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Herky T Hawk

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This year hosted in Minneapolis at Target Center. Insert joke about bring your own Kevlar.

I took a look at buying all-session tickets for my family of four. Tickets are $75 each, so not too bad. Then you go to check out. $194.58 worth of fees. $6.18 for Handling, $112 for Facility, and $76.40 for Web Convenience. Basically a 65% increase in the ticket price to cover fees. Absolutely ridiculous. And it's even worse if you buy fewer tickets. A single all-session ticket has a 71% markup to cover fees.

How does this help out the women's game? There's no way I'm paying almost $500. $300 isn't great but at least is palatable. The tickets are general admission. I can walk up to the ticket office and pay $12 per seat or pre-order single session tickets starting tomorrow and sit anywhere I want if I get to the arena early enough.
 
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This year hosted in Minneapolis at Target Center. Insert joke about bring your own Kevlar.

I took a look at buying all-session tickets for my family of four. Tickets are $75 each, so not too bad. Then you go to check out. $194.58 worth of fees. $6.18 for Handling, $112 for Facility, and $76.40 for Web Convenience. Basically a 65% increase in the ticket price to cover fees. Absolutely ridiculous. And it's even worse if you buy fewer tickets. A single all-session ticket has a 71% markup to cover fees.

How does this help out the women's game? There's no way I'm paying almost $500. $300 isn't great but at least is palatable. The tickets are general admission. I can walk up to the ticket office and pay $12 per seat or pre-order single session tickets starting tomorrow and sit anywhere I want if I get to the arena early enough.


Are you sure you can walk up to the Target Center ticket office the day of the game and pay $12 per seat?

It does seem strange that they are general admission because (1) like you said, if you got there early enough, you can sit really close and (2) I wonder if it will be a tough ticket on the weekend, especially if Iowa is still alive. The possible semi final match ups on Saturday March 4 could be pretty decent: Indiana vs Ohio State/Michigan and Iowa vs Maryland.

I see at least 3 Options to Buy Tickets:

  • (1) Tickets are now on sale via AXS. Link to Purchase Tickets
  • (2) Tickets can also be purchased through the athletic ticket offices at the 14 B1G member institutions.
  • (3) Tickets will also be available through TicketSmarter (the official resale marketplace of the B1G Conference).

I went to the AXS site and found what you found out; the $75 ticket had $53 in fees added ($6 handling, $28 facility, $19 web convenience). A facility & web convenience fee? That's crazy. I guess the ticket buyers are being asked to help pay the rent to use Target Center for a few days.

Here's a link with more information on the Tournament and where you can buy tickets:








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This sounds pretty bad. The overhead charges are a lot more than when I bought the tickets for the first round NCAA tourney games played at Carver.
 
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There will be a lot of all seasons tickets available as teams get eliminated
 
This year hosted in Minneapolis at Target Center. Insert joke about bring your own Kevlar.

I took a look at buying all-session tickets for my family of four. Tickets are $75 each, so not too bad. Then you go to check out. $194.58 worth of fees. $6.18 for Handling, $112 for Facility, and $76.40 for Web Convenience. Basically a 65% increase in the ticket price to cover fees. Absolutely ridiculous. And it's even worse if you buy fewer tickets. A single all-session ticket has a 71% markup to cover fees.

How does this help out the women's game? There's no way I'm paying almost $500. $300 isn't great but at least is palatable. The tickets are general admission. I can walk up to the ticket office and pay $12 per seat or pre-order single session tickets starting tomorrow and sit anywhere I want if I get to the arena early enough.


See the bracket below. Iowa plays at 5:30 on Friday (Session 5) where tickets are $18 before fees. Maryland then plays around 8 pm in the final game of the evening. I thought that by skipping sessions 1-4 it might save some money. I was wrong.

Tickets are $20.00 before fees for both Session 6 (Sat, the Semi Finals) and Session 7 (Sun, the Championship game).

The fees, as you noted, are ridiculous and can sometimes double the ticket price.

