... RE: Iowa's 2017 schedule

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Of Iowa's '17 regular season foes, 8 of them were in the top 30 in terms of scoring D. This lends further credibility to Brian's comment about how much Stanley had seen (in terms of different Ds) this season. It's one thing to face opposing Ds that feature extreme schematic differences ... it's quite another thing when those Ds are also good at keeping the opposition out of the end zone.

Lots of good off-season tape to learn from, I'm sure. Anyhow, I think that we all knew that Iowa faced a pretty challenging schedule this year ... but it was all the more impressive when you consider that a new O, with a new QB had to face off against so many talented Ds. I'll be curious to see the sorts of improvements that O might make moving forward.

Other thoughts?
 
I wasn't aware of this one. We could have a dangerous offense next year if our OL hits stride and our QB, WRs and TEs make the expected improvement for players their age and experience level. The OL is the big question for the offense, imo.
 
I wasn't aware of this one. We could have a dangerous offense next year if our OL hits stride and our QB, WRs and TEs make the expected improvement for players their age and experience level. The OL is the big question for the offense, imo.
The question about the OL will largely be a function of HEALTH (arguably the top issue) and the continued development of Polasek as a position coach. Given that Polasek was able to get respectable play out of starting FR OTs ... AND given his demonstrated football intellect (as evidenced by his stint as an OC) ... I think that it is a safe bet to expect continued improvement by Polasek. Furthermore, given a season worth of tape to parse through and a long off-season to contemplate things ... I think that the offensive staff likely will continue to grow together too.

To me, I think that two of the bigger questions for the O next year will be ...
  • How will our pass-catchers improve in terms of consistency? ISM demonstrated flashes of brilliance ... but there were a good many critical near misses too. Perhaps surprisingly, there were a number of near misses with Noah Fant too ... he's crazily close to being a 600+ yard TE with around 12 TDs (his numbers, as they stand, are darn impressive for a SO TE anyhow). Also, given VandeBerg's graduation ... who will step up? How many competent WRs will man the WR spot for the Hawks?
  • How much more responsibility will Stanley get to take on now that he has a full season of starts to build upon? How will the experience translate to production?
 
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The question about the OL will largely be a function of HEALTH (arguably the top issue) and the continued development of Polasek as a position coach. Given that Polasek was able to get respectable play out of starting FR OTs ... AND given his demonstrated football intellect (as evidenced by his stint as an OC) ... I think that it is a safe bet to expect continued improvement by Polasek. Furthermore, given a season worth of tape to parse through and a long off-season to contemplate things ... I think that the offensive staff likely will continue to grow together too.

To me, I think that two of the bigger questions for the O next year will be ...
  • How will our pass-catchers improve in terms of consistency? ISM demonstrated flashes of brilliance ... but there were a good many critical near misses too. Perhaps surprisingly, there were a number of near misses with Noah Fant too ... he's crazily close to being a 600+ yard TE with around 12 TDs (his numbers, as they stand, are darn impressive for a SO TE anyhow). Also, given VandeBerg's graduation ... who will step up? How many competent WRs will man the WR spot for the Hawks?
  • How much more responsibility will Stanley get to take on now that he has a full season of starts to build upon? How will the experience translate to production?
That's all fair, but the offensive line has a long way to go, especially losing Welsh, and Idk where the depth will be next season. And nothing works if we don't block. Especially since the strategy against us has been to blitz heavily.
 
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The best thing about freshman offensive tackles is that they become sophomore offensive tackles.

Coaches are obviously very high on ISM, so that would be the hopeful breakout.

IKM/Toren seems like a nice start at RB.

Stanley could be really good.

Looking forward to next season.
 
You should also consider it wasn't just BF & Polasek that were new position coaches. You also have Campbell (WR) & Okeefe (QB). I'm assuming we are learning how each other operates. WR needs to focus on catching the dang ball. Line up Stanley with the WRs, have him rifle 90MPH fastball throws to the WRs over & over until they don't drop it & get used to the velocity.

Brian will probably see the most benefit for bowl prep & off season. He's very bright. I expect him to learn from this last year. To have a much wider variety of plays to try. To pay attention & learn what counters certain defenses & what they are doing. I'm also hoping to add to that with more flexibility with Stanley & audibles. Maybe wishful thinking on the last bit, but still. I can see us improving leaps & bounds from this years experiences. We should get our first look for some of those improvements in the bowl game. With several weeks to prepare, I'm hoping our offense comes out on fire & with new wrinkles.
 
