Woody put back and media

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

The refs have been letting teams play. I prefer it that way. I hate all the touch fouls.

That wasn't the case through the first 25-30 minutes of play......

During that whole ridiculous back-and-forth sequence of both teams jacking up shots, getting offensive rebounds and missing more shots on top of other sloppy play, not a single foul was called and neither coach bothered to spend a timeout. But as far as the officials were concerned, they got caught up in watching the game and "letting the players play" which is fine until the players start committing actual rules infractions. That's what the officials are there for. Not to "let the players play". But to enforce the rules of the game, or at least make sure that they're adhered to. Neither team was innocent in that stretch or a number of other times in the 2nd half when the officials decided to just "let the players play".

It pisses me off when the officials "swallow their whistles" in the final minutes of a game, and I do commend the refs for calling Clemmons on that 3-pt shot because a lot of times, that wouldn't be called, and as much as Temple fans want to complain, I guaran-damn-tee you if that exact same thing happened the other way and it was Temple that made the exact same kind of contact on an Iowa player's arm in that same situation.......there would be no call. That is not an opinion. There is no ref in America that would make that call for Iowa on that situation.

So to then have them swallow their whistles on Woodbury's putback was almost poetic irony. I don't know if you could find a crew that would call that push off on a last-second shot either. 99% of the time you'll never see a foul called in a situation like that even when a foul is committed. Does it stink for the team it happens to? Sure. But the refs were "letting the players play"....which is what you want after all, right?

 

[DavenportHawk228]

You can't call that in that situation. Yeah it was a shove, but honestly the way the game had been called it was apparent they were going to let them play.

WVU game tonight was just ugly. That's not basketball, they mug the opponents.

 

[UNIowaHawk]

The refs have been letting teams play. I prefer it that way. I hate all the touch fouls.

You just not have watched the WV/SFA game. I think both teams were in the double bonus with 14 minutes left in the 2nd half.

 

[IamHawkeye]

So you would have preferred the refs decide the game? If that foul had been called Temple would have been handed the win with a foul shot. I think Temple had a good game and battled but you can't rely on the refs to win the game. You gotta box out.

But would they? A radio expert, don't ask me who, i was just surfing on the way back from a hospital visit,. said the game would have gone into the 2nd overtime

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

That play NEVER gets called at the end of the game, and it wasn't getting called throughout the game, either way. The Temple player had inside position, but he was too far under the basket to get the rebound. Woody did a good job of keeping him pinned under the basket, and did give a little shove to get more room. At the end of a game, the aggressor almost always wins.

 

[H4wkfan4life]

"It's only a travel/foul/etc if it gets called"
OOPS, guess that only works when the blue bloods are playing?

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Yeah the guys on CBS were talking about it and they all agreed that it was a foul, but the coach from "wherever" said that does not get called in any game. Said if you call it and then Temple goes to the line for the WIN, that ref would of been stoned. I agree, you can't call it in that situation.

Personally the Temple kid did what Iowa's players do all the time. They have inside position and they think all I have to do is stand here and it will come to me. The kid even said himself, " I should of blocked out better" which I agree. Iowa players are notorious for just standing there thinking the ball will come to them. Boxing out has gone bye bye in the college game. If he gets a butt into Woody and backs him up, I guarantee he doesn't get that ball.

 

[DenverTurtle]

2 hand shove = touch?

If Woodbury had shoved the guy with 2 hands he'd have knocked him out of bounds.

 

[Packer54]

Would love to see JU play more aggressive down the stretch. Guess we are just not going to see it.

 

[DenverTurtle]

Watch the SF A / west Virginia game if you wanna see every rinky dink foul called....JC, 58 free throws?

WVU plays thug ball on D, fouling on pretty much every single play. They're similar to MSU that way though more physical. When tie refs let them play they're damn near impossible to beat but if the freedom of movement rule is enforced they can lose to inferior teams as we saw with SFA.

 

[codflyer]

It was sort of funny, because a few minutes earlier Woody had gotten shoved way harder in the back on a rebound attempt on the other end, pushing him into a temple player (decosey I think) who had gone up for the put-back and getting a foul called on Woody, giving temple the and-one...without that the game never goes to OT in the first place. So I guess we can do this all day.

Temple played really well...somebody had to win though. Glad it was us.

 

[Lone Clone]

Woodbury just became Temple's Pembrook Burrows!

Admit it, older guys, we still talk about PB with disdain!

Burrowes didn't shove. What was bizarre about that play was that Wedeking shot from what would be beyond the three-point arc today, and the rebound went straight down to Burrowes. 99 out of 100 times it would be a long rebound.

 

[Lone Clone]

Watch the SF A / west Virginia game if you wanna see every rinky dink foul called....JC, 58 free throws?

That's Huggins thugball: Grab, hack, hold and bump, and if the zebras don't call it, you are very, very tough to beat. Enforce the rules, and you lose in the first round of the NCAAs to a double-directional school. I would hope the Big XII officials got the message, but I am relatively certain they will not.