For just Fri (Session 5):

$18.00 Ticket
$4.00 Facility Fee
$6.18 Handling fee
$7.98 Web convenience fee
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$36.16 for one ticket
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If you bought a 2nd ticket, you would pay $66.14 (you don't pay an extra $6.18 handling fee)

For your family of 4 on Friday night:

$72 tickets ($18x4)
$16.00 Facility Fee ($4x4)
$6.18 Handling fee (fixed amt)
$31.92 Web convenience fee ($7.98x4)
.......................................................
$126.10 TOTAL ($31.53/ticket)
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$141.30: cost of 4 tickets for Sat ($80 for 4 tix, $61.30 in fees)....$35.33/ticket
$141.30: cost of 4 tickets for Sun ($80 for 4 tix, $61.30 in fees)...$35.33/ticket


$408.70: Total Cost for 4 Tix for Fri eve, Sat & Sun



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The NBC affiliate in Minneapolis is reporting that tickets sales are 443% higher than last year.


To be clear, sales of a package covering all the games are outselling 2022 totals by 443% as of Monday.

Note below the discounts available. @Herky T Hawk

From the story linked at the end of this post:


What they're saying: Andrea Graham, co-executive director of this year's tournament, told Axios that hosting the event following the Women's Final Four last year will help solidify the Minneapolis/St Paul metro's reputation as "a mecca for women's basketball."

  • Tickets are "flying out the door," she added, with sales of a package covering all the games outselling 2022 totals by 443% as of Monday.

Details: Individual game tickets are $12 to $20, or $75 for a pass to the full tournament. College students get in free with a valid student ID, and discounts are available for families and seniors.

  • Related events, including a youth clinic and a panel on women in sports journalism, are scheduled throughout the week.

Of note: It's Minneapolis' first time hosting the tournament, which has been held in Indianapolis since 2015.

  • Both the men's and women's conference tournaments will be held in the Twin Cities next year.


 
And Minnesota became the first team to be eliminated from the Big Ten tournament. Northwestern the second. Will any Gopher students still be going?
 
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Whalen’s seat gotta be getting hot. Pretty much the worst possible way to end the season. Upset by a lower seed that you beat twice already on your own home court. Not to mention the FIRST to be eliminated.
 
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Whalen’s seat gotta be getting hot. Pretty much the worst possible way to end the season. Upset by a lower seed that you beat twice already on your own home court. Not to mention the FIRST to be eliminated.

Five years ago I thought she was gonna be a good hire and would be very successful. I thought she would be able to keep the instate talent (example: Paige Bueckers) largely because of her legendary status in Minnesota. She was a star in high school, at the University of Minnesota and professionally (won 4 WNBA titles with the Minnesota Lynx). She also won 2 Olympic gold medals. She's been inducted into the Naismith Hall of Fame. On April 29 she will be inducted into the Women's Basketball Hall of Fame.

But as a head coach? So far, so bad.

Her 5 year record at Minny:

21-11: 2018-2019 (6th in B1G)
16-15: 2019-2020 (11th in B1G)
8-13: 2020-2021 (9th in B1G)
15-18: 2021-2022 (9th in B1G)
11-19: 2022-2023 (12th in B1G)
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71-76 Overall
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Column from the Minneapolis Star Tribune:

Give Lindsay Whalen one more season to make a big jump, or it's time for a new direction

Gophers players looked completely befuddled by Penn State's first-half press, and that falls on the coach. If the team doesn't show dramatic improvement next year, it's time for a new direction.

MARCH 1, 2023 — 7:59PM

Lindsay2.jpg

Gophers coach Lindsay Whalen watched her team fall behind 21-3 at the beginning of its season-ending loss to Penn State on Wednesday at Target Center.


Chip Scoggins

Chip Scoggins
Minneapolis Star Tribune



The day that news surfaced in 2018 that Gophers women's basketball coach Marlene Stollings was bolting for Texas Tech, I made a public plea for athletic director Mark Coyle to consider an unconventional hire.

Call Lindsay Whalen, I screamed on social media. Make every reasonable attempt to hire the basketball legend, even though she had no coaching experience.

I believed the potential payoff was worth the risk.