You should also consider it wasn't just BF & Polasek that were new position coaches. You also have Campbell (WR) & Okeefe (QB). I'm assuming we are learning how each other operates. WR needs to focus on catching the dang ball. Line up Stanley with the WRs, have him rifle 90MPH fastball throws to the WRs over & over until they don't drop it & get used to the velocity.

Brian will probably see the most benefit for bowl prep & off season. He's very bright. I expect him to learn from this last year. To have a much wider variety of plays to try. To pay attention & learn what counters certain defenses & what they are doing. I'm also hoping to add to that with more flexibility with Stanley & audibles. Maybe wishful thinking on the last bit, but still. I can see us improving leaps & bounds from this years experiences. We should get our first look for some of those improvements in the bowl game. With several weeks to prepare, I'm hoping our offense comes out on fire & with new wrinkles.
Brian is quite bright - but so are some of the coordinators he's going up against. I know that it infuriates many folks on this board, but it is true that Brian is learning on the job. However, the truth is that ANYBODY who is good at their job will always CONTINUE to learn while on the job.

While sometimes Brian and Co would devise good game-plans against our opponents ... and sometimes that was to fun outcomes (OSU and Nebraska games) ... other times the good game-plans were spoiled by poor execution. However, in the game of cat and mouse against Wisconsin ... Brian and the Hawks were most certainly the mouse ... and I believe we had gotten eaten, tail and all. Like Brian, Leonhard is a young coach who is exceedingly bright. Brian was obviously out-dueled in the match-up ... however, I'd also argue that Leonhard was working with a better deck.

What may help Brian's cause ... as he continues to improve (and as the whole offensive staff improves) ... is that once the Iowa O has something more tangible to hang their collective hats upon (like a consistent passing game or a consistent rushing game) ... that will give him a better chance to out-duel his competitors.

What will be the strength of the O next year? What will be reliable and help power the O next year?
 
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Brian is quite bright - but so are some of the coordinators he's going up against. I know that it infuriates many folks on this board, but it is true that Brian is learning on the job. However, the truth is that ANYBODY who is good at their job will always CONTINUE to learn while on the job.

While sometimes Brian and Co would devise good game-plans against our opponents ... and sometimes that was to fun outcomes (OSU and Nebraska games) ... other times the good game-plans were spoiled by poor execution. However, in the game of cat and mouse against Wisconsin ... Brian and the Hawks were most certainly the mouse ... and I believe we had gotten eaten, tail and all. Like Brian, Leonhard is a young coach who is exceedingly bright. Brian was obviously out-dueled in the match-up ... however, I'd also argue that Leonhard was working with a better deck.

What may help Brian's cause ... as he continues to improve (and as the whole offensive staff improves) ... is that once the Iowa O has something more tangible to hang their collective hats upon (like a consistent passing game or a consistent rushing game) ... that will give him a better chance to out-duel his competitors.

What will be the strength of the O next year? What will be reliable and help power the O next year?


I expect us to reach a level of offensive output similar to the 2015 team. The talent will be there at the skilled positions. Easely, ISM, Cooper, Smith, Young. If this group can cut their drops in half and improve on their ability to gets yards after the catch, I think they can be a competent and at times explosive group. Brandon smith developing as a red zone threat will hopefully help our struggles there. And Tyrone Tracy might be a player to watch.

At tightend, you would be hard pressed to find a more talented duo than Fant and Hock. Another year in the weight room and they could be a real tandom. Very similar to HKC and Kittle. However to reach their levels, they will need to become dominate blockers at the point of attack. Something Fant hasn’t really shown. While Hock has shown flashes. The running backs I think will really surprise. Ikm is our next all purpose super star. Really good hips and tremendous acceleration. He also does a great job of following his blocks. Very different runner from Wadley but similar quickness. I’m not as high on Toren because he doesn’t seem to have that ability to balance blockers like ikm. But he has shown an ability to find daylight on cutbacks and certainly doesn’t shy away from contact. I think toks, Bryan, and gill offer interesting possibilities at the positions. In whole, I expect a pretty productive year from them.

