Will Trump win the Nobel Peace Prize for ending two wars?

[Finance85]

Finance, I am willing to talk and debate with the other side, unless it goes too far and there really is no debate occurring just insults. In this case fine I can understand completely cutting back on supporting any wars, if thats the case we better stop supporting Ukraine, Israel, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong. Let them burn, they are not our problem. If that is your base case, I can understand it. I don't agree with it but I understand it. There will be far reaching consequences if we suddenly step back. We claim Trump will figure all this out by being strong, while at the same time not getting involved with anything. If that is the case why will anyone take Trumps threats seriously? They will say he doesn't want to get involved we have free reign.

Please feel free to ignore me. You misrepresent what I say, my positions, and even lie about my party affiliation and the candidate I supported.

I don't know if Trump can end the war in Ukraine. It's unlikely, but not impossible. That said, I support the effort. Doing so is better than propping up the US MIC. I do find it interesting that Putin waited to attack until after Trump left office, while calling Trump unpredictable, and after Biden's remarks about a minor incursion.

Your remarks about other countries are disingenuous, especially Taiwan and Hong Kong.

 

[bunsen82]

Please feel free to ignore me. You misrepresent what I say, my positions, and even lie about my party affiliation and the candidate I supported.

I don't know if Trump can end the war in Ukraine. It's unlikely, but not impossible. That said, I support the effort. Doing so is better than propping up the US MIC. I do find it interesting that Putin waited to attack until after Trump left office, while calling Trump unpredictable, and after Biden's remarks about a minor incursion.

Your remarks about other countries are disingenuous, especially Taiwan and Hong Kong.

How is it disingenuous? Effectively you are picking winners and losers, shouldn't we have a consistent strategy, if the goal is not to be involved in world politics doesn't that sound reasonable? Putin didn't attack while Trump was in power because he wanted to get him re-elected again would be my guess. Even though he wasn't re-elected he still went through with his plan and thought Trump had done enough to hobble Nato is my guess. Putin was wrong.

As to your affiliation, I don't have the time to go back 2-3 years and search your original statement. If I misquoted fine. In either case you have stated even if your affiliation was wrong you had moderate tendancies. In either case it really doesn't matter much.

You effectively want to state because Biden was in power these things happened. So you are stating the president of the US was taken into the calculation of Hamas attacking Isreal (I find that disingenuous, they did not care who was in power this has been a fight going on decades) and Putin attacking Ukraine( I find this disingenuous as well because he did the same thing to get Crimea). Putin looks for any opportunities where he thinks it can benefit himself. In both cases Hamas/Iran and Russia immensely miscalculated. That Biden was president was merely coincidental. No different than Covid occurring during Trumps 1st Term. Are we really going to say Covid decided to pop up because it saw an opportunity during Trumps term? That is effectively the argument you are proposing.

 

[mro1978]

When Russia leaves Ukraine and Israel stops bombing Gaza because of Trump's magic diplomacy, will that be enough to garner him the coveted Nobel Peace Prize? People are talking about it.

should have won one for what he did with north korea

 

[seminole97]

Maybe we can quit treating Europe like they're our wards.

 

[seminole97]

https://kyivindependent.com/trump-ukraine-plan-wsj/

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

Considering he bombed the Middle East more than Bush and Obama combined, probably not OP.

 

[Scruddy]

Trump is going to end the Ukraine war in his first weeks. Putin has already stated that they have spoken and Russia is willing to end the conflict. Amazing W for team red.

 

[NoleATL]

When Russia leaves Ukraine and Israel stops bombing Gaza because of Trump's magic diplomacy, will that be enough to garner him the coveted Nobel Peace Prize? People are talking about it.

Well, he is very close (mere hours) to missing the first campaign promise on the timeline. Ending the Russia / Ukraine war only 24 hours after being ELECTED.

 

[Jerome Silberman]

He can have two if he actually does these things. I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Finance85]

How is it disingenuous? Effectively you are picking winners and losers, shouldn't we have a consistent strategy, if the goal is not to be involved in world politics doesn't that sound reasonable? Putin didn't attack while Trump was in power because he wanted to get him re-elected again would be my guess. Even though he wasn't re-elected he still went through with his plan and thought Trump had done enough to hobble Nato is my guess. Putin was wrong.

As to your affiliation, I don't have the time to go back 2-3 years and search your original statement. If I misquoted fine. In either case you have stated even if your affiliation was wrong you had moderate tendancies. In either case it really doesn't matter much.

You effectively want to state because Biden was in power these things happened. So you are stating the president of the US was taken into the calculation of Hamas attacking Isreal (I find that disingenuous, they did not care who was in power this has been a fight going on decades) and Putin attacking Ukraine( I find this disingenuous as well because he did the same thing to get Crimea). Putin looks for any opportunities where he thinks it can benefit himself. In both cases Hamas/Iran and Russia immensely miscalculated. That Biden was president was merely coincidental. No different than Covid occurring during Trumps 1st Term. Are we really going to say Covid decided to pop up because it saw an opportunity during Trumps term? That is effectively the argument you are proposing.

You clearly aren't a student of history. Do you have any idea why Japan doesn't have a military, or why the US has troops at the Korean DMZ? Do have any idea about the history of Hong Kong or the official US policy re: Taiwan?

Who was POTUS when Putin took Crimea? Who was POTUS when Putin invaded Ukraine? Coincidence? Really? Putin just decided to take a 5 year break?

You continue to guess and rephrase what I'm saying. You'd be better off simply taking what I say at face value. I know that's a difficult proposition because everything is binary for you.

 

[Huey Grey]

https://kyivindependent.com/trump-ukraine-plan-wsj/

Sounds like Trump is way over his head here.

 

[bunsen82]

You clearly aren't a student of history. Do you have any idea why Japan doesn't have a military, or why the US has troops at the Korean DMZ? Do have any idea about the history of Hong Kong or the official US policy re: Taiwan?

Who was POTUS when Putin took Crimea? Who was POTUS when Putin invaded Ukraine? Coincidence? Really? Putin just decided to take a 5 year break?

You continue to guess and rephrase what I'm saying. You'd be better off simply taking what I say at face value. I know that's a difficult proposition because everything is binary for you.

I know the history fairly well, you need to decide are we supporting other countries or not, if you want to screw old alliances or agreements, screw them who cares Trump is in power. No allegiance or alliance or agreement is sacred. Trump tried blowing up NATO his first term.

So you are saying Putin picks on other countries when democrats are in power, why do you think it is? Your implication is democrats are weak. In my opinion, he has a friendly relationship with republicans and Trump. It should have disqualified Trump. Russia was sending in bomb threats to urban voting centers you wonder why. That is completely impartial action by Russia and not by any means trying to impact the election, right? Get your head out of the sand. If you can prove Trump and republicans are not friendly with Putin and Russia I would consider agreeing with you, but for now you have to admit Putin actions show he prefers Trump and Republicans. Hell after the election says he wants a reset with US relations. Trump really has Putin scared LOL

I show you what your statements imply. That you don’t like it in that light is on you, it doesn’t change the facts,

 

[Hawkeye3378]

Is the war in Ukraine over yet? I believe we’ve hit 24 hours…

Is Trump your President yet?