It hasn't worked out that way to date.

Coyle, Whalen and the program have arrived at an inflection point. Another disappointing season ended with a whimper Wednesday, a 72-67 loss to Penn State in the first round of the Big Ten women's tournament at Target Center.

The Gophers committed 22 turnovers, trailed by as many as 18 points and never held a lead against a Penn State team that lost twice to the Gophers during the regular season and had only one victory since Jan. 22.

It was a bad loss to a lower-seeded team that played the final 12 minutes without its point guard after an injury. In the 30th game of Whalen's fifth season in charge, her players looked completely befuddled by Penn State's press in the first half.

That falls on the head coach.

Whalen's lack of coaching experience required patience from the start, but patience does not come in unlimited supply.

Year 6 should bring an ultimatum from her boss: Show significant improvement in results, or it's time for a new direction.

Not marginal improvement, either, but a jump that leaves no doubt that the program is in good hands and building toward consistent success.

The pushback from fans ready for a change right now grew more intense this season. Whalen deserves one more season with the nucleus of freshmen who gained valuable experience in the battles in Big Ten competition, especially Mara Braun, a star in the making. Allow Whalen and that group an opportunity to build on the foundation together.

But six years is ample time for any coach to provide tangible evidence of his or her coaching chops.

The Gophers have zero NCAA tournament appearances in Whalen's five seasons. They are 32-58 in the Big Ten. Their final rank in the conference standings in that span: sixth, 11th, ninth, ninth, 12th.

Making Whalen a first-time coach in a power conference always carried a high boom-or-bust inevitability. Women's basketball is not a revenue-generating sport at Minnesota, meaning Coyle assumed less risk to his department's financial spreadsheet if the move didn't pan out.

One common complaint recited on message boards and in newspaper comments sections is that Whalen has received more latitude from the administration — and media — than any coach not named Lindsay Whalen would have ever been granted.

Duh, of course she has. That was guaranteed the moment she accepted the job.

Whalen earned a longer grace period by virtue of her Hall of Fame playing career. She was a winner in high school. A winner in college. A winner as a pro. She belongs on the list of greatest athletes and winners the state of Minnesota has produced.

That kind of equity buys time and patience, especially for someone who had no experience in that job. The admiration for what Whalen accomplished as a player is such that there's probably not a person in this state who doesn't want Whalen to succeed as a coach, too.

Her team showed signs of improvement late in the season, but the loss to Penn State leaves a bad taste. While Whalen praised her team's competitive fight in erasing a large deficit to tie the game with less than a minute remaining, the sloppiness through three quarters cannot be ignored. And Penn State isn't exactly a heavyweight opponent.

The pressure on Whalen gets cranked up now. Her hiring five years ago generated big headlines and hope that she would provide the same magic touch as coach that she did as a fiery point guard. That has not happened so far, and time is running out.

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Chip Scoggins is a sports columnist and enterprise writer for the Minneapolis Star Tribune. He previously covered the Vikings, Gophers football, Wild, Wolves and high school sports in nearly 19 years at the paper.

Email: ascoggins@startribune.com
Phone: 612-673-4484
Twitter: @chipscoggins

 
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I’ll drive up Saturday assuming we win tomorrow night. Be fun to take my daughter to the games.
 
Five years ago I thought she was gonna be a good hire and would be very successful. I thought she would be able to keep the instate talent (example: Paige Bueckers) largely because of her legendary status in Minnesota. She was a star in high school, at the University of Minnesota and professionally (won 4 WNBA titles with the Minnesota Lynx). She also won 2 Olympic gold medals. She's been inducted into the Naismith Hall of Fame. On April 29 she will be inducted into the Women's Basketball Hall of Fame.

But as a head coach? So far, so bad.

Her 5 year record at Minny:

21-11: 2018-2019 (6th in B1G)
16-15: 2019-2020 (11th in B1G)
8-13: 2020-2021 (9th in B1G)
15-18: 2021-2022 (9th in B1G)
11-19: 2022-2023 (12th in B1G)
------------------------
71-76 Overall
===============
I know we aren't likely to have any room, but whether this year or next, if anyone leaves, I'd love to grab Braun / Battle / Heyer from the portal, in that order.
 