The O line will be above average to good. While Alaric and Wirfs will probably be one year away from all conference honors. The two are undeniably the most talented O lineman the hawks have had outside Scherff in the last 8 years. Especially Wirfs. I’ve went back and watched him maul defenders and exhibit surprising quickness. Alaric is gigantic and moves really well for his size. If they can eliminate their mental errors (both have been dinged for a number of false starts). I think they will both be stud tackles that Iowa can lean on next year. Not to mention Kallenberger and the one of the paulsens can provide some depth with their athleticism and size. Turning to the middle. Render, Daniels, and Reynolds will all he seniors and likely staters. Tobin has shot up the depth chart and one of the Paulsens will likely back them up. While render and Reynolds haven’t been spectacular this year. Render will be starting his 3rd year at gaurd and Reynolds will be a redshirt senior. Both with loads of experience and technical training.

Finally the crown jewel and the key to everything. Nate Stanley. I have been bragging to all my gopher friends about this kid for about 2 years so hopefully he pulls through for me. I think he has all the talent but lacks a touch of confidence at times. While, at others, he looks like a seasoned vet and sure fire future nfl draft pick. He has the arm talent and the brains. He really just needs the confidence. And confidence comes with having been there. I think he will throw more touchdowns and for more yards next year and perhaps even more picks. But I can live with a couple more picks if he’s willing to throw a couple more 50/50 60/40 balls to our more talented players. Other than that; he has demonstrated he can throw lasers for first downs, he is starting to connect on deep passes, and he throws the 20 yard out route beautifully.

Brian and Ken have a lot of possibilities about how to attack teams, I really hope we work in more power concepts with the size of our olinemen. Our season will come down to Wisco at home to open the big ten. Win that and the schedule sets up for a West title with NW and NE coming to town.

Defense looks real promising too if Jackson comes back. Dline has depth and will get bolstered by linderbaum, shannon, and hopefully Nixon. Linebackers have been groomed for a number of years, just need to play fast and use their athleticism. Secondary will Be uber talented at safety with Snyder, Hooker, and Stone. Corner hasn’t been a concern for Iowa in sometime. I don’t expect that to change next year with pass rush that will be applied. Gholston needs to take a leap to be our third pass rusher. I’d like to see Hesse and maybe Anthony Nelson rush inside and let eppy and gholston take the edge in passing situations.

In short :) We go as far as Stanley and the lines take us.
 
Somewhat OT but since we are talking about the O (that went 3 and out at a record setting clip) and 2017: Iowa needs to look for a reliable punter with a big leg -- this could make a big difference when we run into top Ds.
 
What will be the strength of the O next year? What will be reliable and help power the O next year?

I believe we will be a balanced offense. The strength if I were to lean a direction is going to be our passing game. With the experience Nathan Stanley has gained there, along with the collection of WRs & TE. I believe we will be able to hit the ground running against Northern Illinois from game 1. ISM, Smith, Cooper & Easley while at times have been inconsistent, or only on special teams. All have gained very valuable playing time experiences this year.

Not to overshadow the running game, because it will also be a strength. We will have a good 2 headed duo, and maybe even a 3rd option if one of the younger backs works into the rotation. You could see during the North Texas, Ohio State & Nebraska games that Young & Ivory Kelly-Martin are going to leave our running game in good hands. From each getting 70ish yards vs NT or scoring TDs against OSU/Neb. We will have power & explosion. Much like Daniels/Wadley 2 years ago. With a healthy steady rotation, both backs should get a regular dose of carries. This year we struggled offensively when only Wadley was the main running back option.

Our concern will be the OL, specifically the interior at Guard as we lose Welsh. Reynolds & Render have filled in there pretty admirably when needed on the opposite side or when welsh has been injured, but definitely not flawless. Combine that the OTs are still younger, but gaining experience rapidly. If we can work as a unit early in the year & really pick up blitzes better (see purdue game) we might surprise even more on the offense than most people would predict. It also helps that we will have James Daniels back, having the Center line caller will be a big deal for everyone, as he has a ton of experience.

Just an FYI while looking at the depth chart. I believe we might surprise a lot of people next year. We don't lose a ton. What we do lose, it appears we will reload. We lose LG Sean Welsh, RBs Wadley & Butler, WR Matt Vandenberg, FB Drake Kulick, TE Petar Pekkar.
 