 

[gojojo]

No ref would ever call that foul. Ever. Yup, woody put his hands on him, but it happens several times a game with no call.

 

[mrcyfan]

I know one fanbase that's outraged over the final play, and it's not Temple's. Hint; they like to dress like Ronald McDonald.

Just for your information, I watched the replay a half dozen times and agree with the no-call. It's not like the Temple big man went flying out of bounds. Simply two guys fighting for position under the bucket, something that happens on just about every shot that goes up.
Woody is just lucky that it was Gesell shooting because that shot was about par of what to expect when the ball is in his hands as time winds down.
Not all Cyclone fans wear cardinal and gold tinted glasses all the time.

 

[BubsFinn]

If Woody could jump at all, he wouldn’t have had to shove the guy. I will happily accept the win.

 

[Tclone99]

No ref would ever call that foul. Ever. Yup, woody put his hands on him, but it happens several times a game with no call.

You're so wrong. You can't shove a guy in the back within any context. If that was allowed basketball games would become street fights. In the words of Walter Solbchak "this isn't Nam dude there are rules".

 

[hawkedoff]

The kid that Clemons fouled shouldn't have still been in the game. He fouled Mike every time he came up the court. That ridiculous series at mid court when Mike almost lost the ball because that kid was essentially tackling him should have been fouls 4 and 5. Not to mention all the other crap that player got away with on defense. How does temple fare with their best player fouls out the last 5 minutes? Because he should have been sitting

 

[EZ2BJZ]

You're so wrong. You can't shove a guy in the back within any context. If that was allowed basketball games would become street fights. In the words of Walter Solbchak "this isn't Nam dude there are rules".

Lol. Funny I just watched the Big Lebowski the other night.

I think the reality is it was a foul. And if the situation would have been reversed, there would be a major outcry from the Iowa fan base. With that said, there were probably many of those same type of fouls that occurred throughout the game that didn't get called. The one at the end of the game, however, will always get the attention.

 

[PhillyOwl96]

Villanova By 20!!!

 

[iahawkeyes17]

The kid that Clemons fouled shouldn't have still been in the game. He fouled Mike every time he came up the court. That ridiculous series at mid court when Mike almost lost the ball because that kid was essentially tackling him should have been fouls 4 and 5. Not to mention all the other crap that player got away with on defense. How does temple fare with their best player fouls out the last 5 minutes? Because he should have been sitting

This. 2x once around mid court he basically mugged Mike and a second time late around 5 minutes when Iowa got a defensive rebound. Not only was it an obvious foul but Iowa was in the bonus. Believe it would have been 7th team foul.

 

[nu2u]

Would love to see JU play more aggressive down the stretch. Guess we are just not going to see it.

Not just down the stretch. He needs to bring it from tip-off to final buzzer. Too often he settles for the long jumper, a step-back J, or fade away shot instead of taking it all the way to the hoop.

Uthoff could easily get to the line 3 or 4 more times every game if he would drive deeper every once in a while (see Aaron White). That would also make defenders loosen-up on him a little when he has the ball on the perimeter - opponents are now crowding him on the 3PT line. That's what I'm seeing. He is taking 24-25 foot shots now to compensate.

 

[HawkGem11]

What do you expect them to say? It was an egregious no call. It kind of takes away from the buzzer beater effect.

With that said, I hope the Iowa from the first 10 minutes shows up and beats Villanova.

No worse than dozens of other NO calls that game

 

[HawkGem11]

Since we r now recalling all the supposed missed calls....what about the clear hand slap by gessel near the end of the game where the ball was given back to Iowa? Iowa's fan base is a joke. U bitch about everything and don't appreciate anything.

Only joke around here little girl is you

 

[Suterman]

Every single game in the B1G has 50 plays where players are battling for position. If they called that foul in the B1G there would be 50-100 foul calls under the basket. A no call was the right call.

 

[Ronman]

Just for your information, I watched the replay a half dozen times and agree with the no-call. It's not like the Temple big man went flying out of bounds. Simply two guys fighting for position under the bucket, something that happens on just about every shot that goes up.
Woody is just lucky that it was Gesell shooting because that shot was about par of what to expect when the ball is in his hands as time winds down.
Not all Cyclone fans wear cardinal and gold tinted glasses all the time.

Yet, you couldn't resist taking a shot at our PG.. How clownish of you!

 

[basketballfan333]

Only joke around here little girl is you

Ur mom says hi.

 

[KFsdisciple]

I'm still shocked about the foul on Clemmons that gave Temple 3 free throws...and then the ice job on Jok. If Iowa lost I'm not sure the media would be making these points. I don't blame AC for trying to defend the 3...the refs very rarely actually call a foul in that situation. And to ice Jok on the free throws so they could check the monitor... that should have been done before the free throws not in-between .

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

The Revenge of Jim Bain over 25 years ago!!!!!!!

 

[moon291]

The refs could call a foul on practically every missed shot. It's rough under there. Just like in football, you could call holding on every play. It's part of the game.