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Five years ago I thought she was gonna be a good hire and would be very successful. I thought she would be able to keep the instate talent (example: Paige Bueckers) largely because of her legendary status in Minnesota. She was a star in high school, at the University of Minnesota and professionally (won 4 WNBA titles with the Minnesota Lynx). She also won 2 Olympic gold medals. She's been inducted into the Naismith Hall of Fame. On April 29 she will be inducted into the Women's Basketball Hall of Fame.

But as a head coach? So far, so bad.

Her 5 year record at Minny:

21-11: 2018-2019 (6th in B1G)
16-15: 2019-2020 (11th in B1G)
8-13: 2020-2021 (9th in B1G)
15-18: 2021-2022 (9th in B1G)
11-19: 2022-2023 (12th in B1G)
------------------------
71-76 Overall
===============


Column from the Minneapolis Star Tribune:

Give Lindsay Whalen one more season to make a big jump, or it's time for a new direction

Gophers players looked completely befuddled by Penn State's first-half press, and that falls on the coach. If the team doesn't show dramatic improvement next year, it's time for a new direction.

MARCH 1, 2023 — 7:59PM

Lindsay2.jpg

Gophers coach Lindsay Whalen watched her team fall behind 21-3 at the beginning of its season-ending loss to Penn State on Wednesday at Target Center.


Chip Scoggins

Chip Scoggins
Minneapolis Star Tribune



The day that news surfaced in 2018 that Gophers women's basketball coach Marlene Stollings was bolting for Texas Tech, I made a public plea for athletic director Mark Coyle to consider an unconventional hire.

Call Lindsay Whalen, I screamed on social media. Make every reasonable attempt to hire the basketball legend, even though she had no coaching experience.

I believed the potential payoff was worth the risk.

It hasn't worked out that way to date.

Coyle, Whalen and the program have arrived at an inflection point. Another disappointing season ended with a whimper Wednesday, a 72-67 loss to Penn State in the first round of the Big Ten women's tournament at Target Center.

The Gophers committed 22 turnovers, trailed by as many as 18 points and never held a lead against a Penn State team that lost twice to the Gophers during the regular season and had only one victory since Jan. 22.

It was a bad loss to a lower-seeded team that played the final 12 minutes without its point guard after an injury. In the 30th game of Whalen's fifth season in charge, her players looked completely befuddled by Penn State's press in the first half.

That falls on the head coach.

Whalen's lack of coaching experience required patience from the start, but patience does not come in unlimited supply.

Year 6 should bring an ultimatum from her boss: Show significant improvement in results, or it's time for a new direction.

Not marginal improvement, either, but a jump that leaves no doubt that the program is in good hands and building toward consistent success.

The pushback from fans ready for a change right now grew more intense this season. Whalen deserves one more season with the nucleus of freshmen who gained valuable experience in the battles in Big Ten competition, especially Mara Braun, a star in the making. Allow Whalen and that group an opportunity to build on the foundation together.

But six years is ample time for any coach to provide tangible evidence of his or her coaching chops.

The Gophers have zero NCAA tournament appearances in Whalen's five seasons. They are 32-58 in the Big Ten. Their final rank in the conference standings in that span: sixth, 11th, ninth, ninth, 12th.

Making Whalen a first-time coach in a power conference always carried a high boom-or-bust inevitability. Women's basketball is not a revenue-generating sport at Minnesota, meaning Coyle assumed less risk to his department's financial spreadsheet if the move didn't pan out.

One common complaint recited on message boards and in newspaper comments sections is that Whalen has received more latitude from the administration — and media — than any coach not named Lindsay Whalen would have ever been granted.

Duh, of course she has. That was guaranteed the moment she accepted the job.

Whalen earned a longer grace period by virtue of her Hall of Fame playing career. She was a winner in high school. A winner in college. A winner as a pro. She belongs on the list of greatest athletes and winners the state of Minnesota has produced.