Somewhat OT but since we are talking about the O (that went 3 and out at a record setting clip) and 2017: Iowa needs to look for a reliable punter with a big leg -- this could make a big difference when we run into top Ds.
Agree on the punter comment. Rastetter was plain bad the last few games.
 
You should also consider it wasn't just BF & Polasek that were new position coaches. You also have Campbell (WR) & Okeefe (QB). I'm assuming we are learning how each other operates. WR needs to focus on catching the dang ball. Line up Stanley with the WRs, have him rifle 90MPH fastball throws to the WRs over & over until they don't drop it & get used to the velocity.

Brian will probably see the most benefit for bowl prep & off season. He's very bright. I expect him to learn from this last year. To have a much wider variety of plays to try. To pay attention & learn what counters certain defenses & what they are doing. I'm also hoping to add to that with more flexibility with Stanley & audibles. Maybe wishful thinking on the last bit, but still. I can see us improving leaps & bounds from this years experiences. We should get our first look for some of those improvements in the bowl game. With several weeks to prepare, I'm hoping our offense comes out on fire & with new wrinkles.
They ran two new wrinkles against Nebby that I hadn't seen all year. They ran a counter trey on the first TD, and they put Fant in the slot and ran toss sweep to his side a couple times. Both were effective.
 
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They ran two new wrinkles against Nebby that I hadn't seen all year. They ran a counter trey on the first TD, and they put Fant in the slot and ran toss sweep to his side a couple times. Both were effective.
And those were implemented, with apparent success, in a shorted week of prep!
 
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When we compare Ferentz's truly great years .... the '02, '09, and '15 seasons .... the most glaring contrast that the '15 season presents is that it featured the most inexperienced OL.

That group featured 3 RS SOs (Myers, Boettger, and Welsh), 2 veteran SRs on the interior (Blythe and Walsh), a wily RS JR, former walk-on OT who was our 6th or 7th man (Croston), and an emerging TR FR guy on the interior (Daniels). That OL even faced quite a bit of adversity ... but what helped the O to overcome the issues on the OL was experience and tenacity from the rest of the guys on the O.

First and foremost, we had a pretty good group of RBs ... who were truly LED by Canzeri. Of course, adversity really struck the RB group too ... so it was fortunate that we had 4 pretty good guys there. To complement those RBs, we had a pretty veteran and CONSISTENT group of pass-catchers .... Tevaun Smith, Hillyer, VandeBerg, Krieger-Coble, and Kittle ... a solid group that really kept Ds more honest and helped open things up for the RBs.

Lastly, we had some of the biggest leaders of the O ... demonstrating toughness, togetherness, and sacrifice ... and there I'm talking about our FBs and QB ... Plewa, Cox, and Beathard. I really don't believe it was lip service when Ferentz said how the FBs set the tone for the O. Obviously, playing through injury ... Beathard truly earned the respect of his fellow players ... and, more importantly, he really helped LEAD.

When you look at the trend on Iowa's OL ... almost every year we seemingly have a story of an underclassman who "emerged." Who might that "story" be in '18? The OL will have 3 SRs on the interior in Reynolds, Render, and Daniels ... will they play to the level that Hawk SRs usually play? How much will Wirfs and Jackson elevate their respective games?

I do believe that the Hawks look much better on the OL than we did in '15 ... but getting consistency from our pass-catchers will be paramount for us to make opposing Ds pay for opting to aggressively pressure the QB.

Also, concerning the comments about the punting ... I agree wholeheartedly ... our punting game in '17 has definitely proven to be lamentable ... we need improvement there ... and we need it fast!
 
It's interesting that in the BF thread the ranking of 106 total offense for this year (vs 121 for last year) would likely be higher if the schedule hadn't been so tough.

I guess it makes the 69 in scoring offense stat more impressive as well.
 
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....featured the most inexperienced OL.

That OL even faced quite a bit of adversity ... but what helped the O to overcome the issues on the OL was experience and tenacity from the rest of the guys on the O.

First... good group of RBs ... Willing to pick up blitzes.

Second...CONSISTENT group of pass-catchers .... Tevaun Smith was a legit deep threat, preventing teams from stacking the box or blitzes.

Lastly, we had big leaders ... demonstrating toughness, FBs and QB ... Plewa, Cox, and Beathard. CJ had a couple hundred rushing yards, helping sustain drives picking up key 1st downs & avoiding sacks at times. His last year he was statue.

