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Wisky -8

that seems high, considering wisconsin will be without clement. they havent looked like world beaters yet.
 
Wisky's D won't be any more physical or sophisticated than Pitt showed against Iowa. I think most people are vastly underrating what Beathard and his offense did against that aggressive, ruthless Pitt defense. That experience puts Iowa in a great position to whup the Badgers, no matter what the Vegas line may end up being.
 
The vegas line doesn't mean squat to me. I will be elated if we win in Madison, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
 
Wow betters have got to be all over that. I'd be surprised to see the hawks win, I would've expected the to be -4ish.
 
Wisky's D won't be any more physical or sophisticated than Pitt showed against Iowa.....
While the only game I have seen Pitt play this year was against Iowa, I would disagree. Pitt seems more physical to me but I would observe Wisconsin's defensive is more sophisticated. In the WI/IA series, it usually boils down to strength and momentum.
 
Wisky's D won't be any more physical or sophisticated than Pitt showed against Iowa. I think most people are vastly underrating what Beathard and his offense did against that aggressive, ruthless Pitt defense. That experience puts Iowa in a great position to whup the Badgers, no matter what the Vegas line may end up being.
The same Pitt that gave up 37 to (FCS) Youngstown St ?
 
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I told myself if it was any higher than 7, I had to bet the Hawks. When I clicked on the "college" link on 5dimes, I saw 8 and had two thoughts go through my head:

1) Oh crap, that's not good if "Vegas" says 8
2) Time to bet the Hawks +8
 
That's why I would have guessed 5.

I believe it started 9 or 9.5. Has already gone Down.


This is correct. The objective of those that make livings by taking bets is not to know what the final score (or even the final margin of difference in score) will be. The idea is to stimulate betting activity. The 'market' generally will tell if a line has been set too high/low and those in control of betting lines adjust accordingly. It is only Monday. By later Thursday or early Friday we will know what the betting public thinks about this game.

It is Big Ten football at its finest. Two teams that mutually respect but do not care too much for each other. Strength versus strength. Can't wait for it to begin!
 
While the only game I have seen Pitt play this year was against Iowa, I would disagree. Pitt seems more physical to me but I would observe Wisconsin's defensive is more sophisticated. In the WI/IA series, it usually boils down to strength and momentum.

Wisconsin's D isn't more complicated than Pitt's. Both use a wide variety of blitzes and disguise coverages very well. What Wisconsin has that Pitt doesn't is some elite talent on that side of the ball (Schobert, Biegel, Caputo).
 
I know zip about the actual number crunching of setting a betting line.
As to feel, Hawks getting 7-8 seems about right.
 
A couple relatives of mine (big Cyclone fans) seem to think Iowa wins this game pretty handily, which in Iowa terms is by 10. As much as I'd like to see that I feel this one will come down to the right leg of one Marshall Koehn again. Just my Two Cents.
 
24-17 Wiskey. Just kills me to say it. It it were in Kinnick I would pick the exact opposite. Still betting on Hawks to cover though!
 
If we're being realistic... Wiscy is a better/more talented team than us and we are playing on the road. With that being said, there's a lot more that goes in to a game than just what is on paper. We have a true competitor in CJB. 8th best QB nationally (QBR wise) and makes plays when he needs to. These are the intangibles that give Vegas nightmares. Vegas is tough to beat but with this large of a spread I am comfortable putting money on the game. Turnovers, dropped passes, bad play calls are all human error that really can't be accounted for. Who would have guessed the Chiefs turn the ball over 5 times against the Broncos last weekend? You simply can't predict that. Good TEAMS find a way to win games and limit those errors. This is what it really comes down to and I truly believe Iowa has a very good TEAM this year. 27-24 Hawks
 
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