That kind of equity buys time and patience, especially for someone who had no experience in that job. The admiration for what Whalen accomplished as a player is such that there's probably not a person in this state who doesn't want Whalen to succeed as a coach, too.

Her team showed signs of improvement late in the season, but the loss to Penn State leaves a bad taste. While Whalen praised her team's competitive fight in erasing a large deficit to tie the game with less than a minute remaining, the sloppiness through three quarters cannot be ignored. And Penn State isn't exactly a heavyweight opponent.

The pressure on Whalen gets cranked up now. Her hiring five years ago generated big headlines and hope that she would provide the same magic touch as coach that she did as a fiery point guard. That has not happened so far, and time is running out.

.................................................................................

Chip Scoggins is a sports columnist and enterprise writer for the Minneapolis Star Tribune. He previously covered the Vikings, Gophers football, Wild, Wolves and high school sports in nearly 19 years at the paper.

Email: ascoggins@startribune.com
Phone: 612-673-4484
Twitter: @chipscoggins

I think it is a prime example that a great player doesn't always make a great coach. I think it is hard for some who have had that kind of success as a player to not be able to get the same from their players. In their mind they think, I was able to do this as a player, why can't you? Hasn't she lost a lot of players recently as well?
 
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I’ll drive up Saturday assuming we win tomorrow night. Be fun to take my daughter to the games.

Note from the story above that individual game tickets are $12 to $20 (or $75 for a pass to the full tournament). College students get in free with a valid student ID, and discounts are available for families and seniors.

Can you get these $12 tickets at the Target Center ticket window?
 
Note from the story above that individual game tickets are $12 to $20 (or $75 for a pass to the full tournament). College students get in free with a valid student ID, and discounts are available for families and seniors.

Can you get these $12 tickets at the Target Center ticket window?
Hope they don't charge the $5.92 per ticket web convenience fee for walk up sales.
 
Michigan State vs Nebraska a turnover fest so far. Michigan State just had three consecutive travels. Maybe the refs are paying attention now? :)
 
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Hope they don't charge the per ticket web convenience fee for walk up sales.

I wonder what tickets are still available, especially the $12 tickets

If you walk up to the Target Center ticket window, it sounds like you would only pay $16/ticket.


$12 ticket
$4 Facility Fee
...........................
$16/ticket

They might add a $6.18 Handling fee to the grand total.

But, like you said, there should not be a $7.98/ticket Web convenience fee
 
Note from the story above that individual game tickets are $12 to $20 (or $75 for a pass to the full tournament). College students get in free with a valid student ID, and discounts are available for families and seniors.

Can you get these $12 tickets at the Target Center ticket window?
I'm going to have fun showing my student id at the window trying to get free admission on Saturday as a 4O-something graduate student showing up with his wife and kids.
 
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Iowa might have had the better chance at a 1-seed next weekend if had to go through Maryland today and Indiana tomorrow, but hard to be mad that the Hawks get an 'easier' opponent tomorrow for the BTT-C, if still playing.
 
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Iowa might have had the better chance at a 1-seed next weekend if had to go through Maryland today and Indiana tomorrow, but hard to be mad that the Hawks get an 'easier' opponent tomorrow for the BTT-C, if still playing.
Maybe, but I don't think OSU is a significant drop off. Especially now that they are healthy again. OSU is a team that is probably going to get a significantly lower seed than they should get because of those injuries. Whoever draws them in the early rounds will be getting kind of screwed.

Let's just hope Iowa is hitting their shots today so tomorrow's game means something. One thing is for sure, if they don't win today they have zero chance of a 1 seed for the tournament.
 
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So I'm I in Minneapolis this weekend. What's the price for walk up tix to championship?
today was 10,000 tickets short of a sell out so it should not be a problem

If you walk up to the Target Center ticket window, it sounds like you could pay as low as $16/ticket ($12 + $4 facility fee). The highest ticket price is $24/ticket ($20 + $4 facility fee).

They might add a $6.18 Handling fee to your grand total.

Note that there are discounts available for families and seniors.

By walking up you avoid the $7.98/ticket web convenience fee
 
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