When you look at the trend on Iowa's OL ... almost every year we seemingly have a story of an underclassman who "emerged." Who might that "story" be in '18? Rooting for the Paulsen twins, both should be in the program 3 years now.

The OL will have 3 SRs on the interior in Reynolds, Render, and Daniels ... will they play to the level that Hawk SRs usually play? Hope so, but verdict is still out here.

How much will Wirfs and Jackson elevate their respective games? Much like the WRs, should be vastly improved. They will gain strength and awareness.
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Will Stanley gain superior pocket presence? Will he learn when to tuck and run? Will he develope touch on his passes?
 
First... good group of RBs ... Willing to pick up blitzes.


Absolutely, the size and physicality of the new RBs, in some respects supplies an upgrade from Akrum. Akrum developed the willingness eventually .... but his effectiveness in pass-pro was certainly limited.


Second...CONSISTENT group of pass-catchers .... Tevaun Smith was a legit deep threat, preventing teams from stacking the box or blitzes.
Ihmir has the most receptions and targets as a TR FR since Douglas in '06. Should he continue to improve, by spreading the field vertically ... his impact could be felt next year even when he's not having balls thrown his way. Of course, for the impact to be felt ... it needs to connect with success a little more regularly.

Easley can certainly continue to build off of what he had done as a JR. All the young man does is produce!

However, should our WR corps even mimic the '15 group ... the implication is that we still need more guys to step up (2 guys being able to step in and contribute at a pretty high level would be ideal).


Lastly, we had big leaders ... demonstrating toughness, FBs and QB ... Plewa, Cox, and Beathard. CJ had a couple hundred rushing yards, helping sustain drives picking up key 1st downs & avoiding sacks at times. His last year he was statue.
Most of CJ's yardage was gained up to and including the Pitt game. After that, the groin issue kicked in and his mobility was far more limited.

However, the spirit of your point is definitely "on point." If a QB can get yards with his feet when plays break down ... then it makes it a lot easier to convert even when you're not "on schedule" in terms of down and distance.

My impression here is that O'Keefe was trying to keep Stanley's plate manageable. The first order of business was that our passing game was abhorrent in '16 ... thus we needed to remedy that malady. 25 passing TDs later ... and a season of tape as a starter to learn from ... Stanley is now in position to both further DEVELOP his craft, while simultaneously HONING his craft. In his second season as a starter, I'm expecting that the game could "slow down" for him ... as it does for many players. Consequently, my guess is that O'Keefe and Brian will exploit this "slow down" effect by putting a little more responsibility on Stanley's plate.

Part of this will likely involve expanding how much Stanley can change things from the line, based on what he sees (pre-snap). Secondly, combining pre-snap and post-snap recognitions ... he might get a better idea of where things might open up for him (in terms of scrambling). This threat can put a lot more pressure on the LBs ... and open up the intermediate passing game more (especially when he breaks out of the pocket).

When you look at the trend on Iowa's OL ... almost every year we seemingly have a story of an underclassman who "emerged." Who might that "story" be in '18? Rooting for the Paulsen twins, both should be in the program 3 years now.
My vote is with Kallenberger. Kid is athletic for his size ... seems to have a great mean-streak too.

Also, although they're not "young," I wouldn't sleep on Ferguson or LeGrand as contributors either. Both suffered injuries and could work themselves legitimately into contributing positions should they continue to develop.

The OL will have 3 SRs on the interior in Reynolds, Render, and Daniels ... will they play to the level that Hawk SRs usually play? Hope so, but verdict is still out here.
Why? Both Render and Reynolds have played a ton. They have been rotating ... and part of that was in an attempt to develop depth. Render saw a wealth of snaps as a starter in '16 too.

Will Stanley gain superior pocket presence? Will he learn when to tuck and run? Will he develope touch on his passes?
As I've already alluded, I think that many facets of Stanley's game will invariably improve. However, the fact that he gets to work exclusively as the #1 in bowl-prep, spring camp, during the summer, and summer/fall camp will really improve the timing and chemistry that he has with the top WRs.
 
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One guy/group that isn't being discussed,though vary important, would be Brady Ross and the fullback. Kulick is the man. We are going to need to find the guy that brings that intensity in the clubhouse. Brady Ross seems to be a bad animal himself and one more year in the weight room isn't going to hurt any FB.
 
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